Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230218162804._hs8u%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 ...
 |> Unfortunately commandalias, alias, shortcut, bind, colours etc etc
 |> are all not yet covered by "local"(opts), so that you really have
 |> to overwrite the things again when you switch off.
 |> I often use the on-account-cleanup hook for that, so that i am
 ...
 |>   define oac {
 |> uncommandalias oi os mi
 |> unshortcut imap
 |>}
 ...
 |>   set on-account-cleanup=oac
 ...
 |Is define oac really needed? I have shortcuts that are different between \
 |the 2 accounts and shortcuts that are same, but they are shoertcuts \
 |for the exact same thing in both accounts.

Whatever you want, hari!

 |PS1 As you may have noticed I learned the ~e function!

I have (i use "set escape=!")

  bind compose :kf1 !v
  bind compose :kf2 !p

 |PS2 I uninstalled mutt today!

Oh .. if that wasn't a bit early!  There is so much which is very
complicated to do with s-nail, if at all, what mutt can easily do.

 |PS3 Thank you for this great program!!

Thank you in return.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230218160854.mdavc%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>|>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>|>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  ...
 |>|Here is my .mailrc after following your suggestions (I think). Much \
 |>|smaller and cleaner! Could some options go out of the 2 accounts and \
 |>|put them before the accounts? Like set smtp-use-starttls or set imap-kee\
 |>|palive=240
 |>|   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache ?
 |> 
 |> Sure.  Like you do with netrc-lookup.  (Which i only set
 |> per-account).
 |> 
 |>|set v15-compat=y
 |>|set netrc-lookup
 |>|
 |>|set mime-alternative-favour-rich
 |>|set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
 |> 
 |> And you do use the built-in HTML filter for simple overview, that
 |> only for "mimeview".  Ok.
 |
 |Would you suggest to use lynx also for simple overview?

I personally use the built-in filter.  I almost never feel the
need to really go HTML, but if, i use copy+paste (my graphical web
browser runs in a box, i mean, ok, that could be done from mailcap
or whatever, but, well..)
"Normally" people really want the "copiousoutput" variant and look
at the HTML inline, aka via "lynx -dump".  I even do so for PDF,
pdftotext.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
 <20230218152915.ewsrx%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
 |Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 | <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 ||Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 ||> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ||>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 ||>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 ||>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ||>|>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 ||>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 ||>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ||>|>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 ||>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 ||>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 ||Here is my .mailrc after following your suggestions (I think). Much \
 ||smaller and cleaner! Could some options go out of the 2 accounts and \
 ||put them before the accounts? Like set smtp-use-starttls or set imap-kee\
 ||palive=240
 ||   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache ?
 |
 |Sure.  Like you do with netrc-lookup.  (Which i only set
 |per-account).

P.S.: the latter is a false statement.
(I had that wrong; in fact i only have one remaining use case for
.netrc after so many enforce OAuth, i have switched all GMail,
Microsoft and Yandex accounts to go via OAuth.  I do not use them
much but for testing, anyway, and anymore.)

Ciao.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>|>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>|>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...

> Unfortunately commandalias, alias, shortcut, bind, colours etc etc
> are all not yet covered by "local"(opts), so that you really have
> to overwrite the things again when you switch off.
> I often use the on-account-cleanup hook for that, so that i am
> sure all account-specifics are gone in the "global namespace"
> / other accounts, but i look forward to get that implemented,
> finally.  (Not v14.10 most likely, though.  Unfortunately.)
> 
>   define oac {
> uncommandalias oi os mi
> unshortcut imap
>   }
> 
> Local "define"s (aka in other macros) is also not yet supported.
> 
>  |   commandalias mi 'account account2'
>
>   set on-account-cleanup=oac



Is define oac really needed? I have shortcuts that are different between the 2 
accounts and shortcuts that are same, but they are shoertcuts for the exact 
same thing in both accounts.





>  |   set from="x xxxν "
>  |   set message-inject-tail=$'\n--- \nXX  \nX XX\
>  |   XX \n XX XX XXX XXX XXX \
>  |   '
>  |   set record=@Sent
>  |   set inbox=imaps://mail.xx.xx:993
>  |   set imap-keepalive=240
>  |   set imap--cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
> 
> Typo? 

Yes imap--cache was a typo, thank you!

> 
> Well it looks quite ok i would say.

Thanks to you! :-)

PS1 As you may have noticed I learned the ~e function!
PS2 I uninstalled mutt today!
PS3 Thank you for this great program!!

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>|>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>|>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |Here is my .mailrc after following your suggestions (I think). Much \
>  |smaller and cleaner! Could some options go out of the 2 accounts and \
>  |put them before the accounts? Like set smtp-use-starttls or set imap-kee\
>  |palive=240
>  |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache ?
> 
> Sure.  Like you do with netrc-lookup.  (Which i only set
> per-account).
> 
>  |set v15-compat=y
>  |set netrc-lookup
>  |
>  |set mime-alternative-favour-rich
>  |set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
> 
> And you do use the built-in HTML filter for simple overview, that
> only for "mimeview".  Ok.

Would you suggest to use lynx also for simple overview?

Thank you!

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 |Here is my .mailrc after following your suggestions (I think). Much \
 |smaller and cleaner! Could some options go out of the 2 accounts and \
 |put them before the accounts? Like set smtp-use-starttls or set imap-kee\
 |palive=240
 |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache ?

Sure.  Like you do with netrc-lookup.  (Which i only set
per-account).

 |set v15-compat=y
 |set netrc-lookup
 |
 |set mime-alternative-favour-rich
 |set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'

And you do use the built-in HTML filter for simple overview, that
only for "mimeview".  Ok.  You could then move this to your
~/.mailcap file, no?  You could remove the duplicate "mupdf" from
it and instead add a "text/html; lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html".

 |colour 256 view-header ft=bold,fg=111 subject,from
 |colour 256 view-partinfo fg=2
 |colour 256 view-msginfo fg=1
 |#colour 256 sum-dotmark   fg=204,ft=bold dot
 |#colour 256 sum-headerfg=39 older
 |#colour 256 sum-headerfg=39,ft=reverse dot
 |#colour 256 sum-headerfg=45
 |colour 256 sum-threadfg=39,ft=bold,ft=reverse dot
 |colour 256 sum-threadfg=172
 |colour 256 view-from_fg=142
 |#colour 256 view-header   fg=214,ft=bold from,subject
 |colour 256 view-header   fg=214 author,cc,sender,to
 |colour 256 view-header   fg=217 reply-to,mail-followup-to,user-agent
 |colour 256 view-header   fg=219
 |#colour 256 view-msginfo  fg=76,ft=bold
 |#colour 256 view-partinfo fg=76
 |#colour 256 mle-position  fg=203,ft=reverse
 |#colour 256 mle-promptfg=203
 |#colour 256 mle-error bg=124
 |
 |
 |
 |account account1 {
 |   set smtp-use-starttls

Yes make it global, v14.10 will bring smtp-config instead and TLS
is implied (must be turned off explicitly).

 |   set mta=smtp://mailgate.xx.xx
 |   set from="x xxx "
 |   set record=@Sent
 |   set inbox=imaps://imap.xx.xx:993
 |   set imap-keepalive=240
 |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
 |   commandalias oi 'account account1'
 |   commandalias os 'fi @Sent'

I for example have

  bind default :kf5 Fi+sent

so that pressing F5 goes to the sent folder, readonly.  (I usually
do not want to modify the sent folder.)
Unfortunately commandalias, alias, shortcut, bind, colours etc etc
are all not yet covered by "local"(opts), so that you really have
to overwrite the things again when you switch off.
I often use the on-account-cleanup hook for that, so that i am
sure all account-specifics are gone in the "global namespace"
/ other accounts, but i look forward to get that implemented,
finally.  (Not v14.10 most likely, though.  Unfortunately.)

  define oac {
uncommandalias oi os mi
unshortcut imap
  }

Local "define"s (aka in other macros) is also not yet supported.

 |   commandalias mi 'account account2'

  set on-account-cleanup=oac
 |}
 |
 |account account2 {
 |   set smtp-use-starttls
 |   set mta=smtp://mail.x.xx
 |   set from="x xxxν "
 |   set message-inject-tail=$'\n--- \nXX  \nX XX\
 |   XX \n XX XX XXX XXX XXX \
 |   '
 |   set record=@Sent
 |   set inbox=imaps://mail.xx.xx:993
 |   set imap-keepalive=240
 |   set imap--cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache

Typo?  Note that the imap-cache will definetely vanish not to come
back.  There will be a header cache, aka "mail summary files", as
shown by Jamie Zawinski for Netscape, a quarter of a century ago.
Yes, connect / disconnect will vanish, you switch on and off
a mailbox, and after connection breaks reconnection will be
automatic.  (The latter maybe already with v14.10, if i get a go.)

 |   shortcut imap imaps://mail..xx:993
 |   commandalias mi 'account account2'
 |   commandalias ms 'fi @Sent'
 |   commandalias oi 'account account1'
 |}
 |
 |alias x1 x...@xx.xx
 |alias dk zz...@z.zz

Well it looks quite ok i would say.

 --End of <20230218125916.ofb__%haris...@otenet.gr>

Ciao, and a nice weekend i wish.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>  ...
>  |>|For message "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox" how should my \
>  |>|mailbox \
>  |>|be? Everything in my .mailrc points to the web imap folder.
>  |> 
>  |> Must be connected, then.
>  |> If the connection breaks, and the code recognizes it, there is no
>  |> "active mailbox" no more, and the above message appears.  You need
>  |> to switch to another folder then.  (v15 will improve this a bit.
>  |> BUT will have no IMAP for a while. :))
>  ...
>  |I pointed MBOX to imap but the message still appears..
>  |
>  |Thank you for help!
>  |
>  |account otenet {
>  |   set MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/
>  |   set smtp-use-starttls
>  |   set mta=smtp://mail.xxx.xx
>  |   set from=" "
>  |   set folder=.mail/account1
> 
> Now you confuse me.  You want this to be on IMAP, right?
> There are examples in the manual, btw.
> 
>  |   set MBOX=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
>  |   set record=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx/Sent
>  |   set inbox=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
> 
> It is *inbox* _or_ $MAIL.
> 
>  |   set imap-keepalive=240
>  |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
>  |   shortcut imap imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
>  |}
> 
> 
>   set v15-compat=y
>   account otenet {
>  set smtp-use-starttls
>  set mta=smtp://mail.xxx.xx
>  set from=" "
>  set folder=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
>  set inbox=$folder
>  set MBOX=+
> 
> Though - primary and secondary being the same is something i had
> to think about.  (Ie, implications, whether it works.  But in
> modern mail usage MBOX is usually not used.  Why do you want it?)
> 
>  set record=+Sent
>  set imap-keepalive=240
>  set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
>  shortcut imap +
> 
> But instead simply say "file @" or "file +", easier in your
> example i would think.
> 
>   set netrc-lookup
> 
> You said you have stored user and password in ~/.netrc.
> 
>   }
> 
> If you then run "s-nail -A otenet" you should go via internet to
> $inbox aka $folder immediately.
> If that fails because connection fails then there will be no
> active mailbox and the above message occurs.
> You could try "s-nail -A otenet -vv" and look whether connection
> an authentication succeeds.
> The above (more or less) should really work.
> 
>  --End of <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

Here is my .mailrc after following your suggestions (I think). Much smaller and 
cleaner! Could some options go out of the 2 accounts and put them before the 
accounts? Like set smtp-use-starttls or set imap-keepalive=240
   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache ?

Thank you!!!

set v15-compat=y
set netrc-lookup

set mime-alternative-favour-rich
set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'

colour 256 view-header ft=bold,fg=111 subject,from
colour 256 view-partinfo fg=2
colour 256 view-msginfo fg=1
#colour 256 sum-dotmark   fg=204,ft=bold dot
#colour 256 sum-headerfg=39 older
#colour 256 sum-headerfg=39,ft=reverse dot
#colour 256 sum-headerfg=45
colour 256 sum-threadfg=39,ft=bold,ft=reverse dot
colour 256 sum-threadfg=172
colour 256 view-from_fg=142
#colour 256 view-header   fg=214,ft=bold from,subject
colour 256 view-header   fg=214 author,cc,sender,to
colour 256 view-header   fg=217 reply-to,mail-followup-to,user-agent
colour 256 view-header   fg=219
#colour 256 view-msginfo  fg=76,ft=bold
#colour 256 view-partinfo fg=76
#colour 256 mle-position  fg=203,ft=reverse
#colour 256 mle-promptfg=203
#colour 256 mle-error bg=124



account account1 {
   set smtp-use-starttls
   set mta=smtp://mailgate.xx.xx
   set from="x xxx "
   set record=@Sent
   set inbox=imaps://imap.xx.xx:993
   set imap-keepalive=240
   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
   commandalias oi 'account account1'
   commandalias os 'fi @Sent'
   commandalias mi 'account account2'
 }

account account2 {
   set smtp-use-starttls
   set mta=smtp://mail.x.xx
   set from="x xxxν "
   set message-inject-tail=$'\n--- \nXX  \nX 
 \n XX XX XXX XXX XXX 
'
   set record=@Sent
   set inbox=imaps://mail.xx.xx:993
   set imap-keepalive=240
   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
   shortcut imap imaps://mail..xx:993
   commandalias mi 'account account2'
   commandalias ms 'fi @Sent'
   commandalias oi 'accou

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>|>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  ...
 |>|For message "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox" how should my \
 |>|mailbox \
 |>|be? Everything in my .mailrc points to the web imap folder.
 |> 
 |> Must be connected, then.
 |> If the connection breaks, and the code recognizes it, there is no
 |> "active mailbox" no more, and the above message appears.  You need
 |> to switch to another folder then.  (v15 will improve this a bit.
 |> BUT will have no IMAP for a while. :))
 ...
 |I pointed MBOX to imap but the message still appears..
 |
 |Thank you for help!
 |
 |account otenet {
 |   set MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/
 |   set smtp-use-starttls
 |   set mta=smtp://mail.xxx.xx
 |   set from=" "
 |   set folder=.mail/account1

Now you confuse me.  You want this to be on IMAP, right?
There are examples in the manual, btw.

 |   set MBOX=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
 |   set record=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx/Sent
 |   set inbox=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx

It is *inbox* _or_ $MAIL.

 |   set imap-keepalive=240
 |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
 |   shortcut imap imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
 |}


  set v15-compat=y
  account otenet {
 set smtp-use-starttls
 set mta=smtp://mail.xxx.xx
 set from=" "
 set folder=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
 set inbox=$folder
 set MBOX=+

Though - primary and secondary being the same is something i had
to think about.  (Ie, implications, whether it works.  But in
modern mail usage MBOX is usually not used.  Why do you want it?)

 set record=+Sent
 set imap-keepalive=240
 set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
 shortcut imap +

But instead simply say "file @" or "file +", easier in your
example i would think.

  set netrc-lookup

You said you have stored user and password in ~/.netrc.

  }

If you then run "s-nail -A otenet" you should go via internet to
$inbox aka $folder immediately.
If that fails because connection fails then there will be no
active mailbox and the above message occurs.
You could try "s-nail -A otenet -vv" and look whether connection
an authentication succeeds.
The above (more or less) should really work.

 --End of <20230217184829.j1piy%haris...@otenet.gr>

Ciao,

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  |>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |For message "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox" how should my mailbox \
>  |be? Everything in my .mailrc points to the web imap folder.
> 
> Must be connected, then.
> If the connection breaks, and the code recognizes it, there is no
> "active mailbox" no more, and the above message appears.  You need
> to switch to another folder then.  (v15 will improve this a bit.
> BUT will have no IMAP for a while. :))
> 
> Ciao -- greetings to Greece!!
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

I pointed MBOX to imap but the message still appears..

Thank you for help!

account otenet {
   set MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/
   set smtp-use-starttls
   set mta=smtp://mail.xxx.xx
   set from=" "
   set folder=.mail/account1
   set MBOX=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
   set record=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx/Sent
   set inbox=imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
   set imap-keepalive=240
   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
   shortcut imap imaps://imap.xx.xx:xxx
 }

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230217133009.z4nty%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 |>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |>|Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |>|> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 |For message "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox" how should my mailbox \
 |be? Everything in my .mailrc points to the web imap folder.

Must be connected, then.
If the connection breaks, and the code recognizes it, there is no
"active mailbox" no more, and the above message appears.  You need
to switch to another folder then.  (v15 will improve this a bit.
BUT will have no IMAP for a while. :))

Ciao -- greetings to Greece!!

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Your moderate flag was still on.
> 
> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!
>  |Aber ich spreche Deutch! :-) Deutschland ist auch sehr schoen!
> 
> Na ja.  Not where i life, and not in winter.  Too grey, too dark,
> too cold.  Autobahn ist schön, for some strange notion of schön,
> but i do not use it.
> 
>  |> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
>  |I just write the email number and press enter. I suppose it is open?
> 
> This eventually ends up as the `next' command on the given message
> list, so i tend to agree.
> 
>  |With
>  | ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  | ? type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |I get this error: "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox"
> 
> Well, you should have opened one first :-)
> 
>  |Hereis my .mailrc :
>  |
>  |   set v15-compat
> 
> Make it set v15-compat=y.
> Like this you do not need "wysh", and the rest is upwards
> compatible.
> 
>  |   set emptystart
>  |   set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
>  |   set reply-in-same-charset
>  |   set sendwait
> 
> Is default.
> 
>  |   set mimetypes-load-control
> 
> Without value is like not set.  I'll change this for v14.10, when
> the variable was introduced we could not yet forbit empty
> variables.  Credits.
> 
>  |wysh set pipe-application/pdf='?&=?  trap "rm -f \"${MAILX_FILENAME_\
>  |TEMPORARY}\"" EXIT; trap "trap \"\" INT QUIT TERM; exit 1" INT \
>  |QUIT TERM; mupdf "${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}"'
> 
> (No "wysh", then.  But like i said, you possibly want to create
> a ~/.mailcap that can be shared with other programs.
> For example
> 
>   #@ ~/.mailcap
> 
>   application/pdf;\
> /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/MacOS/Preview %s;\
> test = [ "$(uname -s|tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')" = darwin ] 2>/dev/null;\
> nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> infile=%s\;\
>   trap "rm -f ${infile}" EXIT\;\
>   trap "exit 75" INT QUIT TERM\;\
>   mupdf "${infile}";\
> test = [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> nametemplate = %s.pdf; x-mailx-async; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> pdfinfo %s\; pdftotext -layout %s -;\
> test = command -v pdfinfo >/dev/null 2>&1; \
> copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
> 
>   application/*;\
> echo 'This is "%t", it looks like:'\; < %s head -c 512 | cat -vet\; echo;\
> copiousoutput; x-mailx-noquote; x-mailx-last-resort
> 
>   image/*;\
> display %s;\
> test = { [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] && command -v display\; } >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> x-mailx-test-once
> 
> 
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |account account1 {
>  |   localopts yes
> 
> Not needed in an account.
> 
>  |   set ssl_force_tls
> 
> This is nada -> set smtp-use-starttls
> (Will be implied default in v14.10.)
> 
>  |   set mta=smtp://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   set from="Me em...@email.com"
> 
> This surely does not work.  It must be either "Me " or
> plain em@ai.l.  It seems you also want set fullnames.
> 
>  |   set folder=.mail/account1
>  |   set record=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993/Sent
>  |   set inbox=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
> 
> I would suggest simply setting user and password, and drop that
> user:pass thing everywhere.  For example
> 
>   set user=user password=pass
> 
>  |   set imap-keepalive=240
>  |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
>  |   shortcut imap imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   # Type oi to login to the IMAP account
>  |   commandalias oi 'fi imap'
>  |}
>  |
>  |and account2 follows
>  |I open account1 with a .bashrc entry:
>  |alias o="export MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/ && mailx -A account1"
> 
> ..ok.. you could simply do this in the account
> 
>   ? set verbose; varshow MAIL; unset verbose
>   #sync-environ
> set MAIL=/var/mail/steffen
>   ? set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? var MAIL
>   set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? ! echo $MAIL
>   /dubi.du
> 
> As this is exported automatically .. to at least children of
> s-nail, not to its parent shell.
> 
>  |Everything works normally I think and without the 2 added lines (
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |)
>  |I don't have this error about active mailbox.
>  |Thanks a lot for reply!
> 
> Ciao.
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

For message "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox" how should my mailbox be? 
Everything in my .mailrc points to the web imap folder.
I made a very simple .mailcap:
application/pdf; mupdf %s
application/x-msexcel; libreoffice --calc %s
application/ms-exc; libreoffice --calc %s
application/excel; libreoffice -

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
>  <20230215233117.7fibs%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
>  |Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek![.]
> 
> Hello Χάρης.
> 
>   ...
>  | [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
>  | ...
>  ||and this code in my .mailrc
>  ||
>  || if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>  ||  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  ||endif
>  ...
>  ||nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?
> 
> I have changed the documentation example, and it now reads
> 
>  if "$features" =% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>unmimetype text/html
>mimetype ?h text/html html htm
>  else
>#set pipe-text/html=’?* elinks -force-html -dump 1’
>set pipe-text/html=’?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html’
>  endif
> 
> which should work (i hope).
> I gave credits to you, but i am, i apologise, in deep trouble
> regarding the greek spelling of your name.  It is (with many
> regrets) only copy and paste; i sorted in like "Ka" in THANKS.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Your moderate flag was still on.
> 
> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!
>  |Aber ich spreche Deutch! :-) Deutschland ist auch sehr schoen!
> 
> Na ja.  Not where i life, and not in winter.  Too grey, too dark,
> too cold.  Autobahn ist schön, for some strange notion of schön,
> but i do not use it.
> 
>  |> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
>  |I just write the email number and press enter. I suppose it is open?
> 
> This eventually ends up as the `next' command on the given message
> list, so i tend to agree.
> 
>  |With
>  | ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  | ? type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |I get this error: "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox"
> 
> Well, you should have opened one first :-)
> 
>  |Hereis my .mailrc :
>  |
>  |   set v15-compat
> 
> Make it set v15-compat=y.
> Like this you do not need "wysh", and the rest is upwards
> compatible.
> 
>  |   set emptystart
>  |   set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
>  |   set reply-in-same-charset
>  |   set sendwait
> 
> Is default.
> 
>  |   set mimetypes-load-control
> 
> Without value is like not set.  I'll change this for v14.10, when
> the variable was introduced we could not yet forbit empty
> variables.  Credits.
> 
>  |wysh set pipe-application/pdf='?&=?  trap "rm -f \"${MAILX_FILENAME_\
>  |TEMPORARY}\"" EXIT; trap "trap \"\" INT QUIT TERM; exit 1" INT \
>  |QUIT TERM; mupdf "${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}"'
> 
> (No "wysh", then.  But like i said, you possibly want to create
> a ~/.mailcap that can be shared with other programs.
> For example
> 
>   #@ ~/.mailcap
> 
>   application/pdf;\
> /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/MacOS/Preview %s;\
> test = [ "$(uname -s|tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')" = darwin ] 2>/dev/null;\
> nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> infile=%s\;\
>   trap "rm -f ${infile}" EXIT\;\
>   trap "exit 75" INT QUIT TERM\;\
>   mupdf "${infile}";\
> test = [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> nametemplate = %s.pdf; x-mailx-async; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> pdfinfo %s\; pdftotext -layout %s -;\
> test = command -v pdfinfo >/dev/null 2>&1; \
> copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
> 
>   application/*;\
> echo 'This is "%t", it looks like:'\; < %s head -c 512 | cat -vet\; echo;\
> copiousoutput; x-mailx-noquote; x-mailx-last-resort
> 
>   image/*;\
> display %s;\
> test = { [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] && command -v display\; } >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> x-mailx-test-once
> 
> 
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |account account1 {
>  |   localopts yes
> 
> Not needed in an account.
> 
>  |   set ssl_force_tls
> 
> This is nada -> set smtp-use-starttls
> (Will be implied default in v14.10.)
> 
>  |   set mta=smtp://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   set from="Me em...@email.com"
> 
> This surely does not work.  It must be either "Me " or
> plain em@ai.l.  It seems you also want set fullnames.
> 
>  |   set folder=.mail/account1
>  |   set record=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993/Sent
>  |   set inbox=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
> 
> I would suggest simply setting user and password, and drop that
> user:pass thing everywhere.  For example
> 
>   set user=user password=pass
> 
>  |   set imap-keepalive=240
>  |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
>  |   shortcut imap imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   # Type oi to login to the IMAP account
>  |   commandalias oi 'fi imap'
>  |}
>  |
>  |and account2 follows
>  |I open account1 with a .bashrc entry:
>  |alias o="export MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/ && mailx -A account1"
> 
> ..ok.. you could simply do this in the account
> 
>   ? set verbose; varshow MAIL; unset verbose
>   #sync-environ
> set MAIL=/var/mail/steffen
>   ? set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? var MAIL
>   set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? ! echo $MAIL
>   /dubi.du
> 
> As this is exported automatically .. to at least children of
> s-nail, not to its parent shell.
> 
>  |Everything works normally I think and without the 2 added lines (
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |)
>  |I don't have this error about active mailbox.
>  |Thanks a lot for reply!
> 
> Ciao.
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)
q

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Your moderate flag was still on.
> 
> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>  |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
>  |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!
>  |Aber ich spreche Deutch! :-) Deutschland ist auch sehr schoen!
> 
> Na ja.  Not where i life, and not in winter.  Too grey, too dark,
> too cold.  Autobahn ist schön, for some strange notion of schön,
> but i do not use it.
> 
>  |> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
>  |I just write the email number and press enter. I suppose it is open?
> 
> This eventually ends up as the `next' command on the given message
> list, so i tend to agree.
> 
>  |With
>  | ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  | ? type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |I get this error: "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox"
> 
> Well, you should have opened one first :-)
> 
>  |Hereis my .mailrc :
>  |
>  |   set v15-compat
> 
> Make it set v15-compat=y.
> Like this you do not need "wysh", and the rest is upwards
> compatible.
> 
>  |   set emptystart
>  |   set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
>  |   set reply-in-same-charset
>  |   set sendwait
> 
> Is default.
> 
>  |   set mimetypes-load-control
> 
> Without value is like not set.  I'll change this for v14.10, when
> the variable was introduced we could not yet forbit empty
> variables.  Credits.
> 
>  |wysh set pipe-application/pdf='?&=?  trap "rm -f \"${MAILX_FILENAME_\
>  |TEMPORARY}\"" EXIT; trap "trap \"\" INT QUIT TERM; exit 1" INT \
>  |QUIT TERM; mupdf "${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}"'
> 
> (No "wysh", then.  But like i said, you possibly want to create
> a ~/.mailcap that can be shared with other programs.
> For example
> 
>   #@ ~/.mailcap
> 
>   application/pdf;\
> /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/MacOS/Preview %s;\
> test = [ "$(uname -s|tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')" = darwin ] 2>/dev/null;\
> nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> infile=%s\;\
>   trap "rm -f ${infile}" EXIT\;\
>   trap "exit 75" INT QUIT TERM\;\
>   mupdf "${infile}";\
> test = [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> nametemplate = %s.pdf; x-mailx-async; x-mailx-test-once
>   application/pdf;\
> pdfinfo %s\; pdftotext -layout %s -;\
> test = command -v pdfinfo >/dev/null 2>&1; \
> copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
> 
>   application/*;\
> echo 'This is "%t", it looks like:'\; < %s head -c 512 | cat -vet\; echo;\
> copiousoutput; x-mailx-noquote; x-mailx-last-resort
> 
>   image/*;\
> display %s;\
> test = { [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] && command -v display\; } >/dev/null 2>&1;\
> x-mailx-test-once
> 
> 
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |
>  |account account1 {
>  |   localopts yes
> 
> Not needed in an account.
> 
>  |   set ssl_force_tls
> 
> This is nada -> set smtp-use-starttls
> (Will be implied default in v14.10.)
> 
>  |   set mta=smtp://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   set from="Me em...@email.com"
> 
> This surely does not work.  It must be either "Me " or
> plain em@ai.l.  It seems you also want set fullnames.
> 
>  |   set folder=.mail/account1
>  |   set record=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993/Sent
>  |   set inbox=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
> 
> I would suggest simply setting user and password, and drop that
> user:pass thing everywhere.  For example
> 
>   set user=user password=pass
> 
>  |   set imap-keepalive=240
>  |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
>  |   shortcut imap imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
>  |   # Type oi to login to the IMAP account
>  |   commandalias oi 'fi imap'
>  |}
>  |
>  |and account2 follows
>  |I open account1 with a .bashrc entry:
>  |alias o="export MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/ && mailx -A account1"
> 
> ..ok.. you could simply do this in the account
> 
>   ? set verbose; varshow MAIL; unset verbose
>   #sync-environ
> set MAIL=/var/mail/steffen
>   ? set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? var MAIL
>   set MAIL=/dubi.du
>   ? ! echo $MAIL
>   /dubi.du
> 
> As this is exported automatically .. to at least children of
> s-nail, not to its parent shell.
> 
>  |Everything works normally I think and without the 2 added lines (
>  |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |type HTML-MESSAGE
>  |)
>  |I don't have this error about active mailbox.
>  |Thanks a lot for reply!
> 
> Ciao.
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)


Steffen, thank you for detailed reply amd advice!
I knew I had almost anything wrong, but somehow mailx is very forgiving, so 
strangly things worked!
I corrected everything you suggested:
-put user, pass in .netrc
-deleted all default options
-set starttls
-removed export PATH from .bashrc and put set MAIL=$

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230216144638.6oewi%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
 |>  <20230215233117.7fibs%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
 |>|Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 |>| [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
 |>| ...
 |>  if "$features" =% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
 |>unmimetype text/html
 |>mimetype ?h text/html html htm
 |>  else
 |>#set pipe-text/html=’?* elinks -force-html -dump 1’
 |>set pipe-text/html=’?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html’
 |>  endif
 ...
 |Hello Steffen,
 |No problem with my name, you copied/pasted it correctly! :-))
 |
 |The new code still does not offer to open text/html with lynx (or any \
 |app) when
 |? mimeview

Well mimeview does not apply to the builtin filter.
But if you would say "mimetype text/html html htm" then you should
be asked even for this text part, i think Stephen Isard bugged
that.  (You are supposed to "type" / "print" / "next" etc the
normal text parts, "mimeview" is only for the non-displayable
others, say.)

 |but as I said the following code works:
 |set mime-alternative-favour-rich
 |set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230216125738.s3ua4%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 ...
 |It works with
 |set mime-alternative-favour-rich
 |set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
 |
 |eg ? mimeview 5 

Well mimeview and that favour-rich thing do not belong together.
But regardless, ok.  You could also include the manual thing

   define showhtml {
 \localopts yes
 \set mime-alternative-favour-rich pipe-text/html=?h?
 \type "$@"
   }
   \commandalias html \\call showhtml

and then do "html MESSAGE-NUMBER-OF-DESIRE".

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Hello.

Your moderate flag was still on.

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 <20230216081131.myqru%haris...@otenet.gr>:
 |Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:
 |> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 |> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!
 |Aber ich spreche Deutch! :-) Deutschland ist auch sehr schoen!

Na ja.  Not where i life, and not in winter.  Too grey, too dark,
too cold.  Autobahn ist schön, for some strange notion of schön,
but i do not use it.

 |> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
 |I just write the email number and press enter. I suppose it is open?

This eventually ends up as the `next' command on the given message
list, so i tend to agree.

 |With
 | ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 | ? type HTML-MESSAGE
 |
 |I get this error: "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox"

Well, you should have opened one first :-)

 |Hereis my .mailrc :
 |
 |   set v15-compat

Make it set v15-compat=y.
Like this you do not need "wysh", and the rest is upwards
compatible.

 |   set emptystart
 |   set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
 |   set reply-in-same-charset
 |   set sendwait

Is default.

 |   set mimetypes-load-control

Without value is like not set.  I'll change this for v14.10, when
the variable was introduced we could not yet forbit empty
variables.  Credits.

 |wysh set pipe-application/pdf='?&=?  trap "rm -f \"${MAILX_FILENAME_\
 |TEMPORARY}\"" EXIT; trap "trap \"\" INT QUIT TERM; exit 1" INT \
 |QUIT TERM; mupdf "${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}"'

(No "wysh", then.  But like i said, you possibly want to create
a ~/.mailcap that can be shared with other programs.
For example

  #@ ~/.mailcap

  application/pdf;\
/Applications/Preview.app/Contents/MacOS/Preview %s;\
test = [ "$(uname -s|tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]')" = darwin ] 2>/dev/null;\
nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once
  application/pdf;\
infile=%s\;\
  trap "rm -f ${infile}" EXIT\;\
  trap "exit 75" INT QUIT TERM\;\
  mupdf "${infile}";\
test = [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] >/dev/null 2>&1;\
nametemplate = %s.pdf; x-mailx-async; x-mailx-test-once
  application/pdf;\
pdfinfo %s\; pdftotext -layout %s -;\
test = command -v pdfinfo >/dev/null 2>&1; \
copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.pdf; x-mailx-test-once

  application/*;\
echo 'This is "%t", it looks like:'\; < %s head -c 512 | cat -vet\; echo;\
copiousoutput; x-mailx-noquote; x-mailx-last-resort

  image/*;\
display %s;\
test = { [ -n "${DISPLAY}" ] && command -v display\; } >/dev/null 2>&1;\
x-mailx-test-once


 |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 |type HTML-MESSAGE
 |
 |account account1 {
 |   localopts yes

Not needed in an account.

 |   set ssl_force_tls

This is nada -> set smtp-use-starttls
(Will be implied default in v14.10.)

 |   set mta=smtp://user:p...@server.com:993
 |   set from="Me em...@email.com"

This surely does not work.  It must be either "Me " or
plain em@ai.l.  It seems you also want set fullnames.

 |   set folder=.mail/account1
 |   set record=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993/Sent
 |   set inbox=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993

I would suggest simply setting user and password, and drop that
user:pass thing everywhere.  For example

  set user=user password=pass

 |   set imap-keepalive=240
 |   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
 |   shortcut imap imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
 |   # Type oi to login to the IMAP account
 |   commandalias oi 'fi imap'
 |}
 |
 |and account2 follows
 |I open account1 with a .bashrc entry:
 |alias o="export MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/ && mailx -A account1"

..ok.. you could simply do this in the account

  ? set verbose; varshow MAIL; unset verbose
  #sync-environ
set MAIL=/var/mail/steffen
  ? set MAIL=/dubi.du
  ? var MAIL
  set MAIL=/dubi.du
  ? ! echo $MAIL
  /dubi.du

As this is exported automatically .. to at least children of
s-nail, not to its parent shell.

 |Everything works normally I think and without the 2 added lines (
 |set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 |type HTML-MESSAGE
 |)
 |I don't have this error about active mailbox.
 |Thanks a lot for reply!

Ciao.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
>  <20230215233117.7fibs%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
>  |Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
>  ...
>  |Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek![.]
> 
> Hello Χάρης.
> 
>   ...
>  | [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
>  | ...
>  ||and this code in my .mailrc
>  ||
>  || if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>  ||  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  ||endif
>  ...
>  ||nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?
> 
> I have changed the documentation example, and it now reads
> 
>  if "$features" =% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>unmimetype text/html
>mimetype ?h text/html html htm
>  else
>#set pipe-text/html=’?* elinks -force-html -dump 1’
>set pipe-text/html=’?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html’
>  endif
> 
> which should work (i hope).
> I gave credits to you, but i am, i apologise, in deep trouble
> regarding the greek spelling of your name.  It is (with many
> regrets) only copy and paste; i sorted in like "Ka" in THANKS.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

Hello Steffen,
No problem with my name, you copied/pasted it correctly! :-))

The new code still does not offer to open text/html with lynx (or any app) when
? mimeview

but as I said the following code works:
set mime-alternative-favour-rich
set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'

Thank you!
Haris

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
> 
> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!  A hundred years ago
> i think it was everywhere here in Germany, and i think also in
> France.  Beautiful Greece!!
> 
>  <20230215220157.xvfcj%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>   ...
>  |s-nail v14.9.24, 2022-03-26 (built for Linux)
>  |Features included (+) or not (-):
>  ...
>  [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
>  ...
>  |and this code in my .mailrc
>  |
>  | if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>  |  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |endif
>  |
>  |mimetype ?t application/mathml+xml mathml
>  |
>  |define showhtml {
>  |  \localopts yes
>  |  \set mime-alternative-favour-rich pipe-text/html=?h?
>  |  \type "$@"
>  |}
>  |\commandalias html \\call showhtml
>  |
>  |nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?
> 
> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
> 
> As you do have that filter-html-tagsoup lynx(1) will never execute
> in the above -- it solely depends on the mimetype, then.
> And it may be that you have a /etc/mime.types or ~/mime.types
> which defines something for html in addition to internal
> mimetypes.
> 
> But in short: simply force your desired handler:
> 
>   ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> This should execute the lynx one now, reintegrating output into
> normal flow (with "set crt" this will likely startup the $PAGER
> then).  This is for plain HTML message, a multipart one likely
> wants to have a "set mime-alternative-favour-rich" first.
> 
>   ? set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> (Do not forget the "!" so we give up the terminal!)
> This will then say you should use the `mimeview' command.
> 
>   ? mimeview HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> This will ask you, and if you say "y" then lynx starts up.
> 
> Using a mailcap entry may be the easier and sharable approach.
> Does this help?  Sufficiently?
> 
> Using a mailcap handler is usually better and sharable, and
> mimetype tricks can also be played, like
> 
>   ? unmimetype text/html
>   ? mimetype ?h text/html html htm
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> And unless i am mistaken now the built-in filter-html-tagsoup
> should be used.
> 
> Ciao (may be off until tomorrow now, sorry!!!),
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

It works with
set mime-alternative-favour-rich
set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'

eg ? mimeview 5 

I didn't add ? type HTML-MESSAGE in .mailrc because of the error message
Thank you!

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης]

Steffen Nurpmeso  wrote:

> Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
> 
> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!  A hundred years ago
> i think it was everywhere here in Germany, and i think also in
> France.  Beautiful Greece!!
> 
>  <20230215220157.xvfcj%haris...@otenet.gr>:
>   ...
>  |s-nail v14.9.24, 2022-03-26 (built for Linux)
>  |Features included (+) or not (-):
>  ...
>  [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
>  ...
>  |and this code in my .mailrc
>  |
>  | if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
>  |  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>  |endif
>  |
>  |mimetype ?t application/mathml+xml mathml
>  |
>  |define showhtml {
>  |  \localopts yes
>  |  \set mime-alternative-favour-rich pipe-text/html=?h?
>  |  \type "$@"
>  |}
>  |\commandalias html \\call showhtml
>  |
>  |nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?
> 
> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
> 
> As you do have that filter-html-tagsoup lynx(1) will never execute
> in the above -- it solely depends on the mimetype, then.
> And it may be that you have a /etc/mime.types or ~/mime.types
> which defines something for html in addition to internal
> mimetypes.
> 
> But in short: simply force your desired handler:
> 
>   ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> This should execute the lynx one now, reintegrating output into
> normal flow (with "set crt" this will likely startup the $PAGER
> then).  This is for plain HTML message, a multipart one likely
> wants to have a "set mime-alternative-favour-rich" first.
> 
>   ? set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> (Do not forget the "!" so we give up the terminal!)
> This will then say you should use the `mimeview' command.
> 
>   ? mimeview HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> This will ask you, and if you say "y" then lynx starts up.
> 
> Using a mailcap entry may be the easier and sharable approach.
> Does this help?  Sufficiently?
> 
> Using a mailcap handler is usually better and sharable, and
> mimetype tricks can also be played, like
> 
>   ? unmimetype text/html
>   ? mimetype ?h text/html html htm
>   ? type HTML-MESSAGE
> 
> And unless i am mistaken now the built-in filter-html-tagsoup
> should be used.
> 
> Ciao (may be off until tomorrow now, sorry!!!),
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
> |(By Robert Gernhardt)

> Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!
Aber ich spreche Deutch! :-) Deutschland ist auch sehr schoen!

> With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?
I just write the email number and press enter. I suppose it is open?

With
 ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 ? type HTML-MESSAGE

I get this error: "s-nail: type: needs an active mailbox"

Hereis my .mailrc :

   set v15-compat
   set emptystart
   set sendcharsets=utf-8,iso-8859-1
   set reply-in-same-charset
   set sendwait
   set mimetypes-load-control
wysh set pipe-application/pdf='?&=?  trap "rm -f 
\"${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}\"" EXIT; trap "trap \"\" INT QUIT TERM; exit 
1" INT QUIT TERM; mupdf "${MAILX_FILENAME_TEMPORARY}"'

set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
type HTML-MESSAGE



account account1 {
   localopts yes
   set ssl_force_tls
   set mta=smtp://user:p...@server.com:993
   set from="Me em...@email.com"
   set folder=.mail/account1
   set record=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993/Sent
   set inbox=imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
   set imap-keepalive=240
   set imap-cache=~/.mail/.imap_cache
   shortcut imap imaps://user:p...@server.com:993
   # Type oi to login to the IMAP account
   commandalias oi 'fi imap'
 }

and account2 follows
I open account1 with a .bashrc entry:
alias o="export MAIL=$HOME/.mail/account1/ && mailx -A account1"

Everything works normally I think and without the 2 added lines (
set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
type HTML-MESSAGE
)
I don't have this error about active mailbox.
Thanks a lot for reply!
Haris

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
 <20230215233117.7fibs%stef...@sdaoden.eu>:
 |Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in
 ...
 |Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek![.]

Hello Χάρης.

  ...
 | [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
 | ...
 ||and this code in my .mailrc
 ||
 || if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
 ||  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 ||endif
 ...
 ||nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?

I have changed the documentation example, and it now reads

 if "$features" =% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
   unmimetype text/html
   mimetype ?h text/html html htm
 else
   #set pipe-text/html=’?* elinks -force-html -dump 1’
   set pipe-text/html=’?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html’
 endif

which should work (i hope).
I gave credits to you, but i am, i apologise, in deep trouble
regarding the greek spelling of your name.  It is (with many
regrets) only copy and paste; i sorted in like "Ka" in THANKS.

Ciao,

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Re: [S-mailx] html mails don't open in lynx

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Χάρης Καραχριστιανίδης wrote in

Oh it is _such_ a pity i cannot speek Greek!  A hundred years ago
i think it was everywhere here in Germany, and i think also in
France.  Beautiful Greece!!

 <20230215220157.xvfcj%haris...@otenet.gr>:
  ...
 |s-nail v14.9.24, 2022-03-26 (built for Linux)
 |Features included (+) or not (-):
 ...
 [.]+filter-html-tagsoup[.]
 ...
 |and this code in my .mailrc
 |
 | if "$features" !% ,+filter-html-tagsoup,
 |  set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
 |endif
 |
 |mimetype ?t application/mathml+xml mathml
 |
 |define showhtml {
 |  \localopts yes
 |  \set mime-alternative-favour-rich pipe-text/html=?h?
 |  \type "$@"
 |}
 |\commandalias html \\call showhtml
 |
 |nothing happens when I open html email. Any help?

With "open" you mean the "type" or "print" command?

As you do have that filter-html-tagsoup lynx(1) will never execute
in the above -- it solely depends on the mimetype, then.
And it may be that you have a /etc/mime.types or ~/mime.types
which defines something for html in addition to internal
mimetypes.

But in short: simply force your desired handler:

  ? set pipe-text/html='?* lynx -stdin -dump -force_html'
  ? type HTML-MESSAGE

This should execute the lynx one now, reintegrating output into
normal flow (with "set crt" this will likely startup the $PAGER
then).  This is for plain HTML message, a multipart one likely
wants to have a "set mime-alternative-favour-rich" first.

  ? set pipe-text/html='?! lynx -stdin -force_html'
  ? type HTML-MESSAGE

(Do not forget the "!" so we give up the terminal!)
This will then say you should use the `mimeview' command.

  ? mimeview HTML-MESSAGE

This will ask you, and if you say "y" then lynx starts up.

Using a mailcap entry may be the easier and sharable approach.
Does this help?  Sufficiently?

Using a mailcap handler is usually better and sharable, and
mimetype tricks can also be played, like

  ? unmimetype text/html
  ? mimetype ?h text/html html htm
  ? type HTML-MESSAGE

And unless i am mistaken now the built-in filter-html-tagsoup
should be used.

Ciao (may be off until tomorrow now, sorry!!!),

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)