Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2010-01-11 Thread HonorGod
Hi Mark , If i were to use decision tables outside eclipse what are the list of dependency jar i need to have in classpath? ..\lib\drools-ant-5.0.1.jar ; ..\lib\drools-api-5.0.1.jar ; ..\lib\drools-bam-5.0.1.jar ;. .\lib\drools-clips-5.0.1.jar ; ..\lib\drools-compiler-5.0.1.jar ;

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-29 Thread Scott Reed
Another change that occurred in parallel with the upgrade was responsible for the upgrade. MY apologies for the false alarm. I am now seeing a problem with Unable to load dialect ... JavaDialectConfiguration - it appears to be looking for the Eclipse JDT jar file. However, I have never required

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-29 Thread Edson Tirelli
Hi Scott, All I can say is I am glad to hear. :) Regarding your eclipse problem, please check 2 things: Drools plugin now supports multiple runtimes the same way that eclipse supports multiple JDKs. So, go to windows-preferences-drools-installed runtime to configure that. Also, make

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-29 Thread Scott Reed
Edson, I wasn't clear. I am getting this dialect error when I run the app outside Eclipse. It works great in Eclipse. Scott ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-29 Thread Mark Proctor
Scott Reed wrote: Edson, I wasn't clear. I am getting this dialect error when I run the app outside Eclipse. It works great in Eclipse. If you are outside of eclipse, then you need a compiler - either Janino or JDT, it's always been that way. Mark Scott

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-29 Thread Scott Reed
2009/5/29 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org Scott Reed wrote: Edson, I wasn't clear. I am getting this dialect error when I run the app outside Eclipse. It works great in Eclipse. If you are outside of eclipse, then you need a compiler - either Janino or JDT, it's always been that

[rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Scott Reed
I just upgraded our app from Drools 4 to 5 libraries. We just use the rules engine with DRL. The performance of the engine on our rulebase is unacceptably slow. I assume there is something we need to do to our rules or the way we are configuring the engine to fix this. I don't see anything in

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Ingomar Otter
During a few experiments I did with MVEL, I have found that 2.x actually performs slower than 1.x in our case. Maybe that is a starting point. Scott, do you have the possibility to profile your application using 4.x and using 5.x? That should reveal the bottlenecks and I am sure that

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Proctor
Scott Reed wrote: I just upgraded our app from Drools 4 to 5 libraries. We just use the rules engine with DRL. The performance of the engine on our rulebase is unacceptably slow. I assume there is something we need to do to our rules or the way we are configuring the engine to fix this. I

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Edson Tirelli
Scott, As others already mentioned, your e-mail does not help much. We need to know what is unacceptably slow. How much slower is that? 10%, 100%, 1000%? Also, we need a description of your use case: what kind of rules do you use, how many rules, how many facts, etc. Finally, we need a way

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Scott Reed
Edson, I figured I must have missed some docs explaining changes required for the upgrade. If I suspected this was an inherent problem with the 5.0 release I'd have supplied lots of info. I am inferring from the response that there are no known issues with 5.0 upgrade so I'll do my own

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Edson Tirelli
Indeed, at this point we are not aware of any performance problems. Of course all the features we added may add a bit of overhead, but in our tests that was completely offset by the improvements we made. The elimination of shadow facts by itself is a huge boost for use cases with lots of

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance

2009-05-28 Thread Scott Reed
Mark, I'm sorry I was unable to participate in pre-release testing. I didn't think we had an especially unusual application. It's under 100 rules with some simple evals and moderate processing on the consequence side. I'll try Ingomar's suggestion and get profiles and, if necessary, I'll