Re: [sage-devel] Re: survey ==> Python3

2016-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 9:07 PM, rjf wrote: > Maybe flamebait .. see below. No -- it seems that you might be a little ignorant about the culture and development of Python. You might try a google search for python2 python3 -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You

Re: [sage-devel] Re: survey ==> Python3

2016-07-24 Thread rjf
Maybe flamebait .. see below. The decision was made to use Python ( 1?) for whatever reasons were articulated at the time. Apparently there is an issue with backward compatibility requiring rewriting of code. I don't know this first hand. A more-or-less formal language definition for the

[sage-devel] No longer able to build 7.2 or 7.3 betas on Mac OS X El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Paul Masson
In an effort to get past a recurring issue for reviewing Trac #21034, I did "make distclean" followed by "make". Now I am no longer able to build Sage as I have been doing for the last couple months, either the master or develop branch. This is the error message I keep getting: * package:

[sage-devel] Connect to sage kernel

2016-07-24 Thread Sarfo
Hi, Please, may I know how to connect to the sage kernel? I have tried my way around sage.repl.interpreter without success. (Scanty information in documentation) Or do I have to call it from my shell and redirect sys.stdout? Trying out some GUI I have built Thanks -- You received this

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion to interfaces

2016-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/07/16 05:13, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> I believe that the work on libGAP interface might better wait for GAP >> folks to come up with their own libGAP. They refused to merge "our" >> libGAP, and they

Re: [sage-devel] Re: survey ==> Python3

2016-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 5:22 PM, rjf wrote: > And then, in a few years Python 4? > Perhaps there is a lesson here? Are don't understand what you're saying. Is this flame bait? I can't tell. William -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you

[sage-devel] Re: survey ==> Python3

2016-07-24 Thread rjf
And then, in a few years Python 4? Perhaps there is a lesson here? RJF On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > Hi, > > We recently did a survey with a question about why people choose (or > would choose) something else instead of Sage. There are definitely > some

[sage-devel] Trac attachment limit

2016-07-24 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
Is there any deep reason to 2MB attachment limit on Trac? Can it be increased to, say, 100MB? Would be convenient to be able to upload new packages there rather than figuring out some place to post them. Thank you, Andrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [sage-devel] Coercion to interfaces

2016-07-24 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 24/07/16 05:13, Dima Pasechnik wrote: I believe that the work on libGAP interface might better wait for GAP folks to come up with their own libGAP. They refused to merge "our" libGAP, and they say they have their own version in the works, which they need to create a Jupyter kernel for GAP.

[sage-devel] survey ==> Python3

2016-07-24 Thread William Stein
Hi, We recently did a survey with a question about why people choose (or would choose) something else instead of Sage. There are definitely some people who are deeply concerned by our lack of Python3 support in Sage. So, based purely on some user feedback, I would just like to add a little

[sage-devel] Coercion to interfaces

2016-07-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I believe that the work on libGAP interface might better wait for GAP folks to come up with their own libGAP. They refused to merge "our" libGAP, and they say they have their own version in the works, which they need to create a Jupyter kernel for GAP. Dima -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Randomized testing gives many errors

2016-07-24 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016, Volker Braun wrote: At the same time there is some value to testing seed-dependent ordering; Sure, it is an implementation detail, but it does help catch errors if you change something in the code. And sometimes you must make a choice, e.g. when iterating over an infinite

[sage-devel] Re: Randomized testing gives many errors

2016-07-24 Thread Volker Braun
At the same time there is some value to testing seed-dependent ordering; Sure, it is an implementation detail, but it does help catch errors if you change something in the code. And sometimes you must make a choice, e.g. when iterating over an infinite set. So before you go around and delete

[sage-devel] Randomized testing gives many errors

2016-07-24 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
One example only: ./sage -t --randorder 0 src/sage/modular/modform_hecketriangle/hecke_triangle_group_element.py is OK, but same with --randorder 1 gives one error, and with --randorder 21739 gives three errors. This not at all the only example. I think that patchbot maintainers should use