[sage-devel] Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
[I posted this accidentally in sage-support first, please reply here. I would guess this indicates that I need to catch some sleep :)] We are quite close to 3.4.1.rc4 and the remaining open tickets are at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/query?status=assignedstatus=news... The situation in

[sage-devel] Embedding iframes into output cells

2009-04-19 Thread Pat LeSmithe
In case there's interest... It's possible to embed any web page into an output cell with a bit of client-side mischief: http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/464/ Since this uses cell_div_output_*, the embeds won't respond to requests to hide themselves or to delete all output. Perhaps it's better

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Hi all Well, we just need a resultant algorithm that doesn't go through Singular.  I'm planning to write such a thing as part of my cylindrical algebraic decomposition implementation sometime in the next few months. Carl yes, I agree with that. William, unfortunately I can't understand

[sage-devel] Re: Embedding iframes into output cells

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Nice! :) On 19 Apr, 16:42, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: In case there's interest...  It's possible to embed any web page into an output cell with a bit of client-side mischief: http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/464/ Since this uses cell_div_output_*, the embeds won't respond to

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel]primegaps

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
My question is how do prime numbers play into ground level computational programming? What is a troll and what is a couch boy? Why is there is so much resistance from the community at large against establishment of computational complexity, specifically the claim that [P=NP] seems to be a

[sage-devel] Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Cripps
Hi all, I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled fine): /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../ src -I../ src -I/root/sage/sage-3.4/local/include

[sage-devel] [sage-devel]primegaps

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Michael Musatov
primegaps = {First[#], Last[#]} /@ {{1, 2}, {2, 3}, {4, 7}, {6, 23}, {8, 89}, {14, 113}, {18, 523}, {20, 887}, {22, 1129}, {34, 1327}, {36, 9551}, {44, 15683}, {52, 19609}, {72, 31397}, {86, 155921}, {96, 360653}, {112, 370261}, {114, 492113}, {118, 1349533}, {132, 1357201},

[sage-devel] [sage-devel][P=NP] On The Nature of Computational Complexity

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Michael Musatov
“If smart people all had Ph.D.’s we would not have light bulbs.” – Martin Musatov speaking on American Entrepeneur and Innovator Thomas Edison Preface: “Computational Complexity” So much of what I have seen since I have began studying computational complexity simply amazes me. I have come from

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
Yep, that's me! On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Mike Cripps agentica...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled fine): /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
Aha! Quite the challenge is it not? On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all Well, we just need a resultant algorithm that doesn't go through Singular. I'm planning to write such a thing as part of my cylindrical algebraic decomposition

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 7:59 am, Mike Cripps agentica...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Hi Mike, I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled fine): SNIP ude -Wa,--noexecstack -g -O2 -MT mpih-add1-asm.lo -MD

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Bill Hart
It looks like the assembler is complaining because it is being asked to compile a 64 bit program on a machine which it incorrectly believes is 32 bits. We've seen a similar issue with MPIR, though the C compiler there was pathcc not gcc. We decided the machine had probably been set up

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Challenging? Just because about the problem of integration in finite terms Hardy in 1916 stated that “there is reason to suppose that no such method can be given” ? :) I want to add to this discussion that I found a lot of useful information in this thread from SymPy list:

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Cripps
Apologies - I have tar gzipped the install log file and it is at: http://www.irreverence.ath.cx/install.log.tar.gz (size is approx 116kB) I am concerned about Bill Hart's suggestion that my machine could believe it is 32bit - will the install log file be sufficient to determine if this is the

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear Michael, * #5662: Gonzalo Tonoria: Timing issue in clisp-readline (Nasty hang (deadlock?) in maxima pexpect interface on core 2 quad [Reviewed by Dan Drake] The 8th open ticket is a maxima can't start up problem and fixed by #5823 it seems. #5662 has a positive review, but I am

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@univ-rouen.fr wrote:       Dear Michael, Hi Florent, Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just giving a bad news ?   As mentioned on the ticket in the last two comments you need the spkgs from #5823 for the patch to work. Cheers,

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 19 Apr., 18:29, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@univ-rouen.fr wrote:       Dear Michael, Hi Florent, Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just giving a bad news ?   As mentioned on the ticket in the last two comments you

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Carl Witty
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, I took advantage of your suggestion, even though I assume I can't still go through the whole process with the current gcd capabilities in Pynac. But before than that, I'd like to point out something strange I

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 10:28 am, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com wrote: On 19 Apr., 18:29, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@univ-rouen.fr wrote:       Dear Michael, Hi Florent, Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, I took advantage of your suggestion, even though I assume I can't still go through the whole process with the current gcd capabilities in

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an open problem in

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an open problem in general (so in practice you just fake it by evaluating numerically

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, root d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an open problem in

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
So we have a good start to implement the Risch algorithm in sympy already. Ondrej, what result do you get for: integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
A much shorter example is: integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) to which Axiom replies: integrate: implementation incomplete (constant residues) What is f(x) = sqrt(x+log(x)) supposed to be an example of? Does f has an antiderivative that can be expressed in terms of elementary

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, root d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: So we have a good start to implement the Risch algorithm in sympy already. Ondrej, what result do you get for:  integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) In [1]: integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) Out[1]: ⌠ ⎮ ⎮ ╲╱ x + log(x)

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 1:01 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP  * #5806: Sage 3.4.1.rc3: failing test devel/sage/sage/misc/ sagedoc.py Ok, it seems that there is no movement on that ticket yet. So unless something pops up in the next hour or so this file will be nodoctest in 3.4.1 :(

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Apr 19, 5:14 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 1:01 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP  * #5806: Sage 3.4.1.rc3: failing test devel/sage/sage/misc/ sagedoc.py Ok, it seems that there is no movement on that ticket yet. So unless something pops up in

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Ondrej, How does sympy compute the integral of (x^2 + 2*x + 1 + (3*x+1)*sqrt(x+log(x)))/(x*sqrt(x+log(x))*(x+sqrt(x+log(x? See this thread in our list:

[sage-devel] Re: bug in rational_diagonal_form() from QuadraticForm class?

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
Hi Luis, please open a trac ticket since Jon did not respond yet and post the patch there. I talked to Gonzalo in IRC today and he mentioned that he also had a bug fix, but he wanted to give you a chance to post a patch first. Cheers, Michael

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 8:55 am, Mike Cripps agentica...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, Apologies - I have tar gzipped the install log file and it is at: http://www.irreverence.ath.cx/install.log.tar.gz(size is approx 116kB) I am concerned about Bill Hart's suggestion that my machine could believe it is

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 10:47 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 19, 8:55 am, Mike Cripps agentica...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, SNIP Could you post the output from /proc/cpuinfo please? Oops, I meant if the /proc/cpuinfo from the inside of the Xen machine in case the above wasn't it