[sage-devel] Re: TOPCOM on OSX 10.9.2

2014-05-09 Thread Oskar Till
Maybe I should try and build from source then. How do I uninstall the version I have now, is it enough to just drag the Applications/sage folder into the trash? /Oskar On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:24:01 AM UTC+2, Oskar Till wrote: Just as I got my sage to work with topcom on my old laptop, I

Re: [sage-devel] TOPCOM on OSX 10.9.2

2014-05-09 Thread Michael Welsh
On 9/05/2014, at 2005, Oskar Till oskar.e.t...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I should try and build from source then. How do I uninstall the version I have now, is it enough to just drag the Applications/sage folder into the trash? Yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, Le 06/05/2014 19:39, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : On 2014-05-06 16:53, John Cremona wrote: In practice, it may be hard to gather the informatino on how much RAM tests take You could run them under ulimit -v and see when they start to fail. But personally, I don't consider RAM usage by

Re: [sage-devel] RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-05-09 10:55, Julien Puydt wrote: But personally, I don't consider RAM usage by doctests an issue. Perhaps because you don't use old or limited computers? No, because I think that doctest coverage is more important than memory usage of doctests. It is perfectly possible to *use* Sage

[sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread leif
Anne Schilling wrote: We actually added tests for our k-Schur function book. But a lot of time, when syntax in Sage changes, these tests just get replaced by others without checking with the authors of the book/paper. git log src/sage/tests/book_schilling_zabrocki_kschur_primer.py | grep

Re: [sage-devel] RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread mmarco
Well, testing, for instance, if everything runs in an ARM machine can be painful. And if we want to deliver ARM binaries, we need to test everything there. El viernes, 9 de mayo de 2014 13:04:20 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer escribió: On 2014-05-09 10:55, Julien Puydt wrote: But personally, I

Re: [sage-devel] RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-05-09 13:41, mmarco wrote: And if we want to deliver ARM binaries, we need to test everything there. This does not have to be the case. In fact, at some point we had Solaris and OS X PPC binaries even though not everything was working 100% on those platforms. If there are a few files

Re: [sage-devel] RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Volker Braun
We do have a arm machine in Oxford with more than enough ram (afair 4GB). Dima did some work on finishing the arm port. In any case, its not a ram issue. On Friday, May 9, 2014 1:41:44 PM UTC+2, mmarco wrote: Well, testing, for instance, if everything runs in an ARM machine can be

[sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, May 9, 2014 1:40:51 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: Probably each relevant file should contain a CAPSLOCK header with information on how to contact the author(s) etc. DEAR SIR WE HAVE RECENTLY COME INTO POSSESSION OF THIS EXTREMELY VALUABLE DOCTEST FOR WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO ENLIST YOUR

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread David Loeffler
It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the original author and waiting a year in order to add

[sage-devel] Re: RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread leif
Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-05-09 10:55, Julien Puydt wrote: But personally, I don't consider RAM usage by doctests an issue. Perhaps because you don't use old or limited computers? No, because I think that doctest coverage is more important than memory usage of doctests. It is perfectly

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-05-09 14:08, leif wrote: And probably some build- or patchbots should run the tests with 'ulimit -v $SAGE_DOCTEST_MEMORY_CUTOFF' by default. Totally +1. I always did that with a limit of 2.5GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-05-09 14:08, David Loeffler wrote: It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the

[sage-devel] Re: interact.sagemath.org

2014-05-09 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/7/14, 0:41, Ivan Andrus wrote: On May 6, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 5/5/14, 14:20, Daniel Bell wrote: Hi I am one of the students who was selected for working with Sage for Google Summer of Code. I will be working on the iOS app. One of the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there a way to make two_squares faster ? (it uses the interface with GAP)

2014-05-09 Thread John Cremona
On 8 May 2014 20:39, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: John Cremona wrote: On 8 May 2014 09:30, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be mailto:jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: If I'm not mistaken, the problem of writing N as a^2 + b^2 is equivalent to finding a square root of -1 modulo

[sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread leif
David Loeffler wrote: It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the original author and waiting

[sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread leif
Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-05-09 14:08, David Loeffler wrote: It's happened a few times that people have put tests in the sage/tests directory which explicitly require that certain inputs return NotImplementedError, or something similar. Surely we shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole

[sage-devel] Re: MacOS X binary dists and newer versions of Xcode

2014-05-09 Thread leif
leif wrote: Should we put up signs telling people not to use the MacOS X pre-built binaries (or the MacOS X app) with Xcode versions = 5.x? Apparently the deployment targets currently compiled into Sage's GCC (on the MacOS X buildslave[s]) don't work with more recent versions of Xcode (5.x? or

[sage-devel] Testing the pickle jar more thoroughly (many objects in it are broken after unpickling)

2014-05-09 Thread Peter Bruin
Hello sage-dev, While working on something else, I found out that although there is a doctest that unpickles all objects in the pickle jar, it does not do any kind of sanity check on the resulting objects. This means that unpickling many of these objects has become completely broken over

[sage-devel] Re: RAM to build Sage

2014-05-09 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-05-09, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: We do have a arm machine in Oxford with more than enough ram (afair 4GB). Dima did some work on finishing the arm port. In any case, its not a ram issue. indeed. Please review :) http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15921 On Friday, May

[sage-devel] Re: MacOS X binary dists and newer versions of Xcode

2014-05-09 Thread Volker Braun
The OSX 10.9 buildbot should have the latest xcode, or at least at most 1-2 months old. Definitely = 5.x. On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:36:43 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: Should we put up signs telling people not to use the MacOS X pre-built binaries (or the MacOS X app) with Xcode versions = 5.x?

[sage-devel] Re: Testing the pickle jar more thoroughly (many objects in it are broken after unpickling)

2014-05-09 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, May 9, 2014 5:57:09 PM UTC+2, Peter Bruin wrote: I just opened a ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16311, but I thought I'd also send a message to sage-devel to advertise the fact that we can't rely on that doctest to ensure backwards compatibility of our unpickling

[sage-devel] Re: MacOS X binary dists and newer versions of Xcode

2014-05-09 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: The OSX 10.9 buildbot should have the latest xcode, or at least at most 1-2 months old. Definitely = 5.x. So such issues will vanish with the Sage 6.2+ MacOS X binaries (provided MacOS X users with recent versions of Xcode use recent [pre-built] versions of Sage as

[sage-devel] Re: Testing the pickle jar more thoroughly (many objects in it are broken after unpickling)

2014-05-09 Thread Peter Bruin
Hi Volker, On Friday, May 9, 2014 5:57:09 PM UTC+2, Peter Bruin wrote: I just opened a ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16311, but I thought I'd also send a message to sage-devel to advertise the fact that we can't rely on that doctest to ensure backwards compatibility of our

Re: [sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread Anne Schilling
On 5/9/14 4:40 AM, leif wrote: Anne Schilling wrote: We actually added tests for our k-Schur function book. But a lot of time, when syntax in Sage changes, these tests just get replaced by others without checking with the authors of the book/paper. git log

[sage-devel] Re: tests related to papers and books

2014-05-09 Thread leif
Anne Schilling wrote: On 5/9/14 4:40 AM, leif wrote: Anne Schilling wrote: We actually added tests for our k-Schur function book. But a lot of time, when syntax in Sage changes, these tests just get replaced by others without checking with the authors of the book/paper. git log

[sage-devel] Re: sage--gram-schmidt

2014-05-09 Thread Jason Grout
(CCd to sage-devel) On 5/9/14, 13:32, David Guichard wrote: Is there some deep reason I'm not seeing that G-S doesn't work for SR? It seems like everything should be fine. Is the problem in detecting dependent sets over SR? This keeps me from being able to do simple examples for a linear

[sage-devel] Docs not building on 6.2

2014-05-09 Thread Kannappan Sampath
Hi group: I have been trying to build the doc for SAGE 6.2 on a Mac OSX 10.9.2. The doc build always stops at: [tensor ] writing output... [ 75%] sage/tensor/differential_form_element [tensor ] writing output... [100%] sage/tensor/differential_forms [tensor ] dumping object inventory...

[sage-devel] Re: Docs not building on 6.2

2014-05-09 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
FTR, that is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/QP34tOWDw-0 and it's on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (quad core Intel) laptop. On Friday, May 9, 2014 12:37:30 PM UTC-7, KnS wrote: Hi group: I have been trying to build the doc for SAGE 6.2 on a Mac OSX 10.9.2. The doc build always

[sage-devel] Re: MacOS X binary dists and newer versions of Xcode

2014-05-09 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-05-09, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: Volker Braun wrote: The OSX 10.9 buildbot should have the latest xcode, or at least at most 1-2 months old. Definitely = 5.x. So such issues will vanish with the Sage 6.2+ MacOS X binaries (provided MacOS X users with recent versions of Xcode

[sage-devel] How to update trac branch after rebasing?

2014-05-09 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
Hello, I've rebased a branch on top of 6.2, which went fine (branch just adds a file), but then I couldn't push it via git push ... or git trac push with git insisting that I have to pull. While that worked, it automatically created an empty (=no files have changed) merge commit listing all my

Re: [sage-devel] How to update trac branch after rebasing?

2014-05-09 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 05/09/2014 07:10 PM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: Hello, I've rebased a branch on top of 6.2, which went fine (branch just adds a file), but then I couldn't push it via git push ... or git trac push with git insisting that I have to pull. While that worked, it automatically created an empty

Re: [sage-devel] How to update trac branch after rebasing?

2014-05-09 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
On Friday, 9 May 2014 17:37:02 UTC-6, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 05/09/2014 07:10 PM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: Hello, I've rebased a branch on top of 6.2, which went fine (branch just adds a file), but then I couldn't push it via git push ... or git trac push with git insisting

Re: [sage-devel] How to update trac branch after rebasing?

2014-05-09 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
On Friday, 9 May 2014 17:49:58 UTC-6, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 17:37:02 UTC-6, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 05/09/2014 07:10 PM, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: Hello, I've rebased a branch on top of 6.2, which went fine (branch just adds a file), but then I