Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 09:33:34AM -0700, Aaron Turon wrote: As Diggory said, Mozilla has sponsored development but does not own the project. However, Mozilla does own the trademark for Rust on behalf of the core team. The core team has been actively hammering out some guidelines about exactly what this thread is discussing -- when it's appropriate to use the Rust logo/trademarks in association with a commercial product -- that we hope to make public very soon. But in the meantime, would you consider somehow changing the site to appear less official, perhaps by adding Unofficial prominently on the site as was earlier suggested? Happily just changed the logo to Ferris The Crab, courtesy of Karen Rustad. The intention was never to be or mimic an official channel. Apologies if it ever came out that way. It's of course fine to create your own mailing lists, but our discourse forums are currently the official place for open-ended discussion. That's totally fine but I honestly think that separate mailing lists per locality would serve the community better. That's my entire rationale for building Rustaceans.com - I'm scratching my own itch, trying to follow the example of what the Perl Monger's user groups have done to build Perl's great community. At the moment the Discourse forum is flat with only four categories. Finding and organising a local group is getting lost in between the sea of people looking for help with Rust. There's too much noise-to-signal happening. I don't thing anyone can disagree with me here. Other's will say that Meetup.com fills this gap. However if you have ever tried to have a conversation within it's comments, you will find they are next to useless. Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
I hope that was in jest - rustaceans.com has only been live for 9 hours. Uh oh! I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole thread and that's what I get, being a fool! :) ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
I'd be wary of some of the lists, such as rust-core, rust-bugs, rust-announce, etc, that some may think are official. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:38 PM Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:11:10PM +0200, Simon Sapin wrote: On 11/08/15 16:12, Simon Flynn wrote: Are you aware of https://users.rust-lang.org/ ? Yes, I'm aware. However, the focus of rustaceans.com will be fostering small, tight knit communities akin to what Perl Mongers is to Perl, whereas users.rust-lang.org is more for discussions of Rust itself. we have decided Who is we? The small team at Finance Jobs. I regularly attend the meetups in Paris. They are organized on meetup.com/Rust-Paris and on #rust-fr IRC. I don’t remember hearing of a desire for yet another communication channel. Did someone ask for paris-rustace...@rustaceans.com? The initial list of existing mailing lists where taken from the list of Rust 1.0 Launch Party events. Paris was one of them :) Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
I'm sad this list is inactive, I like my mailing lists and don't really love web forums. I was very surprised when today I got first e-mail, I forgot I subscribed. :-) ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski e...@fuse.pl wrote: I'm sad this list is inactive, I like my mailing lists and don't really love web forums. I was very surprised when today I got first e-mail, I forgot I subscribed. :-) If rustaceans.com were to host a general Rust discussion email list (e.g. rust-talk), I'd subscribe -- Tony Arcieri ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
W dniu 12.08.2015 o 00:57, Tony Arcieri pisze: If rustaceans.com http://rustaceans.com were to host a general Rust discussion email list (e.g. rust-talk), I'd subscribe I see they have rust-users, but the archives are empty. Well, I guess that's the world we're living. I might as well stick to /r/rust for now. ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
and where is this place you mention? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: Hi Rustaceans, With the rust-dev mailing list in a semi-abanandonded state, we have decided to create a new place where people can gather to talk all thing Rust, but in particular to help organize local meetups and other gatherings (e.g. conferences, open days etc). Rust on, Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
users.rust-lang.org is usually good enough for this. You can also email rust-commun...@googlegroups.com if you want to contact the community team (we may set up a separate forum for event organizers c) Thanks, -Manish Goregaokar On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Douglas Campos q...@qmx.me wrote: and where is this place you mention? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: Hi Rustaceans, With the rust-dev mailing list in a semi-abanandonded state, we have decided to create a new place where people can gather to talk all thing Rust, but in particular to help organize local meetups and other gatherings (e.g. conferences, open days etc). Rust on, Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
I think what Douglas was trying to say is that Simon forgot to include whatever link he was going to put in the email. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM Manish Goregaokar manishsm...@gmail.com wrote: users.rust-lang.org is usually good enough for this. You can also email rust-commun...@googlegroups.com if you want to contact the community team (we may set up a separate forum for event organizers c) Thanks, -Manish Goregaokar On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Douglas Campos q...@qmx.me wrote: and where is this place you mention? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: Hi Rustaceans, With the rust-dev mailing list in a semi-abanandonded state, we have decided to create a new place where people can gather to talk all thing Rust, but in particular to help organize local meetups and other gatherings (e.g. conferences, open days etc). Rust on, Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22:49AM -0300, Douglas Campos wrote: and where is this place you mention? Hi, Can't believe I forgot the link! https://www.rustaceans.com/ Simon On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: Hi Rustaceans, With the rust-dev mailing list in a semi-abanandonded state, we have decided to create a new place where people can gather to talk all thing Rust, but in particular to help organize local meetups and other gatherings (e.g. conferences, open days etc). Rust on, Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On 11/08/15 16:12, Simon Flynn wrote: Hi Rustaceans, With the rust-dev mailing list in a semi-abanandonded state, Hi Simon, Are you aware of https://users.rust-lang.org/ ? we have decided Who is we? to create a new place where people can gather to talk all thing Rust, but in particular to help organize local meetups and other gatherings (e.g. conferences, open days etc). https://www.rustaceans.com/ I regularly attend the meetups in Paris. They are organized on meetup.com/Rust-Paris and on #rust-fr IRC. I don’t remember hearing of a desire for yet another communication channel. Did someone ask for paris-rustace...@rustaceans.com? -- Simon Sapin ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:11:10PM +0200, Simon Sapin wrote: On 11/08/15 16:12, Simon Flynn wrote: Are you aware of https://users.rust-lang.org/ ? Yes, I'm aware. However, the focus of rustaceans.com will be fostering small, tight knit communities akin to what Perl Mongers is to Perl, whereas users.rust-lang.org is more for discussions of Rust itself. we have decided Who is we? The small team at Finance Jobs. I regularly attend the meetups in Paris. They are organized on meetup.com/Rust-Paris and on #rust-fr IRC. I don’t remember hearing of a desire for yet another communication channel. Did someone ask for paris-rustace...@rustaceans.com? The initial list of existing mailing lists where taken from the list of Rust 1.0 Launch Party events. Paris was one of them :) Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
Hi Sean, On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:50:12PM +, Sean McArthur wrote: I'd be wary of some of the lists, such as rust-core, rust-bugs, rust-announce, etc, that some may think are official. Mozilla having semi-closed their rust-dev mailing list was the motivation for hosting the rust-* lists. Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Sean McArthur smcart...@mozilla.com wrote: Yes I know. Even just adding `Unofficial' in the description of those lists would help prevent confusion, I think. To me Rustaceans implies unofficial/community organized, all the way down to Ferris. -- Tony Arcieri ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
Hi Emil, On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 01:00:33AM +0200, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote: W dniu 12.08.2015 o 00:57, Tony Arcieri pisze: If rustaceans.com http://rustaceans.com were to host a general Rust discussion email list (e.g. rust-talk), I'd subscribe I see they have rust-users, but the archives are empty. Well, I guess that's the world we're living. I might as well stick to /r/rust for now. I hope that was in jest - rustaceans.com has only been live for 9 hours. Simon -- Simon Flynn https://www.financejobs.co ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
Re: [rust-dev] Rustaceans - Rust User Groups
Yes I know. Even just adding `Unofficial' in the description of those lists would help prevent confusion, I think. The 'official' rust-core is https://internals.rust-lang.org On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM Simon Flynn simon.fl...@financejobs.co wrote: Mozilla having semi-closed their rust-dev mailing list was the motivation for hosting the rust-* lists. ___ Rust-dev mailing list Rust-dev@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/rust-dev
