[sage-combinat-devel] CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce
I am trying to construct the fee module on the set of instances of a class G. I start with M = CombinatorialFreeModule(QQ,G) If f,g are instances of G I then continue with a = M.monomial(f) b = M.monomial(g) and I can then form a+a , a+b etc. and a - a is indeed 0. However if I try 2*a I get

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi Bruce, On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 03:33:21AM -0700, Bruce wrote: I am trying to construct the fee module on the set of instances of a class G. I start with M = CombinatorialFreeModule(QQ,G) If f,g are instances of G I then continue with a = M.monomial(f) b = M.monomial(g)

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread bump
On Sep 2, 3:33 am, Bruce brucewestb...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to construct the fee module on the set of instances of a class G. It would be good to give a complete example, that is, with a particular G. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and/or explain this? Thanks -- You

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce
O.K. Then a minimal example to start with would be class G: blah = 0 f = G() g = G() On Sep 2, 3:00 pm, bump b...@match.stanford.edu wrote: On Sep 2, 3:33 am, Bruce brucewestb...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to construct the fee module on the set of instances of a class G. It would

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce
Hi Florent I am not sure if you mean it is a bug that a + b works or that 2*a doesn't. The documentation describes a Parent as a set. In these terms the Parent I want is the set of instances of the class G. I don't know how to construct this as a Parent or even if this is allowed. On Sep 2,

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Bruce
I have played around following Florent's comment and the following seems to work (while at the same time displaying my ignorance) class G: blah = 0 f =G() g=G() p=parent(f) M=CombinatorialFreeModule(QQ,p) a=M.monomial(f) b=M.monomial(g) (2/3)*a+(4/5)*b -- You received this message

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread Jason Bandlow
Hi Bruce, Incidentally, the following works for me, with sage 4.5.2, which I think was your minimal counter-example. Did I misunderstand? What version of sage are you using? sage: class G: : blah = 0 : sage: f = G() sage: g = G() sage: M = CombinatorialFreeModule(QQ, G) sage: a =

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: CombinatorialFreeModule (again)

2010-09-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sep 2, 3:33 am, Bruce brucewestb...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to construct the free module on the set of instances of a class G. Did you also ask this on ask.sagemath.org? I've posted some possibly related ideas in the thread http://ask.sagemath.org/question/94/using-

Re: [sage-devel] Re: non-stable .spkgs (alpha, beta, svn/cvs snapshots etc)

2010-09-02 Thread François Bissey
On 2 Sep, 05:55, François Bissey f.r.bis...@massey.ac.nz wrote: Who would agree with making this a policy and so adding to the Sage Developers Guide a few sentences saying that any updates of packages that are not to a stable release (i.e snapshots, alpha, beta, release candidates

[sage-devel] Re: sage -spkg may hang

2010-09-02 Thread Simon King
Hi Mitesh, On Sep 2, 12:42 am, Mitesh Patel qed...@gmail.com wrote: ... If you still have a copy of the hanging package directory, could you try print-debugging to isolate the problem?  Possibilities include the system calls to 'tar' and to 'sage -hg diff'. I reconstructed the hanging

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-09-02 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 9/1/10 10:32 AM, Bill Hart wrote: Tim, all screwing around aside for a moment. I broadly agree with your sentiments. However, there are also some issues with what you are suggesting. And I mean to make these

[sage-devel] New component on trac - PLEASE CHANGE

2010-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
As you may have noticed, if you create a ticket on trac, the default component is algebra, as that is the first component in alphabetical order. That means anyone that forgets to set a component properly will get it set to algebra and it assigned to AlexGhitza. I've added a component PLEASE

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-09-02 Thread Tim Daly
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 9/1/10 10:32 AM, Bill Hart wrote: Tim, all screwing around aside for a moment. I broadly agree with your sentiments. However, there are also some issues with what you are

[sage-devel] Trac components

2010-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
A few questions I have about trac. 1) There are components of graph theory and group_theory. Is the underscore on group_theory supposed to make it less easy to confuse with graph theory, or is it just a mistake and so the underscore should be removed? 2) Should there be a linear programming

[sage-devel] PhD position Industrial Algebra available (aka The PolyBoRi PhD)

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Dreyer
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a suitable PhD candidate for a position at the Fraunhofer ITWM in Kaiserslautern, Germany. The topic is Industrial Algebra : Hopefully, there's somebody out there with the following skills: * Computer Algebra, in particular Gröbner methods * Experience with at

[sage-devel] Re: PhD position Industrial Algebra available (aka The PolyBoRi PhD)

2010-09-02 Thread Alexander Dreyer
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[sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-09-02 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 2, 5:28 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 9/1/10 10:32 AM, Bill Hart wrote: Tim, all screwing around aside for a moment. I broadly agree with your sentiments. However, there are also

[sage-devel] Re: consistent style for sagemath.org and sage documentation

2010-09-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 1, 11:33 pm, Niles nil...@gmail.com wrote:  Here's a screenshot of some very basic changes, using the colors from sagemath.org: http://www.nilesjohnson.net/sage-style-docs.png Nice, but some time ago I picked some colors for the website and if I'll ever give it some refreshment, at

[sage-devel] Re: consistent style for sagemath.org and sage documentation

2010-09-02 Thread kcrisman
After a while, I decided to see how hard this might be to change . . . as you would expect, it was totally trivial (at least for a first pass).  Here's a screenshot of some very basic changes, using the colors from sagemath.org: http://www.nilesjohnson.net/sage-style-docs.png That's a

[sage-devel] Re: Random banter about Sage standards

2010-09-02 Thread rjf
Is it pronounced Piss-ige or Pee-Sage? What does the P stand for? I know that dogs, etc. mark locations this way, so maybe that has to do with geometry? see sage-flame for a snarkier comment. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: consistent style for sagemath.org and sage documentation

2010-09-02 Thread Niles
Hello all, A ticket for this now exists at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9850 and it contains the patch with a screenshot. On Sep 1, 9:21 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 9/1/10 5:17 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: The sick green has always been a bit jarring to my

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A Mathematica parser for Sage.

2010-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 09/ 2/10 06:10 AM, rjf wrote: the mathematica syntax parser that I wrote appears to run inside Maxima, so you can, if you wish, feed such text to the mma-in-maxima system. Sorry to sound green, but I barely know Maxima, and do not know Lisp at all. I do know Mathematica - though I'm

[sage-devel] Re: consistent style for sagemath.org and sage documentation

2010-09-02 Thread Niles
On Sep 2, 1:59 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Does this discussion belong (also) on sage-marketing, by the way? Indeed; I'm forwarding it now. Dear sage-marketing, Here's the link to the beginning of this thread

[sage-devel] Re: A Mathematica parser for Sage.

2010-09-02 Thread rjf
On Sep 2, 2:23 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 09/ 2/10 06:10 AM, rjf wrote: the mathematica syntax parser that I wrote appears to run inside Maxima, so you can, if you wish, feed such text to the mma-in-maxima system. Sorry to sound green, but I barely know

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage -spkg may hang

2010-09-02 Thread Mitesh Patel
On 09/02/2010 03:17 AM, Simon King wrote: On Sep 2, 12:42 am, Mitesh Patel qed...@gmail.com wrote: ... If you still have a copy of the hanging package directory, could you try print-debugging to isolate the problem? Possibilities include the system calls to 'tar' and to 'sage -hg diff'. I

[sage-devel] broken links on sagemath.org

2010-09-02 Thread Dan Drake
Hello sagemath.org web people, I have a link to http://www.sagemath.org/why/muntingh-sage-review/muntingh-sage-review/node2.html which is broken. There's a link to the same kind of page from http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE_in_the_News which is also broken. Can someone with access to the

Re: [sage-devel] broken links on sagemath.org

2010-09-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Dan, On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Hello sagemath.org web people, I have a link to http://www.sagemath.org/why/muntingh-sage-review/muntingh-sage-review/node2.html which is broken. I think that broken link came about during the redesign of the library