[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/17/12 8:14 PM, François Bissey wrote: Let's not get out of focus here. Switching to stuff like sage-on-gentoo (on a prefix) or lmonade is in the future. We need to get it running properly first. The present is the fate of the twisted spkg. Thanks for bringing us back around. We've posted

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread François Bissey
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:04:23 Keshav Kini wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 04:59, Julien Puydt wrote: > > This is something I have noticed : on the other hand, having spkg means > > that to share some experimental code with inexperienced people, it's > > just a single file to transmit, and it will

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/17/12 8:04 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: Burcin's lmonade ( http://lmona.de/ ) is doing something similar, but with Gentoo Prefix instead of Gentoo (so that you can run it on other distros). And it looks like the focus of lmonade is broader than Sage, by the way (just guessing from what I see on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Keshav Kini
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 04:59, Julien Puydt wrote: > This is something I have noticed : on the other hand, having spkg means that > to share some experimental code with inexperienced people, it's just a > single file to transmit, and it will mostly just work. This is good, and > must stay! > > On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 17/01/2012 21:10, Jason Grout a écrit : On 1/17/12 2:04 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 20:54, Jason Grout a écrit : On 1/17/12 1:38 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 15:33, Jason Grout a écrit : If we separate out twisted on principle, it seems like we should separate out the ot

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/17/12 2:04 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 20:54, Jason Grout a écrit : On 1/17/12 1:38 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 15:33, Jason Grout a écrit : If we separate out twisted on principle, it seems like we should separate out the other 13 dependent packages that are included.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 17/01/2012 20:54, Jason Grout a écrit : On 1/17/12 1:38 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 15:33, Jason Grout a écrit : If we separate out twisted on principle, it seems like we should separate out the other 13 dependent packages that are included. That's a maintenance burden I can't take

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/17/12 1:38 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 17/01/2012 15:33, Jason Grout a écrit : If we separate out twisted on principle, it seems like we should separate out the other 13 dependent packages that are included. That's a maintenance burden I can't take on right now. Are those heavily patched w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 17/01/2012 15:33, Jason Grout a écrit : If we separate out twisted on principle, it seems like we should separate out the other 13 dependent packages that are included. That's a maintenance burden I can't take on right now. Are those heavily patched with respect to upstream? Snark on #sagem

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/17/12 1:44 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2012-01-16 23:36, jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Please vote: [ ] Yes, remove the twisted spkg and include twisted in the sagenb spkg as a dependency [X] No, keep the twisted spkg as a separate spkg I dislike putting everything into one big sp

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
[X ] Yes, remove the twisted spkg and include twisted in the sagenb spkg as a dependency. and please go for the 2 spkg's model, as discussed here. On Tuesday, 17 January 2012 06:36:50 UTC+8, jason wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > We don't apply any customizations to twisted anymore; we just install i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread Keshav Kini
+1. I vote to put Twisted as a dependency inside sagenb, and to maintain two SPKGs for sagenb. Not "sagenb" and "sagenb-dependencies", but "sagenb" and a bare "sagenb" which downloads dependencies automatically from the cheese shop or wherever. As François says, this would be good for sage-on-g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread François Bissey
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:42:06 Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/16/12 5:09 PM, François Bissey wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:01:00 Jason Grout wrote: > >> On 1/16/12 4:53 PM, François Bissey wrote: > >>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:36:50 jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > > W

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/16/12 5:09 PM, François Bissey wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:01:00 Jason Grout wrote: On 1/16/12 4:53 PM, François Bissey wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:36:50 jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Hi everyone, We don't apply any customizations to twisted anymore; we just install it straight

Re: [sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread François Bissey
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:01:00 Jason Grout wrote: > On 1/16/12 4:53 PM, François Bissey wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:36:50 jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> We don't apply any customizations to twisted anymore; we just install > >> it > >> straight as a python packa

[sage-devel] Re: twisted spkg

2012-01-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/16/12 4:53 PM, François Bissey wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:36:50 jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Hi everyone, We don't apply any customizations to twisted anymore; we just install it straight as a python package. I think it would be easier to just include it in the sagenb spkg as a d