Re: [sage-combinat-devel] tensor products of free modules; combinatorial algebras

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Shimozono
Terribly sorry for all the spamming but I'm truly perplexed by the following error. I tried a similar toy example to test the **keywords syntax and it worked. I thought I had changed the sage.categories.modules_with_basis.ModulesWithBasis tensor ParentMethod to accept keyword arguments.

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] tensor products of free modules; combinatorial algebras

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Shimozono
Well, I tried doing make start After that, the code worked! Somehow sage -b was not properly remaking sage. I have no idea why not. --Mark Terribly sorry for all the spamming but I'm truly perplexed by the following error. I tried a similar toy example to test the **keywords syntax

Re: [sage-devel] Re: drop future first-class SPARC support?

2014-02-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-02-23 18:28, Volker Braun wrote: OpenGL states that the result is undefined (i.e. may lead to graphics glitches) If the result is undefined, that's a good reason to avoid NaNs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

[sage-devel] Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
What is the license of the Sage library (not Sage-the-distribution) supposed to be? I know it used to be GPL v2+, but Volker has changed this in the documentation to GPL v3+ (see 67a76032) while COPYING.txt states GPL v2+. Was this intentional or a mistake in the documentation? Jeroen. --

[sage-devel] Re: Adding plot to polyhedron plot has side effects

2014-02-24 Thread Robert Lipshitz
Thanks -- missed that somehow when searching trac. Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[sage-devel] Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
AFAIK it is GPL v3+, there should be some old discussion on sage-devel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/24/14 8:26 AM, Volker Braun wrote: AFAIK it is GPL v3+, there should be some old discussion on sage-devel IIRC, it is GPL v2+. I'd be interested in seeing the discussion you reference. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

[sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
Uh oh. Splendid. License discussion (again). Since GPL v3+ is not compatible with GPL v2 (without +), a change from GPL v2+ to GPL v3+ would mean a change to a more restrictive license. IIRC, Sage-the-library always was intended to be GPL v2+, while Sage-the-distribution might have

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-02-24 15:57, Georg S. Weber wrote: IIRC, Sage-the-library always was intended to be GPL v2+, while Sage-the-distribution might have incorporated GPL v3+ parts by now, but note that IIRC Singular has a license either GPL v2 or GPL v3 which would rule out something as a (not existing at

[sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
On Monday, 24 February 2014 15:57:23 UTC+1, Georg S. Weber wrote: Uh oh. Splendid. License discussion (again). Since GPL v3+ is not compatible with GPL v2 (without +), a change from GPL v2+ to GPL v3+ would mean a change to a more restrictive license. IIRC, Sage-the-library always was

[sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/24/14 9:01 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Sage-the-distribution is GPL v3 only. This is the only license which is compatible with all components of Sage. IIRC, that is because some components are licensed as GPL 2 or 3, while others are GPLv3+, right? Thanks, Jason -- You received this

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Big problem with ppa (6.1).

2014-02-24 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Perhaps someone on sage devel can help. Specifically this is called: 0 jan@snapperkob:~/src/sagemath-optional/sagemath-optional-6.1/debian$grep -A1 SPKG postinst for SPKG in /usr/lib/sagemath/upstream/*; do HOME=/root/ DOT_SAGE=/root/.sage /usr/bin/sage -i

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Big problem with ppa (6.1).

2014-02-24 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Where are these directories in / really supposed to be installed? $SAGEROOT/local/share? Things like conway and cremona are there: 0 root@muizenberg:/usr/lib/sagemath/local/share#ls aclocal conway_polynomials docgap git-core graphs info locale maxima perl

[sage-devel] Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Harald Schilly
Sage has been accepted for the Google Summer of Code 2014 programme. Harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread mmarco
Good to hear. Do we already know how many students will be assigned? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Harald Schilly
No. First we need the proposals and we evaluate and rank them. This means, everyone discusses them, gives them a number from 0 to 10, and we set their state to ok (or however it is called) or invalid. Then I am, in my role as administrator, tell google melange two numbers: minimum number of how

[sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
Without any spelunking on sage-devel, as GPLv3+ is a subset of GPLv2+ all you need is find a source file that claims specifically GPLv3+. I'm at a conference right now and haven't done the grep exercise, but I'm pretty sure that will be easy to find. On Monday, February 24, 2014 3:39:15 PM

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Without any spelunking on sage-devel, as GPLv3+ is a subset of GPLv2+ all you need is find a source file that claims specifically GPLv3+. I'm at a conference right now and haven't done the grep exercise, but I'm pretty

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Julian Rüth
* William Stein wst...@gmail.com [2014-02-24 11:34:25 -0800]: Thus I find no code in the core Sage library that is GPLv3(+). I found these three matches: $ grep -r version 3 . ./schemes/toric/points.py:# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Julian Rüth julian.ru...@fsfe.org wrote: * William Stein wst...@gmail.com [2014-02-24 11:34:25 -0800]: Thus I find no code in the core Sage library that is GPLv3(+). I found these three matches: $ grep -r version 3 . ./schemes/toric/points.py:# as published

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-02-24 20:42, Julian Rüth wrote: ./rings/number_field/splitting_field.py This code is mine can be released under the GPL v2 also. I simply copied the copyright statement from the new developer's manual (the one which was changed from version 2 or later to version 3 or later). Jeroen.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
IMHO GPLv3+ is the recommended license by the FSF. What exactly is there to fix? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Julian Rüth
* Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com [2014-02-24 12:20:43 -0800]: IMHO GPLv3+ is the recommended license by the FSF. What exactly is there to fix? In many places we have GPLv2 (without the +). GPLv3+ is incompatible with GPLv2 (http://gplv3.fsf.org/wiki/index.php/Compatible_licenses). julian

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-02-24 21:32, Julian Rüth wrote: In many places we have GPLv2 (without the +) I hope not, that would be a big problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Julian Rüth
* Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be [2014-02-24 21:37:23 +0100]: On 2014-02-24 21:32, Julian Rüth wrote: In many places we have GPLv2 (without the +) I hope not, that would be a big problem. You're right. But there are actually a few: plot/plot3d/transform.pyx combinat/words/words.py

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:34:25 PM UTC+1, William wrote: However, there is Cython code in the core library that relies on GSL, and GSL is GPLv3+.I don't think this forces the Sage library to be GPLv3+, since there is also a GPLv2+ version of GSL with the *same API*, which we used

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
Did you open a ticket for that? On Monday, February 24, 2014 9:46:38 PM UTC+1, Julian Rüth wrote: You're right. But there are actually a few: plot/plot3d/transform.pyx combinat/words/words.py combinat/words/word_options.py combinat/words/word_infinite_datatypes.py

[sage-devel] Re: Saving .show() Output as a Vector Graphic

2014-02-24 Thread Evan Oman
On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:18:00 AM UTC-6, P Purkayastha wrote: On 02/24/2014 12:22 PM, Evan Oman wrote: I am using Sage to make visual representations of Graphs(ie of the vertex and edge variety) via the show command. However as far as I can tell I can only save these as a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Julian Rüth
* Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com [2014-02-24 13:15:25 -0800]: Did you open a ticket for that? Not yet. I do not have access to trac from this machine. I can create a ticket later today. julian pgpjxOBzubZ8e.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO GPLv3+ is the recommended license by the FSF. What exactly is there to fix? The Sage developers decided when GPL3 was coming out (years ago) to keep the library GPLv2+ compatible, but the distribution has to be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread William Stein
Somebody needs to update this: http://wiki.sagemath.org/GSoC On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: No. First we need the proposals and we evaluate and rank them. This means, everyone discusses them, gives them a number from 0 to 10, and we set their

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
Is there actually somebody that replaces half a dozen libraries with almost decade-old versions and then uses that to run/develop Sage? It might have been possible back then, but it sure sounds extremely unlikely now. On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:37:18 PM UTC+1, William wrote: On Mon,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: drop future first-class SPARC support?

2014-02-24 Thread Volker Braun
IMHO a potential graphics glitch (doesn't even happen with matplotilb, I was just citing what the relevant OpenGL specs say) is still preferable to having a perfect rendition of the wrong plot. Which is the current state. On Monday, February 24, 2014 9:42:07 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Amit Jamadagni
Hello, I am a student and I would like to participate in SoC. I have already posted about my interest on working about the implementation of Knot Theory. Is it necessary that the message be forwarded to mentors or any other mailing list other than this one ?? Thanks. On Tue, Feb 25,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage library license

2014-02-24 Thread Julian Rüth
* Julian Rüth julian.ru...@fsfe.org [2014-02-24 22:28:37 +0100]: * Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com [2014-02-24 13:15:25 -0800]: Did you open a ticket for that? Not yet. I do not have access to trac from this machine. I can create a ticket later today. This is now

Re: [sage-devel] Re: admin for ask.sagemath

2014-02-24 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:13:28AM -0800, William Stein wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: I thought of one more issue here. Has the new branch of sagenb where the report a bug link goes to ask.sagemath instead of the Google doc gone live yet?

[sage-devel] wolfram language

2014-02-24 Thread Jason Grout
I just saw this on HackerNews: http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2014/02/starting-to-demo-the-wolfram-language/ I understand that they are trying to release the mathematica cloud thing sometime this quarter. This video (above) is kind of interesting. The cloud interface to mathematica is

[sage-devel] Re: Adding plot to polyhedron plot has side effects

2014-02-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/24/14 1:22 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: On 02/24/2014 01:55 AM, Robert Lipshitz wrote: Hi, When I add a 3d plot to a polyhedron plot, it doesn't just return a new plot object but also changes the polyhedron plot. On the other hand, adding two 3d plots does not change either of them. For

[sage-devel] Re: Saving .show() Output as a Vector Graphic

2014-02-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/24/14 3:21 PM, Evan Oman wrote: On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:18:00 AM UTC-6, P Purkayastha wrote: On 02/24/2014 12:22 PM, Evan Oman wrote: I am using Sage to make visual representations of Graphs(ie of the vertex and edge variety) via the show command. However

[sage-devel] Failed to Create public.pem on OSX Lion

2014-02-24 Thread Kevin Wheelock
I apologize for cross-posting to both here and on support, but I haven't gotten any responses after several days, and so perhaps this is a better group for my question... I compiled 6.1.1 on OSX Lion. The compile went flawlessly. I did ./sage -i openssl make ssl My goal is to run a Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage accepted for GSoC 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello Amit, I am a student and I would like to participate in SoC. I have already posted about my interest on working about the implementation of Knot Theory. Is it necessary that the message be forwarded to mentors or any other mailing list other than this one ?? Thanks. There are already