[sage-devel] Re: vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread mmarco
Can it handle non-python packages? Or the idea is to use it only for python packages that need no compilation at all? El jueves, 24 de abril de 2014 00:46:50 UTC+2, William escribió: Hi, There used to be a lot of confusion about which package manager / installer one should use with python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:09 PM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: Can it handle non-python packages? No -- it is the standard package manager *for* Python. Or the idea is to use it only for python packages that need no compilation at all? This question doesn't make sense to me, because many

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
[ ] Yes, make pip a standard part of Sage. [ ] No, pip does not belong in Sage. It depends: I would say Yes if the objective is to simplify the install script (i.e. use pip for all our Python packages that are not patched). Note that pip is very convenient and takes care of versioning and

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 03:46:50PM -0700, William Stein wrote: [ ] Yes, make pip a standard part of Sage. [ ] No, pip does not belong in Sage. Definitely +1 on any step toward using standard package managers, and this sounds like a nice one. Now which tools is most appropriate, I have no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-24 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Leif, Do you have a URL for me of the bug / fixes? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6 Regards, Jan On 20 April 2014 16:26, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: Jan Groenewald wrote: On 20 April 2014 14:50, leif not.rea...@online.de mailto:not.rea...@online.de wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-04-24 00:46, William Stein wrote: Hi, There used to be a lot of confusion about which package manager / installer one should use with python -- easy_install? setuptools? etc. Now the choice is clear: pip -- A tool for installing and managing Python packages. Does pip supersede

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 24 April 2014 09:44, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: On 2014-04-24 00:46, William Stein wrote: Hi, There used to be a lot of confusion about which package manager / installer one should use with python -- easy_install? setuptools? etc. Now the choice is clear: pip

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread John Cremona
Question: would this make it possible to automatically have certain python packages installed when Sage builds (after building its python of course), perhaps from a list kept in a config file in .sage/ ? I have a list of packages I use a lot (for the lmfdb project), e.g. pymongo, and it is a

[sage-devel] script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hi, I was reading #16216 and I was wondering whether 1) it is possible instead of a branch, to provide a simple script that would be applied to the source files 2) it is possible to provide a simple script that would be tested for each future branch merge (typically after #16216 it would be

[sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Wilfried Lübbe
That could / should be part of a more comprehensive approach: check for PEP8 / other guideline violations. Such a script might be supplied by Sage. It could even be a git pre-commit hook (but I would consider this too extreme :-) Wilfried -- You received this message because you are

[sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-24 Thread leif
Jan Groenewald wrote: Do you have a URL for me of the bug / fixes? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/968766 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/972648 -leif On 20 April 2014 16:26, leif not.rea...@online.de mailto:not.rea...@online.de wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] moved wiki.sagemath.org to vm

2014-04-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Keith! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 01:31:07PM -0700, Keith Clawson wrote: I just finished moving wiki.sagemath.org from boxen to a dedicated virtual machine. The only noticeable change should be that I renamed MyStartingPage to SageWiki (there's a redirect so this shouldn't

Re: [sage-devel] vote: include pip with sage

2014-04-24 Thread Francois Bissey
I guess some package management would be an improvement from the present situation. the fact it only works for python packages is a bit half baked but it is a good step in my opinion. As far as I can tell this means that once we have bootstrapped pip we can simplify spkg-install for python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PPA dependencies

2014-04-24 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi This seems to be a holdup: Steve Langasek (vorlon) https://launchpad.net/%7Evorlon wrote on 2012-10-13: #11https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.6/+bug/972648/comments/11 The change that has been uploaded to precise-proposed looks appropriate for an SRU, but this bug is missing

[sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:37:14 AM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote: 1) it is possible instead of a branch, to provide a simple script that would be applied to the source files No 2) it is possible to provide a simple script that would be tested for each future branch merge (typically

Re: [sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Thanks Volker. 2014-04-24 15:38 UTC+02:00, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com: On Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:37:14 AM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote: 1) it is possible instead of a branch, to provide a simple script that would be applied to the source files No 1') Would it be possible to have

Re: [sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:48:19 PM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote: 1') Would it be possible to have access to the very last commit before the stable version? The last commit might always change before it is released, so i don't really see why you want that. You can talk to me if your ticket

Re: [sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
2014-04-24 16:10 UTC+02:00, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com: On Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:48:19 PM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote: 1') Would it be possible to have access to the very last commit before the stable version? The last commit might always change before it is released, so i don't

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git merge: good practice

2014-04-24 Thread kcrisman
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:43:05 AM UTC-4, Robert Bradshaw wrote: Also, ccache is your friend if you want to cut compile times a lot here (and elsewhere). With regard to which, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/14372 for the opportunity to actually document this somewhere in the

[sage-devel] Re: Difficulty with Galois group

2014-04-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, 19 April 2014 11:46:21 UTC+1, KnS wrote: Hello sage-devel: I am trying to prepare a notebook for a SAGE demo at my institute. In rying to compute the Galois group, I am stuck here. SAGE complains that I have to install KASH while I already have KASH installed. sage: K.a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: script that changes source code

2014-04-24 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:01:07 PM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote: The point is that #16216 modifies 179 files (9.2% of the files in Sage source code) in a somewhat trivial way. I am pretty sure that we can not avoid merge conflicts. The real question is: what is the best strategy for it to

Re: [sage-devel] moved wiki.sagemath.org to vm

2014-04-24 Thread Keith Clawson
Ok, I installed docutils and the page renders correctly now. -Keith On Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:42:20 AM UTC-7, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: Hi Keith! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 01:31:07PM -0700, Keith Clawson wrote: I just finished moving wiki.sagemath.org from boxen to a

[sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Christian Stump
Hi, I just pulled the newest develop version and did make start. Now, I get the error below. Am I again doing something wrong here? Thanks for your help, Christian --- -- stumpc5@stumpc5:~/progs/sage$ sage

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Why using make start instead of make? 2014-04-24 21:56 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com: Hi, I just pulled the newest develop version and did make start. Now, I get the error below. Am I again doing something wrong here? Thanks for your help, Christian

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Christian Stump
Why using make start instead of make? (doing it currently, but it takes some time.) I thought that's the same, except that I save the time of building the documentation. Isn't that right? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Christian Stump
Why using make start instead of make? (doing it currently, but it takes some time.) I thought that's the same, except that I save the time of building the documentation. Isn't that right? okay, it finished -- but the error on startup remained... any ideas? Thanks again, Christian --

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hi Christian, Please, put the log somewhere accessible to everybody. From which version did you upgrade? Sometimes, the build system is not smart enough and it is needed to do a make distclean and then make... i.e. rebuilding Sage from scratch. 2014-04-24 22:34 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Christian Stump
Please, put the log somewhere accessible to everybody. From which version did you upgrade? Sometimes, the build system is not smart enough and it is needed to do a make distclean and then make... i.e. rebuilding Sage from scratch. Thanks for your help! I attach the report -- I

Re: [sage-devel] 6.2.rc0 crashed on startup

2014-04-24 Thread Christian Stump
Thanks for your help! I attach the report -- I upgraded from 6.2.beta4 if I remember right. I will redo the make, but that will take until tomorrow morning... I just typed the last line of the crash report into google and see that it was discussed before in sage-release: