[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-24 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Jack Dyson wrote: > Hi William, > installed the docker version - exciting stuff - just brilliant! > thanks. We need this "sagewide" asap really. Be looking into it as I > understand more. > small question when you have a moment: > docker

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-24 Thread Jack Dyson
ok cheers Harald ! On 24 November 2016 at 11:49, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jack Dyson wrote: >> >> any idea ? > > > > The error is: NoSuchKernel: No such kernel named ir > > That means, that the "ir" kernel for R (and

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Jack Dyson wrote: > any idea ? ​The error is: NoSuchKernel: No such kernel named ir ​ That means, that the "ir" kernel for R (and many others) aren't available in that image. I mean, you're running a local version of smc with some

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-24 Thread Jack Dyson
Hi William, installed the docker version - exciting stuff - just brilliant! thanks. We need this "sagewide" asap really. Be looking into it as I understand more. small question when you have a moment: docker starts correctly, everything works-I have SMC locally but I can't get in sage dedicated

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 03:54:18PM -0800, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: >Actually, since version 7.3, Sage is shipped with a migration tool >sagenb --> Jupyter, developed by Volker (cf. #19877). Indeed! Thanks you (and Jeroen as well) for making my mentions more explicit. For a smooth

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-11-23 22:46, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: I have been using Jupyter locally for my teaching since two years, and am very happy with it. The only missing features have been migration tool from sagenb and interacts; both are on their way. For interacts, see

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Jack Dyson
Thanks I will! enough there to think about already ! J PS nteract looks cool On 24 November 2016 at 00:07, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Jack Dyson wrote: >> Right cheers for that William! will give it a go, hopefully we'll have

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi Nicolas, Le mercredi 23 novembre 2016 22:46:34 UTC+1, Nicolas M. Thiéry a écrit : > > > I have been using Jupyter locally for my teaching since two years, and > am very happy with it. The only missing features have been migration > tool from sagenb and interacts; both are on their way. > >

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Jack Dyson wrote: > Right cheers for that William! will give it a go, hopefully we'll have it as > standard at some point soon. If you do want to work on that, some thoughts: - There is a "painful" dependency on RethinkDB, which is a C++

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Jack Dyson
Right cheers for that William! will give it a go, hopefully we'll have it as standard at some point soon. Best from here, J On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 10:00:05 PM UTC+1, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald > wrote: > > > > Hi >

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Jack Dyson wrote: > Hi Dima, > > Thankyou for your quick reply - I appreciate what you said about development > of sagenb as a whole, and actually I do see the point. > > Logically therefore, as you indicate, iPython is a good alternative. >

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 9:29:44 PM UTC, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > On 23 November 2016 at 22:59, William Stein > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald > > wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> > >> > On 23 November 2016 at 22:05,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:11:02PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote: >Would jupyter be a possible replacement for sagenb if sagenb is >discontinued from active development? Is it already on a stand-alone >sagemath install? I have been using Jupyter locally for my teaching since two years,

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > On 23 November 2016 at 22:59, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> > >> > On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 23 November 2016 at 22:59, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> > >> > >> I understand that opinions on usability

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> I understand that opinions on usability of >> https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/tree/newui >> diverge. (and with the breakneck

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:11:27 PM UTC, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> >> I understand that opinions on usability of >> https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/tree/newui >> diverge. (and with the breakneck

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-11-23 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I understand that opinions on usability of https://github.com/ > sagemath/sagenb/tree/newui > diverge. (and with the breakneck speed javascript > frameworks are developed, one may ask whether something written in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-18 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 4:15 PM, William Stein wrote: > -1 to moving the sagenb code back into the sage git repo. The day I > removed sagenb from the sage git repo was, for me, a very happy day. > > But +1 for having people who care have the ability to push to the repo > on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-04-15 22:46, Dima Pasechnik wrote: it does not quite work outside Sage tree. Of course not. SageNB depends on Sage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 8:56:54 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-04-15 21:53, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Why not? You haven't answered this question. > > > > Does sagenb run without Sage now? > No, it needs Sage > Python packages can have dependencies, so the fact that it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 16/04/2016, at 07:56, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Python packages can have dependencies, so the fact that it needs Sage does > not imply that "it's not a proper Python package". +1 sageNB has effectively been an optional package in sage-on-gentoo until I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-04-15 21:53, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Why not? You haven't answered this question. Does sagenb run without Sage now? No, it needs Sage. Python packages can have dependencies, so the fact that it needs Sage does not imply that "it's not a proper Python package". -- You received

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 8:42:59 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-04-15 21:31, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > not a proper Python package. > > Why not? You haven't answered this question. > Does sagenb run without Sage now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-04-15 21:31, Dima Pasechnik wrote: not a proper Python package. Why not? You haven't answered this question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 7:45:10 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-04-15 19:11, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I can try to make it into a proper Python package, instead of going > > forward with #14840. > > Why do you think that #14840 does not "make it a proper Python package"??? >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-04-15 19:11, Dima Pasechnik wrote: I can try to make it into a proper Python package, instead of going forward with #14840. Why do you think that #14840 does not "make it a proper Python package"??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 4:13:57 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-04-15 16:15, William Stein wrote: > > But +1 for having people who care have the ability to push to the repo > > on github and generally take over maintenance. > > Any volunteers? If there is indeed somebody who

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-04-15 16:15, William Stein wrote: But +1 for having people who care have the ability to push to the repo on github and generally take over maintenance. Any volunteers? If there is indeed somebody who is seriously willing to manage SageNB, that would be a good solution. However, by

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread William Stein
-1 to moving the sagenb code back into the sage git repo. The day I removed sagenb from the sage git repo was, for me, a very happy day. But +1 for having people who care have the ability to push to the repo on github and generally take over maintenance. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:13 AM, William

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Who does have commit access to https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb ? > (not me). > Karl is obviously overwhelmed with other things. > If I had this access I could have reviewed at least some of these tickets > (we still

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Re: Proposal: move SageNB back to Sage

2016-04-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Who does have commit access to https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb ? (not me). Karl is obviously overwhelmed with other things. If I had this access I could have reviewed at least some of these tickets (we still would want to keep upstream on github, right?) Dima On Friday, April 15, 2016 at