[sage-devel] Re: tutorial: en vs. fr versions

2009-09-16 Thread peterjeremy
[This is getting a bit dated but I am endeavouring to post it simply to get my work out what is wrong with my subscription] I don't think this is as impossible as some people have suggested. Since there is a fairly heavy academic involvement in Sage: Maybe an expedition to the local School of

[sage-devel] Update of readline to 6.0 needs testing

2009-09-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William and I created a new .spkg for readline. http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Solaris-fixes/readline-6.0-2nd-try/readline-6.0.spkg It cures 3 problems I'm aware of 1) The old readline would not build on OS X 10.6 2) The old spkg-install would not make a 64-bit build on Solaris.

[sage-devel] Re: reviewer(s) for cliquer-1.2.p0.spkg on 64-bit platforms

2009-09-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:17 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP OK, I also posted a review with several specific comments about the spkg-install, which do include Kirkby's. An updated spkg is up at ticket #6681 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6681 It addresses all of

[sage-devel] SHA-3 Competition and Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, I am not sure how many readers of [sage-devel] are aware of the fact that currently there is an internal competition going on to find the next secure hash function. http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/sha-3/index.html http://ehash.iaik.tugraz.at/wiki/The_SHA-3_Zoo Today I

[sage-devel] Re: SHA-3 Competition and Sage

2009-09-16 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi there, I am not sure how many readers of [sage-devel] are aware of the fact that currently there is an internal competition going on to find the next secure hash function.  

[sage-devel] Re: reviewer(s) for cliquer-1.2.p0.spkg on 64-bit platforms

2009-09-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:17 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP OK, I also posted a review with several specific comments about the spkg-install, which do include Kirkby's. An updated spkg is up at ticket #6681

[sage-devel] Re: SHA-3 Competition and Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Martin, On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: SNIP Minh, Harald can you add it to the list of publications citing Sage? Done. See the updated publications page at http://www.sagemath.org/library-publications.html -- Regards Minh Van

[sage-devel] Re: SHA-3 Competition and Sage

2009-09-16 Thread wolmid
Hi All, 2009/9/16 Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com: Hi Martin, On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: SNIP Minh, Harald can you add it to the list of publications citing Sage? Done. See the updated publications page at

[sage-devel] Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Hello, I am trying to compile sage-4.1.1 from source on a Gentoo Linux x86_64 system with the experimental gcc-4.5.0. There are two issues, which are really the same problem. *** FIRST ISSUE *** gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC

[sage-devel] Re: reviewer(s) for cliquer-1.2.p0.spkg on 64-bit platforms

2009-09-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: SNIP will ensure that the spkg-install will not exit immediately if 'make' fails, but it will issue an informative error before exiting. I have updated the package with your suggestions. The updated

[sage-devel] Re: Behavior of solve

2009-09-16 Thread kcrisman
Sorry, I think you both misunderstood my question :) If I was having trouble in that sense, I would have posted on sage-support. My question is, what behavior should Sage ALLOW from solve? I am in the midst of fixing some solve behavior caused by the Maxima upgrade, and want someone else's

[sage-devel] Notebook snapshot bug?

2009-09-16 Thread kcrisman
While attempting to save and quit a worksheet the first time, in the terminal window I get: File /.../sage/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sage/server/ notebook/worksheet.py, line 1950, in limit_snapshots creation = int(os.path.splitext(snapshots[i])[0])

[sage-devel] Checking new code with an entire database (isogenies)

2009-09-16 Thread J. Cooley
Hi, I've written with my supervisor some code that computes the isogeny class of a curve over QQ. I would like to check it with the entire Cremona database overnight, but I'm not sure how to do that! To do it case by case I would do something like: sage: isogs, matrix = E.isogeny_class() sage:

[sage-devel] Re: reviewer(s) for cliquer-1.2.p0.spkg on 64-bit platforms

2009-09-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: SNIP will ensure that the spkg-install will not exit immediately if 'make' fails, but it will issue an informative error before exiting. I have updated the package with

[sage-devel] math software journal for R

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
At various times, a journal for math software has been discussed. Here is the math software journal for R. R probably has a much bigger community than Sage, and is much more entrenched in the profession than Sage. It would probably be good to talk to these guys and see how they do things

[sage-devel] Re: Checking new code with an entire database (isogenies)

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, J. Cooley j.a.coo...@warwick.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I've written with my supervisor some code that computes the isogeny class of a curve over QQ. I would like to check it with the entire Cremona database overnight, but I'm not sure how to do that! To do it case

[sage-devel] Re: Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: Hello, I am trying to compile sage-4.1.1 from source on a Gentoo Linux x86_64 system with the experimental gcc-4.5.0. There are two issues, which are really the same problem. Are they the only two issues and

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM, jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Another idea for a project is to finish the statistics module wrapping functionality in R.   I'm teaching a modeling class right now and I wish I had a nice module of statistics functionality. Thanks. If you have any

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM, jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Another idea for a project is to finish the statistics module wrapping functionality in R. I'm teaching a modeling class right now and I wish I had a nice module of statistics functionality.

[sage-devel] Re: Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: I am trying to compile sage-4.1.1 from source on a Gentoo Linux x86_64 system with the experimental gcc-4.5.0. There are two issues, which are really the same problem. Are they the only

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions that I wanted today).  I imagine that a stats module would use Cython to call the C functions for these sorts of things, but then use rpy2

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions that I wanted today). I imagine that a stats module would use Cython to call the C functions for these sorts of

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 16, 1:46 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM,  jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Another idea for a project is to finish the statistics module wrapping functionality in R.   I'm teaching a modeling class right

[sage-devel] Sage Days 17 -- day 2 status reports

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
== Wed September 16, 2009 == * Amod Agashe: did: arrived safely; testing level lower conjecture when no p-torsion up to level 800. plan to do: run code further; investigate Soroosh counterexample at 13; way to capture congruences only with old forms; craig and congruences with old forms. *

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Jason Grout wrote: Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions that I wanted today). I imagine that a stats module would use Cython to call the C functions

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Jason Grout wrote: Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions

[sage-devel] Re: Problem with different maxima versions

2009-09-16 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2009/9/16 Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: SNIP I think networkx 0.99 will require some nontrivial work in Sage, since they changed a lot of things. I forgot to say about another package, but at least

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 17 -- day 2 status reports

2009-09-16 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:  * Kevin Steuve: Compressing tables of differences between Li(x) and pi(x) by looking at differences of errors.  Using lza only save 1/8 th disk space (thought we would get more).  Also made my code use multi-core above

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Jason Grout wrote: Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions

[sage-devel] Re: Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
2009/9/16 Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be: William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: I am trying to compile sage-4.1.1 from source on a Gentoo Linux x86_64 system with the experimental gcc-4.5.0. There are two issues, which

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Beezer
On Sep 16, 10:32 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Another idea for a project is to finish the statistics module wrapping functionality in R.   I'm teaching a modeling class right now and I wish I had a nice module of statistics functionality. Introductory statistics (the

[sage-devel] Re: Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jeroen Demeyer wrote: However: there is one important caveat. I use the environment variable CC to set my compiler and not all packages honor this variable. At least the following packages do not use $CC (I have not investigated this issue deeply). * cliquer-1.2 * flint-1.3.0.p2 *

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Jason Grout wrote: Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: And in the *few* cases where it would make sense to reimplement anything in Cython for speed rather than interface with R (not my idea!), it seems likely that the functionality in question is primitive

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread lgautier
On Sep 16, 7:46 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM,  jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Another idea for a project is to finish the statistics module wrapping functionality in R.   I'm teaching a modeling class right

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: (With regards to creating Cython wrappers directly to C functions, I'd rather use the SciPy functionality, which is essentially the same thing, only that no reimplementation of the wheel is needed.) I meant that R already has C functions to calculate lots of

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
lgautier wrote: rpy2 is in fact providing 2 interfaces: a lower-level one (close to R's C API), and an higher-level one (written using the lower-level one, and able to use lower-level objects instead of higher-level ones). The lower-level interface is in fact design to permit the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 17 -- day 2 status reports

2009-09-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: * Kevin Steuve: Compressing tables of differences between Li(x) and pi(x) by looking at differences of errors. Using lza only save 1/8 th disk space (thought

[sage-devel] Re: Build problems with gcc-4.5.0

2009-09-16 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 at 08:04PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: However: there is one important caveat. I use the environment variable CC to set my compiler and not all packages honor this variable. At least the following packages do not use $CC (I have not investigated this issue deeply). *

[sage-devel] Re: web notebook in numerical methods

2009-09-16 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Pavel Solin so...@unr.edu wrote: You are right. We should reduce the initial amount of work for someone who visits for two minutes and just wants to check things out quickly. I described the notebook quite in detail in a new NSF proposal that I am submitting

[sage-devel] Re: web notebook in numerical methods

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
2009/9/16 Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Pavel Solin so...@unr.edu wrote: You are right. We should reduce the initial amount of work for someone who visits for two minutes and just wants to check things out quickly. I described the notebook quite in detail

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: I did write a lot of stats in Cython already, and it's much faster than both R and scipy.stats at what it does (at least last time I checked). This is all the code in Sage's finance.TimeSeries... It's very specialized though compared to what is offered by Scipy/R.

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
2009/9/16 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com: William Stein wrote: I did write a lot of stats in Cython already, and it's much faster than both R and scipy.stats at what it does (at least last time I checked).  This is all the code in Sage's finance.TimeSeries... It's very specialized

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions that I wanted today). I imagine that a stats module would use Cython to call the C functions for these sorts of

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: Carlo Hamalainen wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: R has a C interface for lots of functions (like the distribution functions that I wanted today). I imagine that a stats module would use Cython to call the C functions

[sage-devel] Re: Statistics in Sage

2009-09-16 Thread William Stein
2009/9/16 Robert Dodier robert.dod...@gmail.com: William Stein wrote: so if you could say more about what you might want such a nice module to do, it would be very useful! Well, in order to have some functionality above and beyond what R or other numerical systems offer, I think you