[rules-users] Deploy package across several Drools-Guvnor servers (unattended)

2013-04-15 Thread ciberg2
Hi,

I have a application that will be installed in several locations, and
because of connection constraints, each location will run its own
Drools-Guvnor server with a deployed package consisting of decision tables
and BPMN processes.

I want to make possible that when some asset is changed centrally, this
change can be deployed (or replicated) across all Drools servers.

I read about KnowledgeAgent to make hot deployments, but as far as I
understood someone has to still build the package in each of the servers.

Is it possible to do what I want? If yes please give me some tips on how to
do it.
If not what can I do to solve the deployment across multiple servers
problem?



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Re: [rules-users] How to count the number of events that happened in the last X minutes and fire if is greater than Y

2013-04-15 Thread Mauricio Salatino
Hi Adrian,

nice to see you here, you can do something like:

Number(intValue  Y ) from accumulate ( $e: MyEvent() over window:time(x
m), sum($e))




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 People,

 I'm new at Drools Fusion and I found a problem when I'm tryin to implement
 a Rule. I need to count the number of events that happened in the last X
 minutes, and fire the rule if the count is greater than Y.

 When I use window:time(Xm), each event slide the window, and does not
 help.

 ¿What should I do to solve my problem?

 Thx in advance.
 Regards.

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Re: [rules-users] How to count the number of events that happened in the last X minutes and fire if is greater than Y

2013-04-15 Thread Wolfgang Laun
count($e) rather than sum($e)

Also:
when
   accumulate( $e: MyEvent() over window:time(X m); $c: count( $e ); $c  Y
)
then

-W


-W


On 15 April 2013 19:17, Mauricio Salatino sala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adrian,

 nice to see you here, you can do something like:

 Number(intValue  Y ) from accumulate ( $e: MyEvent() over window:time(x
 m), sum($e))




 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Adrián Paredes 
 adri...@epidataconsulting.com wrote:

 People,

 I'm new at Drools Fusion and I found a problem when I'm tryin to
 implement a Rule. I need to count the number of events that happened in the
 last X minutes, and fire the rule if the count is greater than Y.

 When I use window:time(Xm), each event slide the window, and does not
 help.

 ¿What should I do to solve my problem?

 Thx in advance.
 Regards.

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Re: [rules-users] How to count the number of events that happened in the last X minutes and fire if is greater than Y

2013-04-15 Thread Adrián Paredes
Thank you Mauricio, Thank you Wolfgang!!

Indeed, it was the way I had solved, but my problem was in another place
(one of those silly mistakes). Thanks for your answers I could fix my other
mistake.

Thanks!!




2013/4/15 Wolfgang Laun wolfgang.l...@gmail.com

 count($e) rather than sum($e)

 Also:
 when
accumulate( $e: MyEvent() over window:time(X m); $c: count( $e ); $c 
 Y )
 then

 -W


 -W


 On 15 April 2013 19:17, Mauricio Salatino sala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Adrian,

 nice to see you here, you can do something like:

 Number(intValue  Y ) from accumulate ( $e: MyEvent() over window:time(x
 m), sum($e))




 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Adrián Paredes 
 adri...@epidataconsulting.com wrote:

 People,

 I'm new at Drools Fusion and I found a problem when I'm tryin to
 implement a Rule. I need to count the number of events that happened in the
 last X minutes, and fire the rule if the count is greater than Y.

 When I use window:time(Xm), each event slide the window, and does not
 help.

 ¿What should I do to solve my problem?

 Thx in advance.
 Regards.

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[rules-users] Drools Fusion: Finding an event that occuring after an event but not before it

2013-04-15 Thread burmanator
I am trying to track when an event object Foo with a distinguishing
identifier of Status. 
I want to try and identify a list of events when a Foo event with Status 2
happens after an event with Status 1 but at the same time a Status 1 has not
happened before.

fight now I've come up with:

$foo1 : Foo($status : Status)

not(Foo(Status == $status. this before $foo1))

$foos : ArrayList (size0) from collect ( Foo(Status != $status, this after
$foo1))

Part of the problem I am having, is that a Foo event with the same Status
can happen at the same timestamp. How do I get it to work so the rule only
triggers once for multiple events on the same timestamp?



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Re: [rules-users] Drools Fusion: Finding an event that occuring after an event but not before it

2013-04-15 Thread Wolfgang Laun
If there is no other attribute that distinguishes between the two
Foo objects at the same time and with the same status, then the
theory says that there is just one fact/event and you just happen
to have the data duplicated. Getting rid of the duplicate may be
one way of solving your problem.

Another approach would be to create a marker fact saying that you've
dealt with a Foo at a certain time, and check for its absence, both in
the rule you've (almost) shown.

-W

On 16/04/2013, burmanator alexbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am trying to track when an event object Foo with a distinguishing
 identifier of Status.
 I want to try and identify a list of events when a Foo event with Status 2
 happens after an event with Status 1 but at the same time a Status 1 has
 not
 happened before.

 fight now I've come up with:

 $foo1 : Foo($status : Status)

 not(Foo(Status == $status. this before $foo1))

 $foos : ArrayList (size0) from collect ( Foo(Status != $status, this after
 $foo1))

 Part of the problem I am having, is that a Foo event with the same Status
 can happen at the same timestamp. How do I get it to work so the rule only
 triggers once for multiple events on the same timestamp?



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Re: [rules-users] drools queries: strange dependency

2013-04-15 Thread Upali Kohomban

hi Davide,

Your summary is quite accurate about my case.

Thanks for the pointer, I will look in to hybrid chaining once I do a 
little investigation on why exactly the original problem occurred. I'm 
still having little issues with the 5.5.1 source compilation (for which 
your help worked flawlessly to get the source working, but there were 
test fails during the compilation. I will try myself to fix them before 
asking questions on that).


As i said, the bigger problem is with the rules that are transitive in 
nature. Let's say there is a is_in rule which is used to derive spacial 
relationships. For instance, a concrete example


is_in (uni_of_michigan, ann_arbor).
is_in(ann_arbor, MI).
is_in(MI, USA).
is_in(A, C) - is_in(A, B), is_in(B, C).

I want to deduce (in general course of reasoning) such stuff as 
is_in(uni_of_michigan, USA), but if I do it in the regular drools way, 
I'd end up with a load of unnecessary deductions. This is the biggest 
problem I have. If you want a more involved concrete example, say I 
define (for the sake of simplicity)


romantic(A) - scenic(A), secluded(A).
scenic(A) - next_to(A, B), scenic_artefact(B).
scenic_artefact(B) - lake(B) or waterfall(B) or ... and so on
secluded(A) -  [ situated further than N km from the nearest city ]

Now this last rule is where logic gives way to POJO and databases. It 
seems to me that this is the most sensible thing to do. Also, this is as 
far as I want to go at the moment. (Having known the non-boolean 
reasoning ability of drools from your mail, I can think of many ways I 
want to use it :) )


I looked into your profile and saw that you have a background on the 
ontologies. Especially what you have mentioned under Drools - Open 
Source Knowledge Integration and Reasoning Platform in your university 
profile seems quite intersting and seems to be exactly the things I 
might be needing in the near future. I was thinking that I'll have to 
implement non-boolean reasoning using some fuzzy toolkit, if it becomes 
available with drools I'll be really happy to give it a try.


If you have any material to share for further reading on your drools 
research, I'd be grateful.


Thanks,
Upali


On 15/04/2013 03:10, Davide Sottara wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, I would summarize your requirements as follows:
- you need some A-box reasoning, but you are fine with a rule-based 
approach

- the object-oriented integration Drools provides is quite convenient
- you have large data sets for which an opportunistic, 
query-oriented approach
would work better rather than a fully generative forward chaining 
approach


Drools hybrid-chaining approach could be very useful here - I'm not 
sure how
well documented it is, and how you are planning to use it, but it 
would be interesting
to see one of your rules - even stripped of the details you don't 
want to show -

to discuss the behaviour of the engine and its implications.

I had a use case apparently very similar to yours some time ago.. I'm 
working even
now on some experimental forms of rule/object/ontology integration. 
The trait
feature might be an alternative to the explicit addition of classes to 
objects .. it was

enhanced a few days ago to support updates and modifications.
If you have an ontology to begin with, you might also be interested in 
the ontology - class

conversion tool I'm working on even now

Davide



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