Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
Mark Proctor schreef: On 04/03/2010 09:21, Swindells, Thomas wrote: From what Mark Proctor posted in another thread: Edson has just merged the Rete algorithm updates into trunk, we have one remaining issue with planner and after that we 5.1M2. If thins go well we

Re: [rules-users] Moving from Jrules to Drools a couple of Issues

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 27/05/2010 11:04, paulnnosh wrote: I Just need clarification on the injection of POJOs to give access to application services etc... I understand the fact that POJOs inserted into the working memory are direct references to the actual objects inserted by the calling application, that's

Re: [rules-users] Drools flow VS jBPM4

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Proctor
On 23/05/2010 16:02, HONG DENG wrote: Which one is more flexible and expansible? drools flow Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.1M2

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Proctor
, please test on your platform and submit any patches necessary to get it working. Mark With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet Mark Proctor schreef: On 21/05/2010 12:10, David Conde wrote: Hi, Can someone please give me an estimate as to when the 5.1M2 release will be available

Re: [rules-users] Call for Vote: Drools support in IntelliJ IDEA

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Proctor
On 22/05/2010 02:17, Ansgar Konermann wrote: On 22.05.2010 03:09, Mark Proctor wrote: We'd love to see it, but no one seems willing to do the work, and we don't have the resources to do this within the core team. So unless someone such as yourself picks this up, hint hint ;), it's

Re: [rules-users] latest build failing????

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Proctor
Hudson says the build is good, it did a clean build last night, you can get the artifacts here: https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/ If you continue to have problems, we will need a bit more help on debugging, as we don't have anything failing

Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.1M2

2010-05-21 Thread Mark Proctor
On 21/05/2010 12:10, David Conde wrote: Hi, Can someone please give me an estimate as to when the 5.1M2 release will be available in the maven repository. I'm waiting to get my hands on released versions of the OSGi bundles via maven. We tried to do it almost 2 weeks ago, but serious bugs

Re: [rules-users] Drools-Spring Schema location changed ????

2010-05-21 Thread Mark Proctor
we don't store any schemas on a web address. Mark On 21/05/2010 11:30, KiranP wrote: hello i wanted to use drools-spring available in snapshot version so i configured my pom respectively and pointed repository to http://snapshots.jboss.org/maven2 everything goes fine in a simple standalone

Re: [rules-users] Call for Vote: Drools support in IntelliJ IDEA

2010-05-21 Thread Mark Proctor
We'd love to see it, but no one seems willing to do the work, and we don't have the resources to do this within the core team. So unless someone such as yourself picks this up, hint hint ;), it's not going to happen :( Mark On 21/05/2010 22:41, Ansgar Konermann wrote: Hi everyone, I'm

Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.1 Persistence without JTA

2010-05-19 Thread Mark Proctor
On 19/05/2010 16:13, Pablo Nussembaum wrote: Hi Kiram, We are currently working, through the spring integration, on adding support for using processes without JTA. The only pending feature is the automatic rollback handling that JTA provides, that means that you *MUST* reload the session

Re: [rules-users] Entry-Points can cause NullPointerExceptionand/or no rule firing

2010-05-14 Thread Mark Proctor
Vitor, Please stop replying to posts with unrelated topics and just changing the title, it messes up the threaded view in most people's email app. See here for more details on netiquette: http://www.jboss.org/drools/lists.html Mark On 14/05/2010 15:51, Makewise - Vitor Rui Mendonça wrote:

[rules-users] IBM ZOS

2010-05-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Has anyone here had any experience of running both the Drools runtime engine and the the Guvnor BRMS on IBM's ZOS? Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] issue with 'forall'

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Proctor
This may be a bug, we are looking into it. Differential update greatly increases the complexity of our data structures, which now have to be maintained in specific order, and it can be very hard to find somewhere were we don't fix the order after an insert or an update. Mark On 12/05/2010

Re: [rules-users] 5.1M2 Issue: LeftTupleSinkUpdateAdapter onlys supports assertLeftTuple

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Proctor
LeftTupleSinkUpdateAdapter is only used when you add/remote rules, it seems strange it would be used when you call update. Can you make a minimal and isolated test case for this issue? Thanks Mark On 12/05/2010 21:25, malkhafaji wrote: Hello, Did anyone have an issue with the latest M2

Re: [rules-users] Parallelization

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Proctor
They are for simple CEP type applications, you won't see a benefit else where, possibly a slow down if you are doing more business type rules. Mark On 11/05/2010 09:40, djb wrote: Hi Drools squad, This is a follow-up to my previous speed-related post. By boss is still pushing to get 35ms

Re: [rules-users] Parallelization

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Proctor
On 11/05/2010 13:55, djb wrote: Hi Wolfgang, Ok, well I implemented my option #2, which has cut it down to 23ms, which is a good start. My timing is done by taking the time before, and after, and dividing by the number of claims processed. (and averaging over a few runs) I use one thread

Re: [rules-users] Any news on Drools 5.1

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Proctor
On 10/05/2010 19:08, Rohit Rai wrote: It has been around 2 months since this update. Do we have anything new? Is there some major issue with the release? Can't we release a M2 if we are not yet ready for beta or final release? M2 has been released, we just haven't announced it or put up

Re: [rules-users] Drools Classloader Leak?

2010-05-09 Thread Mark Proctor
Drools is a dynamic system, the different classloaders is to try and allow partial reloading of classes, without having to reload everything. If we had a single classloader, we would have to reload everything, for every change. Mark On 07/05/2010 22:49, Moe Alkhafaji wrote: Interesting. Is

Re: [rules-users] Insert Fact Speed bottleneck

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Proctor
On 05/05/2010 09:19, djb wrote: Hi Drools team, I wrote a Drools application for my company, which evaluates clinical claim processing rules. That is, it checks current medical claims against the patient's historical claims. It appears that 95% of the run time is dedicated to inserting

Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.1 M2 or final availability

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/04/2010 08:31, fmetral wrote: Hi All, Do you have availability date for 5.1 M2 or final? trunk is pretty much ready to go for M2, just needs a final review. The boot camp has got in the way a little. Mark Thanks in Advance Florent

Re: [rules-users] DROOLS Flow as a Manufacturing process execution engine - Noob questions about events and concurrency

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Proctor
On 09/04/2010 08:52, jeanjvr wrote: Salaboy, I put up a new simple diagram with red markers to show what I mean: http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q388/shooter_za/loop.jpg http://n3.nabble.com/file/n707815/loop.jpg I'm just looking at those flow diagrams. You may find some of that

Re: [rules-users] DROOLS Flow as a Manufacturing process execution engine - Noob questions about events and concurrency

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Proctor
On 09/04/2010 15:20, jeanjvr wrote: I managed to get my example working by: 1. Starting the process and then calling fireUntilHalt() solved my ignored event problem :D 2. Changing the Join type from discriminator to XOR solved my problem that actions in a loop only executed once (only got

Re: [rules-users] Drools and OSGi

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Proctor
On 14/04/2010 19:27, Wouter Van Isterdael wrote: I still seem to be having problems getting it working. The problem did not go away. I still get the same error. Would anyone know of a simple step-by-step tutorial for using Drools in a Felix OSGi environment? Preferrably within Eclipse and

[rules-users] Drools OSS Meeting (Reminder) 19th - 23rd of April now at the Hacienda Hotel (San Diego)

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Proctor
Talk James Taylor (Decision Management Solutions) Wed 9am Key Note : Smarter systems for uncertain times Mark Proctor (JBoss) Intro to Drools 5 Mark Proctor (JBoss) Rule Authoring Techniques Mark Proctor (JBoss) Spr

Re: [rules-users] Logging using JSR94 StatelessRuleSession

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Proctor
On 09/04/2010 20:32, madchen wrote: So the reason we're using JSR94 is because we're trying to integrate Drools with Spring to load up all the drl files upon startup and to specify the list of drls in the application context config xml file. use a changeset.xml We have spring integration

Re: [rules-users] Logging using JSR94 StatelessRuleSession

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Proctor
On 08/04/2010 23:33, madchen wrote: I set up the rule session basically like this: RuleServiceProvider ruleServiceProvider = RuleServiceProviderManager.getRuleServiceProvider(http://drools.org/;); RuleRuntime ruleRuntime = ruleServiceProvider.getRuleRuntime(); (StatelessRuleSession) session

Re: [rules-users] @Rete Experts: the finer meshes of matching

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Proctor
On 08/04/2010 19:56, Wolfgang Laun wrote: It's common Rete wisdom to order patterns by expected frequency of matches, in descending order. Does this also apply to constraints within a single pattern? For example, is it better to write, for a New York address Address( street == Broadway,

Re: [rules-users] BuildError: Unable to resolve ObjectType

2010-04-07 Thread Mark Proctor
On 07/04/2010 12:23, surabhi soni wrote: hi im new to use drools.can u help me out of this.I need one example so that i can understand and i want structure also like how many folders should be there which file should be placed in which folder. thanx in advanceits very urgent plz help me

[rules-users] Drools OSS Meeting 19th - 23rd of April now at the Hacienda Hotel (San Diego)

2010-03-30 Thread Mark Proctor
nteresting talks planned: Name Talk James Taylor (Decision Management Solutions) Wed 9am Key Note : Smarter systems for uncertain times Mark Proctor (JBoss) Intro to Drools 5 Mark Proctor (JBoss) Rule Authoring

[rules-users] Fosdem 50 minute introduction into Drools

2010-03-25 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2010/03/fosdem-50-minute-introduction-into.html ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Oryx exported BPMN not properly opened in Eclipse Drools.

2010-03-22 Thread Mark Proctor
kris is at eclipsecon at the moment, it might take a while for him to catch up with the mailing list. Mark 78On 22/03/2010 08:36, Robert wrote: Hi, my exported BPMN-File from the Oryx-Editor does not open properly in the Eclipse-Drools IDE. I set the BPMN-Skin and the Editor is actually

[rules-users] Drools Language and Engine Enhancement Ideas and Request for Help

2010-03-22 Thread Mark Proctor
We really need people's help on developing the expert language and engine, and there are still some seriously cool ideas to be done. I've started to put some wiki pages together that collates all our ideas. So take a look, see what interests you, or come and chat with us for help on a

[rules-users] April 19th Drools Meeting 2 day medical/healthcare exclusive, 3 day general topics

2010-03-18 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2010/03/april-19th-drools-meeting-2-day.html -- April 19th Drools Meeting 2 day medical/healthcare exclusive, 3 day general topics http://blog.athico.com/2010/03/april-19th-drools-meeting-2-day.html Posted by Mark Proctor Logistics What: Week

Re: [rules-users] XStream, Pipeline

2010-03-14 Thread Mark Proctor
On 11/03/2010 13:54, Bertrand Grottier wrote: XStream xstream = new XStream(); Transformer transformer = PipelineFactory.newXStreamFromXmlTransformer( xstream ); Do not create the XStream yourself, use the BatchExecutionHelper, as it populates XStream with the

Re: [rules-users] Any news on Drools 5.1

2010-03-03 Thread Mark Proctor
On 03/03/2010 15:49, Chuck Irvine wrote: I am planning on diving into a Drools based workflow related project pretty soon and have kind of been waiting for 5.1 to come out (or maybe the next milestone release). Any news on 5.1 availability? Thanks -Chuck Edson has just merged the Rete

Re: [rules-users] Trying to build Drools trunk / getting build failure

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Proctor
On 21/02/2010 21:52, Chuck Irvine wrote: I'm trying to build Drools from the trunk. I updated from svn about 10 minutes ago. My build command was: mvn -Declipse -Ddocumentation clean install -DlocalEclipseDrop=C:\tmp\drools\eclipse The result of my build is given below. I have two

[rules-users] design patterns/common problems

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Proctor
I've started to add some design patterns/common problems to a wiki page at codehaus. Please start adding more :) http://docs.codehaus.org/display/LOGICABYSS/Design+Patterns Current titles are: * Min or Max Values http://docs.codehaus.org/display/LOGICABYSS/Min+or+Max+Values * Policy

Re: [rules-users] Drools / JBoss Rules in the medical field

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Proctor
On 16/02/2010 01:07, Nathan Bell wrote: We are in the early stages of a project that will be using several facets of the Drools platform. Based on our current research and prototyping work we know we will use at least Drools Expert, and may end up using all four components. I'm new to this

Re: [rules-users] Open Source Healthcare Event (last week of March)

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/02/2010 18:42, Wing wrote: You talked about service frameworks, is this web services where we can call the rule- No cost. Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Open Source Healthcare Event (last week of March)

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 02/02/2010 18:42, Wing wrote: You talked about service frameworks, is this web services where we can call the rule- We are looking at Camel for services, so if you look at what Apache Camel provides it gives you an idea. Mark ___ rules-users

[rules-users] Open Source Healthcare Event (last week of March)

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2010/02/open-source-healthcare-event-last-week.html Last November I bloggged about the great news for collaboration on Drools between the US Navy and OSDE (Argentinian health care). This is with a focus of potentially enabling Drools as an important component for the

Re: [rules-users] Is there a limit to the size of a rule?

2010-01-29 Thread Mark Proctor
On 29/01/2010 21:47, Sesh wrote: True but it does not answer my question - is there a hard limit? the hard limit is set by the amount of memory in your machine. Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org

Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 26/01/2010 22:59, Pritham wrote: It's been 6 months since this post and only Milestone 1 has been released. Any idea when 5.1 final is being panned for? The noteworthyfeatures, fixes, spring integration and others look interesting. We've been waiting for an MVEL release for a few weeks

Re: [rules-users] Stateless Vs Stateful Sessions in Webtier

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Proctor
On 27/01/2010 13:09, Simon Thum wrote: Wolfgang Laun wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Simon Thumsimon.t...@gmx.de wrote: Personally, I look at it like: stateless - propositional logic stateful - first-order logic This is a false proposition ;-) 'not',

[rules-users] Drools Inference and Truth Maintenance for good rule design and maintenance

2010-01-25 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2010/01/drools-inference-and-truth-maintenance.html http://blog.athico.com/2009/11/what-is-inference-and-how-does-it.html Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org

Re: [rules-users] Stateless Vs Stateful Sessions in Webtier

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/01/2010 11:41, Simon Thum wrote: Pritam wrote: Drools says, for rules itself, it doesn't matter whether you use stateless or stateful ksession ... then why is that an entire set of metadata like grouping and ordering is ignored? As I understood it, a stateless session

[rules-users] Fwd: Author Drools Book-Packt Publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Seems there might be a 3rd packet book. any takers? :) Mark Original Message Subject:Author Drools Book-Packt Publishing Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:41:51 +0530 From: Sayama Waghu saya...@packtpub.com To: mproc...@codehaus.org Hi , I’m writing to you for

Re: [rules-users] Fwd: Author Drools Book-Packt Publishing

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Sayamaw, I've forward your email to the Drools user mailing list, could you provide more details? Mark On 13/01/2010 13:03, Nicolas Héron wrote: Hello to all, for when is this book intended ? 2010/1/13 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org Seems

Re: [rules-users] Drools in jBPM

2009-12-30 Thread Mark Proctor
Have you tried using Drools Flow instead? Mark On 30/12/2009 16:49, fraction8 wrote: I have problem in using drools in simple jBPM application. Every thing works fine while it is runs under JUNIT but when I export it to jBPM i got exception org.jboss.resteasy.spi.UnhandledException:

Re: [rules-users] Compile Challenges December 20, 2009

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20/12/2009 16:59, Pete Carapetyan wrote: It's a little bit under protest that I'm submitting this error, because it kind of creeps me out that I have to compile all drools projects from root just to get drools planner samples to compile in my IDE, but Geoffrey asked - and I am highly

Re: [rules-users] Sequential mode help!

2009-12-05 Thread Mark Proctor
Torfox wrote: Ross H wrote: You might need to think about how the rules engine does it job. The first part is setting up the network to match your conditions, the second is then executing the consequences of those matched facts. What your seeing here is the first part finding nulls. So you

Re: [rules-users] Sequential mode help!

2009-12-05 Thread Mark Proctor
Torfox wrote: Mark Proctor wrote: It seems I have misunderstood the documentation- the sequential mode (https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-expert/html_single/index.html#d0e1809) 3.3.7.1: Order the Rules by salience

Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Proctor
http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns Mark Ross H wrote: I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider myself a newbie, although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement solutions, for the experts this is probably second nature. Whilst the Drools

Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Proctor
Wolfgang Laun wrote: 2009/12/3 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns This link is OK, but from there on, * some point to An article with that name does not exist. It may have been renamed or deleted

Re: [rules-users] Drool Rule Error with or not condition

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Proctor
...@lists.jboss.org mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Proctor *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:56 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Drool Rule

Re: [rules-users] Drool Rule Error with or not condition

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Proctor
contribution. Mark Thanks Malay Shah *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Proctor *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:44 PM *To:* Rules Users List

Re: [rules-users] MVEL wows: what does importInjectionRequired mean?

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Proctor
Barry Kaplan wrote: Oh boy, what a ride. In my real code the two variables are called DeviceOperatingStateModel and DeviceUtilizationStateModel. Just as an experiment I renamed the second to aa -- low and behold the variable was resolved. Then I changed to DeviceUtilizationStateModelx and

Re: [rules-users] Drool Rule Error with or not condition

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Proctor
You are binding the result of the 'or' to EtsExecutionOrderXref_core00 as the second part is a 'not' which returns nothing, how would it be bound to? Shah, Malay wrote: Hi All, I have the following drool rule that has or not under Entity Block. Basically, the rule tries to check if there

[rules-users] nabble forums updated

2009-11-30 Thread Mark Proctor
We are now available on the new nabble forums, which allows people to register info about themselves and images :) I've already put my imagine up :) http://n3.nabble.com/Drools-Dev-f62260.html http://n3.nabble.com/Drools-User-f47000.html Mark ___

Re: [rules-users] StatefulKnowledgeSession Vs StatefulSession

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Proctor
DeepakA wrote: I used a KnowledgeBuilder ro read the resources (DSL DSLR files) Then created a KnowledgeBase and created a StatefulKnowledgeSession out of the KnowledgeBase. The StatefulKnowledgeSession was used to start the process and fire all rules. Then I realized I was not able to

Re: [rules-users] dynamic temporal parameters

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Proctor
Ming Fang wrote: Is it possible to make temporal parameters dynamic by using bound variables? Example: EventA( this after[ $later ] $eventB) Currently, no. Mark --ming ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org

Re: [rules-users] dynamic temporal parameters

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Proctor
Ming Fang wrote: Mark, Are there plans to support this in the future? Should I submit a Jira? There are plans, it's just a matter of time. As of yet, there are no community contributions in this cep area, so it's slow progress :( Mark --Ming On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Mark Proctor

Re: [rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-11 Thread Mark Proctor
Wolfgang Laun wrote: 2009/11/11 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Wolfgang Laun wrote: And, perhaps, think about adding (relatively) simple things like permitting, in DRL import static ...; you can already do this, but we call it import function. We just haven't done the mapping

Re: [rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
not know the how someone is an adult, they have just declaratively been told that they are. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org wrote: Just published this, where I'm trying to explain good rule design in terms more familiar to software developers. http

Re: [rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
...@gmail.com wrote: I think I missed something on that post. Just posted a reply. Cheers, Leo. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org wrote: Just published this, where I'm trying to explain good rule design in terms more familiar to software developers. http

Re: [rules-users] MVEL and Maps

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
create declared types and then use a transformation tool to marshal those maps into the internal type declarations. You can look at the pipeline's jaxb and xstream for examples of how this works. Mark Leonardo Gomes wrote: Hello, I'm feeding my working memory with Maps (unfortunately, this

Re: [rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
Wolfgang Laun wrote: 2009/11/10 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Wolfgang Laun wrote: It is, however, very desirable to be able to write LHS in a more structured way, not being forced to either repeat CEs or create additional facts establishing secondary properties (such as isAdult

Re: [rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Proctor
Wolfgang Laun wrote: 2009/11/11 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Wolfgang Laun wrote: 2009/11/10 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Wolfgang Laun wrote: It is, however, very desirable to be able to write LHS in a more structured way, not being forced to either repeat CEs or create

[rules-users] What is inference and how does it facilitate good rule design and maintenance

2009-11-09 Thread Mark Proctor
Just published this, where I'm trying to explain good rule design in terms more familiar to software developers. http://blog.athico.com/2009/11/what-is-inference-and-how-does-it.html Let me know what you think, and hopefully people have other ideas they can add back in. Mark

Re: [rules-users] JTA question

2009-10-29 Thread Mark Proctor
? Yes i'd look at trying to build an interface that can be set as a strategy for callback handling. Mark Allen *From:* Mark Proctor [mailto:mproc...@codehaus.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:12 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Cc:* Allen Day *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] JTA

Re: [rules-users] JTA question

2009-10-28 Thread Mark Proctor
Kris Verlaenen wrote: Allen, We selected JPA and JTA because they appear to be the standards for persistence and transaction currently. When you say incompatible, do you mean that the WebSphere transaction manager isn't JTA compliant, that we are using JTA features that WebSphere does not

Re: [rules-users] JDT, JCI and Janino

2009-10-21 Thread Mark Proctor
Leonardo Gomes wrote: Hi Guys, I was wondering why am I limited to JDT and Janino compiler (using Drools 4.0.7)? Using JCI I would theoretically be able to plug another compiler (javac?), wouldn't I? Yes in theory other compilers could be used, we just haven't done the work to make those

[rules-users] III Drools Boot Camp and ORF 2009

2009-10-21 Thread Mark Proctor
Posted by Edson Tirelli http://blog.athico.com/2009/10/iii-drools-boot-camp-and-orf-2009.html Just a friendly reminder, the III Drools Boot Camp and the October Rules Fest 2009 http://www.octoberrulesfest.org/ in Dallas start this Sunday, October 25th. If you didn't signed yet, there might

Re: [rules-users] Drool 5 API and Agenda Listeners

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Proctor
SPAAARKY21 wrote: I'm basically writing a debugging tool that allows developers to step through the rule engine itself. In a sense, I'm mimicking the way Jess' developers rely on the (all-agenda) and (run 1) functions, but in a graphic way as opposed to command line functions. Inside of

[rules-users] Possible London Drools Boot Camp for October

2009-08-24 Thread Mark Proctor
The San Francisco Boot Camp http://blog.athico.com/2009/03/drools-boot-camp-san-francisco-june.html was a great success, with a fantastic turnout http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/DroolsBootCampSanFranciscoJune2009. If I got enough names I could be tempted to do a London based event at the

Re: [rules-users] Using Drools for modeling with rule-driven agents

2009-08-22 Thread Mark Proctor
Russ Abbott wrote: Hi, I'm interested in developing (if it doesn't already exist) and then using a framework for agent-based modeling in which the agents are rule driven. An important feature is that the agents and their rules must be dyanically manipulable. That is, both the agents and the

Re: [rules-users] Maps in Drools

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Proctor
André Thieme wrote: Edson Tirelli schrieb: ooops... correct version: when Map( this[type] == Point, $x : this[x] ) Map( this[type] == Circle, this[x] == $x ) then end We default to MVEL, because it's simple and already contains everything we need for expression

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Proctor
André Thieme wrote: Mark Proctor schrieb: André Thieme wrote: Mark Proctor schrieb: Map( this['c'] == 206 ) That should work, we do support MVEL syntax for maps and arrays - we just don't suppor method calls, yet. Hello Mark. I just tested it and it indeed

Re: [rules-users] Drrols 5 Expert -- Sequential vs Inference

2009-08-17 Thread Mark Proctor
Just stick with standard inference mode, until you reach a problem (which is unlikely), you only gain any real performance benefit from sequantiel mode for large numbers of facts and rules. Unless you rule authors have a problem deal with inference mode, then obviously you need to just use

Re: [rules-users] Can a rule be part of different rule flow groups

2009-08-16 Thread Mark Proctor
Marc Dzaebel wrote: surya_n2007 wrote: Can a rule be part of different rule flow groups. Is it possible as per below example a rule can be part of RFG1,RFG2.Please explain how we can share rules using version 4.0.7 and rule flows are used in our project. rule GoodBye ruleflow-group RFG1

Re: [rules-users] Why is a flat object recommended?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Java pojo's nested fields is just a weak way to represent relations between objects. If you want to exploit those properly in a rule engine, best to use real relations. Mark Libor Nenadál wrote: Mark Proctor wrote: We can exploit cartesian products and indexing for == constraints. If its

Re: [rules-users] OSGI, classloading, and imports in KnowledgeBuilder

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
We'd really like to improve out OSGi friendlyness. From getting Drools to work perfectly as an OSGi service, to getting our build system to publish all the necessary bundles. But we need people in the commnity to help us, you know where to find us if you want to help out, as we have so much

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
André Thieme wrote: Mark Proctor schrieb: Map( this['c'] == 206 ) That should work, we do support MVEL syntax for maps and arrays - we just don't suppor method calls, yet. Hello Mark. I just tested it and it indeed works for me. Although as I understand it, this will be compiled

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Proctor
Map( this['c'] == 206 ) That should work, we do support MVEL syntax for maps and arrays - we just don't suppor method calls, yet. Mark André Thieme wrote: My previous mail did not really have any resonance, which is probably due to the fact that I put the word Clojure into the subject. Some

[rules-users] Do you love to play Magic The Gathering? (Renton, WA) (Job Posting)

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2009/08/do-you-love-to-play-magic-gathering.html This came up in my google alerts today, and applying Drools to computer games is something I've always wanted to see happen :) If anyone gets the contract, you can be sure the Drools team will be available to you for

Re: [rules-users] Drools fusion query

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Proctor
Justin King wrote: Hi, My names Justin King, I'm a part of a research project at Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne, Australia. my question is in regards to the new Drools and more specifically fusion. I'm having trouble determining whether Fusion might fulfill

Re: [rules-users] Templates Documented as Experimental from Community, not from Red Hat

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Proctor
Ken Archer wrote: The jboss.org documentation describes rule templates as an experimental feature. In particular, the API is subject to change. However, the Red Hat documentation does not caveat rule templates as experimental in any way. Are templates (which are available in other BRMSs)

Re: [rules-users] Upgrading to Drools 5, but continuing with old API

2009-07-20 Thread Mark Proctor
Sobhana wrote: hi, We are using Drools 4.0.7 at present and looking to move to Drools 5.0. How long is the old API expected to be supported? This will help us plan by when we'll need to refactor our code to use the new APIs. Depends what you mean. If you mean will each new version of

Re: [rules-users] RuleFlow: custom nodes

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Proctor
Clandes Tino wrote: I am starting to evaluate RuleFlow. I would have one question: is it possible with eclipse designer to create custom node, and save its definition somehow, so that it becomes available in component panel, by some import, or update mechanism? If it is, how this can be

Re: [rules-users] Question regarding Release 5.1

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Proctor
McDonald, Daniel wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a roadmap for the next Drools release, an anticipated, forecast, or suspected date, for Release 5.1? Please see my reply from the 10th of July: http://www.mail-archive.com/rules-users@lists.jboss.org/msg09444.html Thank you,

Re: [rules-users] StatefulKnowledgeSession leaves threads running

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Proctor
Rafael Ribeiro wrote: Hi all, I've downloaded Drools fusion sample and started to make some changes to the code (first of all wipe out the UI so I can test it easier). I tried to get to a minimal set so I can run a console main class and see what happens but I am facing a strange

Re: [rules-users] Default Sequential Mode Order in Decision Table

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Proctor
bhavesh devashraye wrote: As per the JBoss Project Documentation it is clear that if we set SEQUENTIAL = true then it will going to execute rules in Top to Down order but what if we make this flag false and even not set this field at all? if SEQUENTIAL = false. Will it confirm Bottom to

[rules-users] Drools User Group Meeting - London 17th of July

2009-07-13 Thread Mark Proctor
and it will focus on open source business rules management system and JBoss BRMS. Presentations include: * BRMS Platform 5 Key Note - Mark Proctor, Worldwide JBoss Rules Lead /State of the Union, Future State/ * BRMS Platform 5 Interactive - Graham Gear, JBoss Solutions Architect

Re: [rules-users] Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date

2009-07-10 Thread Mark Proctor
McDonald, Daniel wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there is a planned release date for Release 5.1? end of this month, beginning of next. I high level overview, nothing concrete, is probably something like: BPM Process Console (embedded in Guvnor) BPMN2 (subset of) as default skin + extensions

Re: [rules-users] WebService invocation from Drools Flow

2009-07-10 Thread Mark Proctor
bdoshi wrote: Hi, We have situation where we would like to invoke webservice call from our process flow. Is there out of box component like email, log, WS-HumanTask etc. for invoking webservice? Seems like we have to make use of WorkItem and implement within WorkItemHandler. Is that the

Re: [rules-users] creating workflow via the web interface

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Alexandre Russel wrote: 2009/7/8 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Alexandre Russel wrote: Hi, is creating workflow with guvnor planned in the near future ? Where can I find an updated roadmap ? Something is being worked on, we are continue to explore gwt-diagrams and also now

Re: [rules-users] Unable to load dialect 'org.drools.rule.builder.dialect.java.JavaDialectConfiguration:

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Proctor
You have not setup your classpath correctly, this question has been asked and answered dozens of times. Try using a mailing list archive search tool, such as gmane or nabble, to find previous answers. Mark pardeep.ru...@lntinfotech.com wrote: Hi, I am newbie to drools. I am facing the below

Re: Re[rules-users] gistering ruleflow within a .DRL-File

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Proctor
skasab2s wrote: Hi guys, does anyone know if it is possible to register a ruleflow-file within my .DRL-File? Or should I always do this using Java-Code? You can use a changeset.xml if you don't want to programmaticaly specify it. We do not allow direct linking from one file to another,

Re: [rules-users] Persistence and mina human task handling

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Can you open a JIRA for this, and we'll make sure it's done in the next few weeks: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES thanks Mark Balázs Molnár wrote: Hello, I tried to setup a sample standalone hello application that attempts to run a process involving human tasks. Main components

Re: [rules-users] Un subscription Request

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Mohamed Riyaz wrote: Hi, Kindly unsubscribe me from rules-users mailing list. The list is automated, you can unsubscribe yourself. https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Regards, Riyaz

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