Re: [sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-09 Thread Markus Wageringel
Thank you for reporting this problem. I have opened https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31367 for it and will provide a fix there shortly. Akos M schrieb am Montag, 8. Februar 2021 um 11:42:59 UTC+1: > It seems that unfortunately the problem persists for multivariate rings as > well: > > A. =

Re: [sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-08 Thread Samuel Lelievre
For reference this is also asked on Ask Sage: https://ask.sagemath.org/question/55618 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-08 Thread Akos M
It seems that unfortunately the problem persists for multivariate rings as well: A. = QQ[] B. = QQ[] H = B.quotient(B.ideal([B.2])) f = A.hom([H.0, H.1], H) f f.kernel() Ring morphism: From: Multivariate Polynomial Ring in t, u over Rational Field To: Quotient of Multivariate Polynomial

Re: [sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-08 Thread Dima Pasechnik
A wild guess would be that it's due to univariate and multivariate rings handled by different backends in Sage, one sees this kinds of corner cases errors. On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:06 AM John Cremona wrote: > > It looks like a bug to me. f.kernel() expands to >

Re: [sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-08 Thread John Cremona
It looks like a bug to me. f.kernel() expands to f._inverse_image_ideal(f.codomain().zero_ideal()) and f.codomain().zero_ideal() looks OK so the problem must be in the inverse image. The author is apparently Simon King (2011). Simon, can you help? John On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 09:20, Akos M

[sage-devel] possible bug: kernel of ring homomorphism

2021-02-08 Thread Akos M
Hi, I'm not sure whether this is a bug or not, but the kernel of a ring homomorphism to a quotient ring gives unexpected results: A. = QQ[] B. = QQ[] H = B.quotient(B.ideal([B.1])) f = A.hom([H.0], H) f f.kernel() outputs: Ring morphism: From: Univariate Polynomial Ring in t over