Re: [rules-users] Doubt regardging Drools-RETE

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
the benefit as it's an algorithm that will grow with your needs. Mark I hope learned people on rete and drools can help me on this.. 2010/11/11 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org On 11/11/2010 05:28, Harshit Bapna wrote: Hello everyone, 1

Re: [rules-users] Custom UI for Drools rules

2010-11-07 Thread Mark Proctor
On 08/11/2010 06:35, Balasenthil D wrote: Hi, Is it possible to create a custom UI to create/edit drools rules( instead of Drools Guvnor). Are there APIs that let you do it? For e.g., oracle provides a java API for create/edit rules. With this you can come up with your own UI, if you are

Re: [rules-users] Performance monitoring and hotspot detection in rules?

2010-11-07 Thread Mark Proctor
On 07/11/2010 21:59, H.C. wrote: Mark, Thanks for your reply. I figured 3 and 4 were currently possible but 1 and 2 puzzled me. it interates from root to tip repeatedly, so you can't easily determine how long it spends in each node Sorry, looks like my prior statement (#2) was misleading.

Re: [rules-users] Performance monitoring and hotspot detection in rules?

2010-11-06 Thread Mark Proctor
On 05/11/2010 20:52, H.C. wrote: I am trying to implement a performance monitor to find the most problematic rules in order to optimize performance. The main performance metrics I want to gather are: 1. How any times a rule's conditions have been evaluated 2. How long each rule's condition

Re: [rules-users] Marshalling Error : JBRULES-2453

2010-11-04 Thread Mark Proctor
On 04/11/2010 08:36, Michael Anstis wrote: If it's impossible to debug *with* a test case imagine how difficult it must be without one! hehe, yes meant without :) Mark ;-) On 4 November 2010 04:49, Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org wrote: On 03/11/2010

Re: [rules-users] Marshalling Error : JBRULES-2453

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Proctor
On 03/11/2010 15:01, drooRam wrote: bump you'll need to make a minimal self contained test that removes everything but what is necessary to show the problem, then attach it as a jira. The marshalling stuff is very cryptic and impossible to debug with a test case. Mark

Re: [rules-users] Starting resource change scanner and notifier in drools-server.

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Proctor
It won't detect changes on the classpath. Needs to be file or http. Mark On 03/11/2010 21:49, Jason Davidson wrote: Hello, Any tips on this? I'm seeing this same behavior using Drools 5.1.1: Spring Beans: !-- Drools : -- drools:resource-change-scannerid=scannerinterval=10/

Re: [rules-users] Integration of Drools with Hadoop

2010-10-30 Thread Mark Proctor
On 31/10/2010 05:35, Roger Smith wrote: We are working on a project to integrate Drools with Apache Hadoop, http://hadoop.apache.org/, and run into some road blocks. We would very much appreciate any suggestions/help from this list. We have an app where we call drools rule engine inside the

[rules-users] build and branches

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Proctor
We now have quite a few people working on different things and the build is breaking a lot and those breaking it are just leaving it broken. If you are doing feature development, can you please work in a branch and commit regularly there. Then sync up with trunk prior to a merge and make sure

Re: [rules-users] Using Drools and Spring in an OSGi environment

2010-10-20 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/10/2010 11:26, O.S. wrote: Has nobody tried to get Drools-Spring working with OSGi? Otherwise it would be enough for me if i could configure the Kbases, KSessions and so on with the Drools-Spring-Syntax (drools-spring-1.0.0.xsd). Is there something like a DroolsConfigurationHelper ? If

Re: [rules-users] [rules-dev] Rules Fest October 2010 and BRF 2010

2010-10-20 Thread Mark Proctor
Just a reminder that I and others of the core team are on conference at the moment, so apologies for lack of responsiveness. Mark On 12/10/2010 01:08, Mark Proctor wrote: Rules Fest is in full swing, http://rulesfest.org/html/home.html. Great attendance with around 100 people and great

[rules-users] Rules Fest October 2010

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Proctor
Rules Fest is in full swing, http://rulesfest.org/html/home.html. Great attendance with around 100 people and great food :) Myself, Edson and Davide are here. Davide did a great lunch time talk. Kris will be arriving on Wednesday to help with the BootCamp. It's been a lot of preparation last

[rules-users] University of Texas Austin

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Proctor
I'm looking for locations for the next USA based conference for febuary (end of febuary). http://blog.athico.com/2010/09/drools-boot-camps-2011-usa-and-emea.html I figured most people want somewhere warm and Austin is centrally located. I don't know about pricing but Austin University seems

Re: [rules-users] 5.1.1 import com.sun.tools.xjc

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Proctor
On 30/09/2010 16:19, Barry Kaplan wrote: It seems that KnowledgeBuilderFactory in api now has a dependency on these sun packages. However the pom declares them as provided. This seems to imply that drools will only be run in some kind of app-server?? I had to manually add a bunch of

Re: [rules-users] Chained Rules

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Proctor
On 06/05/2010 08:37, miguel machado wrote: there is the 'extends' feature.. i guess that's what you're looking for. rule xyz ... end rule abc extends xyz... ... end it's been recently talked about in this forum. _ miguel and rule flow. Mark On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:46 AM, djb

Re: [rules-users] Challenge! Using javassist and drools presents an issue with drl

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Proctor
On 29/04/2010 09:38, Swindells, Thomas wrote: Isn't the simplest solution just to add the imports at the start of the imported drl file? That is the users don't need to worry about writing the imports but before you feed the files into your code simply prepends the required imports. You

Re: [rules-users] Is RETE algo optimizes the performance in a stateless session.

2010-09-24 Thread Mark Proctor
On 24/09/2010 16:18, Leonardo Gomes wrote: Have a look here: http://www.drdobbs.com/184405218 here: http://blog.athico.com/2007/07/sequential-rete.html and here: http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov/guidelines.shtml The easy answer for your question is Yes ;-) It depends :) In general a stateless

Re: [rules-users] Ruleflow and events

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Proctor
On 22/09/2010 06:57, pieter wrote: I am using drools version 5.1.0.M1 5.1.1 is out now, please try that fitst. Thanks Pieter On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 07:38 +0200, pieter wrote: Hi, I have a foreach node with a composite node nested inside it. In the composite node I have an exception

[rules-users] DroolsjBPM Boot Camps 2011 USA and EMEA (Rules, Workflow, Event Processing and Ontologies)

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Proctor
We are looking into an end of February date to do the next week long Boot Camp, location to be decided - proposals for USA so far are Chicago, Austin and Miami. The EMEA one will be Berlin, probably overlapping with the 2011 JudCon. The last boot camp had a medical focus and was a huge

Re: [rules-users] SAML 2.0 support ?

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Proctor
On 22/09/2010 16:38, Lavabit wrote: Hi, le Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:03:17 +0200 Lavabitlangou...@lavabit.com a écrit : I would like to know if any of you as ever succesfully tested JBoss against a certified SAML 2.0 Identity Provider ? My question seems to be a bad one as I have no answer

Re: [rules-users] Drools Fusion High Availability

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Proctor
On 21/09/2010 13:02, Thomas Peuß wrote: Hello! We are thinking about using Drools Fusion 5.1 for Complex Event Processing. We have a prototype running that consumes events from a Tibco JMS server. Everything works as expected. My boss is now asking about HA features that are available. I

Re: [rules-users] drools vs jbpm

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Proctor
On 21/09/2010 18:07, woods5242-photogra...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, We need a rules engine for our project and I am trying to determine the main differences between Drools and JBPM. Can anyone on here provide a brief explanation maybe offering why one is better than the other, chances of them

Re: [rules-users] drools vs jbpm

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Proctor
von Mark Proctor Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 19:52 An: rules-users@lists.jboss.org Betreff: Re: [rules-users] drools vs jbpm On 21/09/2010 18:07, woods5242-photogra...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, We need a rules engine for our project and I am trying to determine the main differences

Re: [rules-users] Schema Error with Drools spring xsd

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Proctor
We do not maintain publicly accessible schemas. So take the xsds from the jar and host them somewhere locally and make the schemaLocation referenec that. Mark On 20/09/2010 15:35, Evert Penninckx wrote: Hi I had a similar problem. Since the drools jars contain the xsd I tried referring to

Re: [rules-users] Fwd: Early bird registration ENDS TODAY: Rules Fest 2010

2010-09-17 Thread Mark Proctor
On 17/09/2010 19:07, Abdel Dridi wrote: Edson, Would you please clarify what kind of exercise you guys are planing to do for the Drools Bootcamp? which level of Drools knowledge is required to attend the bootcamp? Is it worth it for people who have been using Drools for some time now? The

Re: [rules-users] URGENT - using lock-on-active or not

2010-09-16 Thread Mark Proctor
please don't title your subjects with URGENT. i'm sure everyone's email here is urgent. See netiquette here: http://www.jboss.org/drools/lists.html Mark On 16/09/2010 08:55, Yaniv Itzhaki wrote: Hi All, I have an urgent problem which I hope someone can explain it to me and how it can be

Re: [rules-users] Drools flow and BPEL (Drools 5.1)

2010-09-16 Thread Mark Proctor
On 16/09/2010 03:29, tim wrote: Do you mean that there isn't embedded BPEL (i.e Apache ODE) in Drools 5.1?If that's true, I'll have to find other ways to support BPEL in our product. I find there is a guvnor-BPEL-editor component in Drools 5.1.1 source code. Are you planning to provide a

Re: [rules-users] Drools dependencies

2010-09-15 Thread Mark Proctor
On 15/09/2010 11:00, Evert Penninckx wrote: Hello I'm using ant to compile and deploy a project which uses drools. I ran in some jar dependency problems and have a hard time understanding which packages are required for what and which dependent libs are really needed. I read the

Re: [rules-users] Drools flow and BPEL (Drools 5.1)

2010-09-15 Thread Mark Proctor
On 15/09/2010 07:46, tim wrote: Hello, I am studying how to integrate Drools 5.1 into our product. And we will need a BPEL engine embedded in Drools. I read from the Drools Flow User Guide that the Drools Flow engine is based on a generic process engine that allows the definition and

Re: [rules-users] Verify if an objects attribute exists

2010-09-14 Thread Mark Proctor
Pattern( field != null, eval( someFunc( field ) ) ) Mark On 14/09/2010 05:18, lnguyen wrote: Sorry here is some additional details...I hope I'm not making this sound more complicated than it really is but I am attempting to restrict access to view an account based on the logged in user.

Re: [rules-users] [rules-dev] Technical Rules

2010-09-14 Thread Mark Proctor
On 14/09/2010 21:17, Leonardo Gomes wrote: The thing is that, afaik, the DrlParser in itself doesn't give you something that you can use to generate the BRL XML, even for a well-behaved DRL. You would have to do some sort of model-to-model transformation that would have RuleModel as an

Re: [rules-users] [rules-dev] Hold the Beans!

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Proctor
08:35, Mark Proctor wrote: The first aspect is to allow the type and the property accessors to be dynamically defined declare Element @type( nodeName ) @property( get( $1 ) ) end Where $1 is the interpolation point for the passed property name. That would then allow access to Dom

Re: [rules-users] OWL (2 RL) reasoning support

2010-09-11 Thread Mark Proctor
On 11/09/2010 09:29, Semweb Developer wrote: Hi all, as far as I know, Drools does not support a built-in ruleset for reasoning on OWL (2 RL) in the form of triple-based rules. Is there any custom approach towards this field with a publicly available ruleset for Drools? Davide Sottara is

Re: [rules-users] Virtual box dev environment

2010-09-10 Thread Mark Proctor
On 09/09/2010 16:34, Leonardo Gomes wrote: Hi Guys, I'm trying to setup a drools developer environment and currently facing some issues with missing dependencies. Is it still worth to install the virtual box described here:

Re: [rules-users] What's the use of the RemoveIdentitiesOption?

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Proctor
On 08/09/2010 10:04, Wolfgang Laun wrote: I do understand both ways of the AssertBehaviorOption, but what's the function of the RemoveIdentitiesOption? (This one's not in Drools Expert, and Javadoc doesn't explain.) It stops self joins, although I'm not a fan of it really and it's off by

Re: [rules-users] JMS Messenger

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Proctor
On 08/09/2010 12:21, Tina Vießmann wrote: I've looked at the Drools Expert User Guide for version 5.0. There it's chapter 3.3.8.5 In Drools 5.1 we recommend you use Camel, as that abstracts all messaging. Mark On 7 September 2010 01:14, Tina Vießmann tviessm...@stud.hs-bremen.de

Re: [rules-users] JMS Messenger

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Mark Proctor: On 08/09/2010 12:21, Tina Vießmann wrote: I've looked at the Drools Expert User Guide for version 5.0. There it's chapter 3.3.8.5 In Drools 5.1 we recommend you use Camel, as that abstracts all messaging. Mark On 7 September 2010 01:14, Tina Vießmann tviessm...@stud.hs

[rules-users] Drools 5.1 Released

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Proctor
Flow. The afternoon will be an open floor where you can get time with us core developers for any questions, mentoring or assistance that you would like. Thanks Drools 5.1 wouldn't have been possible without the following people: Core: Mark Proctor Edson Tirelli Kris Verlaenen Toni Rikkola Geoffrey

Re: [rules-users] Shame on Progress and Savvion

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Proctor
We just made #4 on dzone, please keep the votes coming, let's see if we can make #1 http://www.dzone.com/links/progress_buy_a_bridge_in_brooklyn_savvion_brms_an.html http://www.dzone.com/links/progress_buy_a_bridge_in_brooklyn_savvion_brms_an.html Mark On 03/09/2010 01:47, Mark Proctor wrote

Re: [rules-users] what happened to . org.drools.util.ProviderLocator in drools 5.1.1??

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Proctor
On 03/09/2010 21:03, Jeff Parks wrote: Upgrading from 5.0 to 5.1.1, I can't seem to find this class anymore That's internal factory loading stuff, you probably shouldn't be using that anyway. In drools-api there is org.drools.util that has similar stuff. But all are for internal Drools

Re: [rules-users] Question about BPMN2 and Drools

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Proctor
On 03/09/2010 22:48, Cristiano Gavião wrote: Hi, I'm investigating the new Oryx editor... I'm delighted with it. It's a such nice work :-) and I would like to know how will Drools to address BPMN2 diagrams with more than one pool/ swimlanes. Something like this:

[rules-users] Shame on Progress and Savvion

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Proctor
Progress has recently ripped off the Drools community and has offered nothing in return, not even a curtesy nod of accreditation for our hard work.. 30% of that 49mill USD would go a long way to helping us invest in our tooling which would benefit all of us :) and maybe the Drools team can

Re: [rules-users] copyright violation issue on Drools

2010-09-01 Thread Mark Proctor
to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Mark PS. My advice is for you not to reply to this, and let this thread die here, nothing positive for you can be achieved. That's why I post this matter to this list. On Sep 1, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Mark Proctor wrote: Because

Re: [rules-users] Archived documentation for Drools 3?

2010-09-01 Thread Mark Proctor
On 01/09/2010 08:52, Alexandros Karypidis wrote: Hi all, The Drools web site only has the docs/tutorials/etc for version 4 onwards. I am looking for archived documentation of Drools version 3.x.y (I am new to Drools and need to work on a legacy application written with that version).

Re: [rules-users] Problem with importing DrlParser and XmlDumper classes.

2010-09-01 Thread Mark Proctor
On 01/09/2010 10:07, tom ska wrote: Hi, I have problem with importing and using DrlParser XmlDumper classes. In Eclipse I get thoose communicate: Discouraged access: The type DrlParser is not accessible due to restriction on required library [path hier]\drools-compiler.jar I googled this

[rules-users] Please ignore Yusuke Yamamoto do not reply (don't feed the troll)

2010-09-01 Thread Mark Proctor
It is unfortunate that in Open Source from time to time we have to deal with people of a more unstable nature, the inveritable troll. see http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Re-rules-users-copyright-violation-issue-on-Drools-td1397208.html#a1397208 Anyway please don't feed

Re: [rules-users] copyright violation issue on Drools

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Proctor
Yusuke, At the time of your contributions to Drools and other projects you were a Red Hat employee. The Red Hat legal department has determined that it has the right to copy, modify and distribute your contributions under the Apache License version 2.0 and considers this matter closed. If

[rules-users] Rules Fest and Drools Bootcamp San Jose Oct 2010

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Proctor
Time is ticking, so don't forget about the San Jose Rules Fest Oct 2010: http://rulesfest.org/html/home.html It's a 3 day event of talks followed by a one day Boot Camp with separate rooms for Jess, DroolsjBPM, Grind Works and Open Rules. You may attend the talks or the bootcamps or both:

Re: [rules-users] Drools v5.1.0 KnowledgeAgent using Spring Beans

2010-08-25 Thread Mark Proctor
On 25/08/2010 13:08, KiranP wrote: hi all, I am trying to configure Drools v5.1.0 [Guvnor + Spring 3.0 + Web App.(Tomcat)] i don't understand how can i do it in the simplest way please point to some examples or provide concept to go with thanks and regards, Sorry looks like that one

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Java EE

2010-08-25 Thread Mark Proctor
Let's continue this discussin on the dev mailing list, as it's definitely of interest: http://www.jboss.org/drools/lists.html Mark On 25/08/2010 03:50, ljnelson wrote: Hello; I've made a JCA resource adapter for Drools. I've had to hack quite a bit to get it so that the KnowledgeAgent- and

Re: [rules-users] Rileflow / Domain-specific processes / thread model

2010-08-25 Thread Mark Proctor
On 25/08/2010 13:38, jschmied wrote: Hi! When I define a ruleflow with parallel branches and have my own WorkItems in both branches do they get executed in parallel threads? no Mark Thanks juergen ___ rules-users mailing list

Re: [rules-users] Difference between Rule Base and Knowledge Base

2010-08-21 Thread Mark Proctor
rulebase is legacy, it's still there for backwards comptability. Mark On 21/08/2010 15:47, Swapnil Sawant wrote: Hi, I had a very basic doubt. 'Rule Base' and 'Knowledge Base' are two different concepts (may be from implementation point of view )? I got this doubt when I was going

Re: [rules-users] Migration from drools 5.0 to 5.1

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/08/2010 11:28, Swapnil Sawant wrote: Hi, Using drools 5.0 APIs, I have written a kind of framework component code using which I am able to achieve following functionalities successfully : - Running rules using changeset.xml - Executing workflow Example of framework component code

[rules-users] Left and Right Unlinking - Community Project Proposal

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Proctor
In an effort to help encourage those thinking of learning more about the internals of rule engines. I have made a document on implementating left and right unlinking. I describe the initial paper in terms relevant to Drools users, and then how that can be implemented in Drools and a series of

Re: [rules-users] Migration from drools 5.0 to 5.1

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Proctor
*KnowledgeAgentImpl *that's an internal class you should be sticking to the interfaces and only that which is in drools-api. Mark On 20/08/2010 17:34, Swapnil Sawant wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for your reply. I tried migrating rules from 5.0 to 5.1 at first. For this, I just replaced drools-core

Re: [rules-users] PLEASE HELP: Possible concurrency issue in Drools

2010-08-17 Thread Mark Proctor
On 18/08/2010 00:49, Norman C wrote: Hi All, I've posted on this topic twice and logged a JIRA ticket (https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2651) as well. I've received no responses and the bug hasn't been updated since I logged it. I just replied to the jira. I'm committing the fix now.

Re: [rules-users] Design of Rule Engine

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
On 13/08/2010 17:44, Manav wrote: Hi, I am using the 5.x version of Drools and currently new. I am currently evaluating Drools for an internal project . The product's impressive and the support is absolutely superb. To design a new Rule Engine using Drools as the base are there any

[rules-users] Don't forget RulesFest 2010

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Don't forget RuleFest 2010 this October. Edson, Kris and myself will be there. And the event includes a one day bootcamp for those wanting to discuss their projects with us or run over examples with us to hand. http://rulesfest.org/html/home.html Mark

Re: [rules-users] Drools Rule language resources Reg;

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Proctor
There is a wiki, but it's not that well maintained: http://community.jboss.org/wiki/JBossRules You can read any book on production rule systems and the examples should translate pretty well. So I'd recommend the Jess book and also the two Expert Systems books.

Re: [rules-users] CPU Spike creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession using OSGi

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Proctor
On 10/08/2010 17:22, David Conde wrote: Hi Pavel, I've changed it over to use a stateless session and I'm seeing the same behavior. I've done some debugging and it seems to be very slow loading up the SessionConfiguration due to all of the loading that happens in ChainedProperties. it

Re: [rules-users] CPU Spike creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession using OSGi

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Proctor
On 10/08/2010 19:53, David Conde wrote: Just to let people know, I've worked around this by only creating one SessionConfig object and caching it i.e StatelessKnowledgeSession ksession = kbase.newStatelessKnowledgeSession((KnowledgeSessionConfiguration)getSessionConfig());. What seemed to

Re: [rules-users] Missing Drools Pipeline

2010-08-09 Thread Mark Proctor
On 09/08/2010 16:20, Thorsten wrote: Hello out there, I just installed the Drools 5.1 final and have read the updated documentation of Expert and Fusion. I wonder what happend to the Pipeline-classes? It seems like they are no longer inside the packages. Do you have more information?

Re: [rules-users] drools 5.1 overview

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Proctor
On 05/08/2010 10:44, miguel machado wrote: Hi all, I just recently noticed that drools 5.1 is out and i'd like to congratulate the jboss team for this great milestone achievement. I've also noticed that there is separate documentation for this version on

Re: [rules-users] KnowledgeAgent and OSGI

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Proctor
The set of OSGi bundles dependencies can be used here: http://www.jboss.org/drools/downloads.html We test against spring: http://fisheye.jboss.org/browse/JBossRules/trunk/osgi-bundles/org.drools.osgi.test/src/test/java/org/drools/osgi/integrationtests/SimpleOsgiTest.java This is our project

Re: [rules-users] KnowledgeAgent and OSGI

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Proctor
optional dependencies that well. Mark [1] http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/trunk/osgi-bundles/org.drools.osgi.test/src/test/resources/boot-bundles.properties - Dave 2010/8/4 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org The set of OSGi bundles

[rules-users] 5.1.0

2010-07-31 Thread Mark Proctor
We haven't put it up on the official download site yet, just working on that at the moment. But here are the 5.1.0 artifacts: https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/4250/artifact/trunk/target/ Mark ___ rules-users mailing list

Re: [rules-users] StackOverflowError when serializing KnowledgeBase

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Proctor
On 27/07/2010 22:36, Andargor wrote: Second try, sorry for spamming. Does anyone have an idea why serialization of a large knowledge base fails with a stack error? It's to do with Java's poor ability to serialise linked lists: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2335

Re: [rules-users] 5.1.0 CR1: Drools Spring Configuration Changed?

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Proctor
use the kstore element. You already have the various jpa settings in spring as beans. So you can retrieve those and pass them as parameters to the kstore in java code; which follows exactly the same interface as JPAKnowledgeService. Mark On 28/07/2010 15:41, tolitius wrote: 1. If there is

Re: [rules-users] Drools Gunvor and Oryx integration

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Proctor
On 29/07/2010 04:05, Han Ming Low wrote: Hi, Just for information. In order for the Oryx integration to work, you need to install the oryx designer available from http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/contrib/designer/ I would add that the .war is provided by the Antoine Toulme,

Re: [rules-users] 5.1.0 CR1: Drools Spring Configuration Changed?

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Proctor
That bean isn't used any more. Spring has undergone a lot of improvements. All interaction with drools should be done via the custom namespace elements, see the release notes for more details

Re: [rules-users] 5.1.0 CR1: Drools Spring Configuration Changed?

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Proctor
On 26/07/2010 22:23, tolitius wrote: that is interesting: drools:work-item-handlers drools:work-item-handler name=handlername ref=handlerid / /drools:work-item-handlers I already implemented it via simpleutil:map, and have a team of ~ 50 developers already using it for

Re: [rules-users] Uploading models to Guvnor

2010-07-24 Thread Mark Proctor
normally this means someone uploaded a .jar of .java files, not .class. You need to compile the .java files in the .jar. Mark On 24/07/2010 22:56, Esteban Aliverti wrote: Could you please post your jar here? El jul 24, 2010 4:24 p.m., james corrigan jamescor...@gmail.com

Re: [rules-users] Decision Tree input?

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Proctor
On 23/07/2010 20:23, ramesh76 wrote: Hi, I am looking to implement Decision tree using Drools. I am looking for some information regarding the Drools Decision tree setup and implementation with some examples, any help with this is really appreciated Drools does not have out of the box

Re: [rules-users] Drools with spring

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Proctor
On 23/07/2010 02:50, sonyt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi thanks for reply Do I need drools server I am mainly using drools flow drools-server uses drools-spring and drools-camel. drools-spring can be used alone. Drools-server can just be used as an example project to get an idea of how it works,

Re: [rules-users] Drools and mvel

2010-07-21 Thread Mark Proctor
+61 4 2091 3987 W www.hyro.com E paul.edwa...@hyro.com From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor [mproc...@codehaus.org] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2010 1:01 a.m. To: Rules Users List

Re: [rules-users] Drools Planner or Drools Solver

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/07/2010 01:05, Nick Heudecker wrote: I'm confused as to the naming of Drools Solver. The docs all say Solver, but when I look for a current snapshot [1] and available downloads, I'm only seeing Planner. Which is it? Thanks for the clarification. [1]

Re: [rules-users] Improving Drools Memory Performance

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Proctor
wolfgang.l...@gmail.com mailto:wolfgang.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 July 2010 14:14, Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org wrote: You have many objects there that are not constrained; I have an inkling that the functions.*() are hiding just

Re: [rules-users] lock-on-active, why keeps evaluating?

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Proctor
The optimisation to disconnect the parts of the rete network that are currentnly not able to fire, due to ruleflow-group, has not been done. So it'll only stop the firing, not stop the evaluation. Any takers? Mark On 16/07/2010 20:39, mmarmol wrote: He guys, I am using the meta-data

Re: [rules-users] lock-on-active, why keeps evaluating?

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Proctor
On 16/07/2010 22:07, mmarmol wrote: The enabled meta-data works in the same way, rules get evaluated they just wont get executed. you can physically remove the rule if it's no longer needed and you think it's taking up evaluation space. Mark ___

Re: [rules-users] Improving Drools Memory Performance

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Proctor
for my common rule patterns in the future. Thanks again! Jevon [1]: http://www.jevon.org/wiki/Improving_Drools_Memory_Performance On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Wolfgang Laun wolfgang.l...@gmail.com mailto:wolfgang.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 July 2010 14:14, Mark

Re: [rules-users] Help: Web based console for editing BPMN2 in 5.1M2 or SNAPSHOT

2010-07-11 Thread Mark Proctor
Ming *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Proctor *Sent:* Monday, July 05, 2010 9:00 PM *To:* rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Subject:* Re: [rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Modify objects which are not part of the LHS

2010-07-10 Thread Mark Proctor
On 10/07/2010 23:17, davids wrote: I am new to the tool and using guvnor to post and test my rules. I have about 10 rules which are executed based on adding more facts to the WM. in order to trigger the relevant rules ,I am using a temp object which is updated by a Modify statement. Is

Re: [rules-users] Improving Drools Memory Performance

2010-07-09 Thread Mark Proctor
You have many objects there that are not constrained; if there are multiple versions of those objects you are going to get massive amounts of cross products. Think in terms of SQL, each pattern you add is like an SQL join. Mark On 09/07/2010 09:20, Jevon Wright wrote: Hi everyone, I am

Re: [rules-users] Help: Web based console for editing BPMN2 in 5.1M2 or SNAPSHOT

2010-07-05 Thread Mark Proctor
There is an additional WAR for oryx that must be installed first, kris should be able to provide more details on that. Mark On 05/07/2010 07:17, Low Han Ming NCS wrote: Hi, I saw on the blog post that there will be a browser base tool to edit BPMN2 processes in Guvnor 5.1.

Re: [rules-users] Arden Syntax support in Drools / Guvnor?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/07/2010 07:37, HarrySimons wrote: Hi, Wanted to know whether or not the Drools/Guvnor combo supports the Arden Syntax for knowledge coding... used in Medical Logic Modules (or, MLMs) and clinical decision support systems such as EGADSS. If no, then are there any external tools /

Re: [rules-users] Getting fix for JBRULES-2375

2010-07-01 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/07/2010 02:51, Norman C wrote: Hi All, I'm working with Drools Fusion and have run into the deadlock issue in https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2375 (Drools hangs when events are retracted). This bug indicates it is fixed in 5.1.0.CR1. How can I get this fix, or alternatively,

Re: [rules-users] jBPM and Drools Flow

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Proctor
Drools Flow will be incorporated into jBPM5. Mark On 18/06/2010 18:47, Jinsong wrote: I am interested in the question as well. Anybody can give us a answer? Best, Jinsong On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa htshoz...@gmail.com mailto:htshoz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With

Re: [rules-users] jBPM and Drools Flow

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Proctor
On 18/06/2010 22:38, Hitoshi Ozawa wrote: Will Drool Flow's API change? Should I wait until jBPM5 comes out to actually begin using it? I heard that jBPM5 will be a little bit of a wait. The namespace will change. The API may go under some minimal changes, but it'll be very close to what

[rules-users] Fwd: [drools-user] Write Drools Books - Packt Publishing.

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Proctor
Original Message Kshipra Singh kship...@packtpub.com Hello Everybody, I represent Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. We are planning to expand our range of Drools books and are currently inviting Drools experts interested in writing books for Packt. We

Re: [rules-users] Boolean logic fail?

2010-06-05 Thread Mark Proctor
'or' is a conditional element to be used between patterns. '||' is an infix operator to be used in field constraints inside of patterns. Mark On 05/06/2010 00:23, Matthew Runo wrote: Hello folks - We noticed something weird today, and was hopeing that someone here might be able to explain

Re: [rules-users] Using pipelines

2010-06-03 Thread Mark Proctor
Of *Mark Proctor *Sent:* 03 June 2010 07:28 *To:* rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Using pipelines On 02/06/2010 11:15, Swindells, Thomas wrote: I'm not trying to fire a particular rule, I'm trying to get the pattern matching inside the knowledge session to actually run, eg

Re: [rules-users] How can I use retract in action or exception handler?

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/06/2010 23:08, EugeneP wrote: Good afternoon How can I use retract in action or exception handler? For example, 0. I have a flow diagram; 1. in some node the fact Person( age == 10) is added to the working memory by 'insert'; 2. after some steps, the split node pass the control to

Re: [rules-users] Introspect Rules When condition

2010-05-28 Thread Mark Proctor
On 29/05/2010 01:13, Kinjal Khandhar wrote: Hello All, I am working on Drools Rules and need help on the below problem: In my .drl file say: *rule* *when* *Object1(..)* *Object2(..)* *then* * * *end;* Is there a way(Drools API or any method) in which I can scan through my

Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 04/03/2010 09:21, Swindells, Thomas wrote: From what Mark Proctor posted in another thread: Edson has just merged the Rete algorithm updates into trunk, we have one remaining issue with planner and after that we 5.1M2. If thins go well we should 5.1 final this month. M2

Re: [rules-users] Drools memory usage issue

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/03/2010 14:50, Shah, Malay wrote: Pavel, I don't want to profile my application, as I am sure that there is no memory leak happening either on the drools side or in my code, and I know that memory for the app is not enough. I am running my app on 10G memory with 75000 objects/facts

Re: [rules-users] Moving from Jrules to Drools a couple of Issues

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 26/05/2010 09:56, paulnnosh wrote: Hi Chaps, We currently use Jrules 5 and are looking at our options going forward. We are going to evaluate Drools alongside some other products. So far I like the look of Drools but there are a couple of things that are puzzling me... - In our Jrules

Re: [rules-users] Guvnor meant for business users?

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
I'd start with Decision Tables, these are the most natural metaphore for business users. You can use excel for Decision Tables, there is also the web based one but it is more limited. Mark On 20/05/2010 20:12, nxg912 wrote: Thanks for your message. Regarding the scenario, we were able to

Re: [rules-users] org.drools.reteoo.AlphaNode$AlphaMemory cannot be cast to org.drools.reteoo.BetaMemory

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/05/2010 17:09, Axelrod, Nelson wrote: Can anyone explain what this ConsequenceException means? Exception in thread main _org.drools.runtime.rule.ConsequenceException_: _java.lang.ClassCastException_: org.drools.reteoo.AlphaNode$AlphaMemory cannot be cast to

Re: [rules-users] 5.1M2 Issue: LeftTupleSinkUpdateAdapter onlys supports assertLeftTuple

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 13/05/2010 19:53, malkhafaji wrote: I will do that. I am just swamped right now with our production deployment and fixing all the issues I am having. Still b0rked? did you try M2 yet? http://www.jboss.org/drools/downloads.html Mark ___

Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
. Mark -Message d'origine- De : rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] De la part de Mark Proctor Envoyé : jeudi 27 mai 2010 11:22 À : rules-users@lists.jboss.org Objet : Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

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