[sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

2022-10-06 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Starting now: Calls for Americas / Asia-Pacific region: (everyone is welcome) Thursday evening, 7:15pm Oakland (California) Thursday evening, 10:15pm New York Friday afternoon, 2:15pm Auckland (New Zealand) Friday morning, 11:15 Tokyo https://meet.jit.si/WellMixesPictureThere

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 7:05:38 AM UTC+9 John H Palmieri wrote: > Dima, presumably you're not talking about me, although I proposed that "we > start a vote around October 1". > I guess he means: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/33725#comment:26 -- You received this message because

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 3:05:38 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > Anyway, the point of having a policy is so that we don't have to concern > ourselves with the motives of the people requesting the delay or anything > else: we would just handle the request as our policy dictates. > +1.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread John H Palmieri
Dima, presumably you're not talking about me, although I proposed that "we start a vote around October 1". Anyway, the point of having a policy is so that we don't have to concern ourselves with the motives of the people requesting the delay or anything else: we would just handle the request

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, 6 Oct 2022, 20:21 Jonathan Thornburg, wrote: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:45 AM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > There is nothing in our department's bylaws to provide for a delay of > > voting, but we have a chair and we have an executive committee, and the > > hope is that they care not

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:45 AM John H Palmieri wrote: > There is nothing in our department's bylaws to provide for a delay of > voting, but we have a chair and we have an executive committee, and the > hope is that they care not only about the particular issue at hand, but > also about the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I hope we don't introduce something akin to the US Senate filibuster :-) On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:26 PM William Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:45 AM John H Palmieri wrote: > > Hi William, > > There is nothing in our department's bylaws to provide for a delay of > > voting, but we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:45 AM John H Palmieri wrote: > Hi William, > There is nothing in our department's bylaws to provide for a delay of voting, > but we have a chair and we have an executive committee, and the hope is that > they care not only about the particular issue at hand, but also

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread John H Palmieri
Hi William, There is nothing in our department's bylaws to provide for a delay of voting, but we have a chair and we have an executive committee, and the hope is that they care not only about the particular issue at hand, but also about the atmosphere in the department. So if someone asked for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread kcrisman
> If we limit such powers, e.g. allowing just one delaying request per year > per person, then another vote can be called on a slightly different > question, effectively overruling the delaying request. > Whether two requests are two similar is the sort of thing a parliamentarian decides in

[sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread kcrisman
several developers asked for delays, to respect people with a busy > schedule, > [6] Thierry : "one month break is a bare minimum." > https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/ayOL8_bzOfk/m/STo_AT9qFgAJ > > In general I am very sympathetic to having "all deliberate speed" on big decisions

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-06 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I don't think it is feasible to design a system to delay voting. If we don't limit the delaying powers of participants, effectively every vote can be put off indefinitely. If we limit such powers, e.g. allowing just one delaying request per year per person, then another vote can be called on a