[sage-combinat-devel] problem installing sage-combinat from sage 4.1.1 on Mac OS 10.4

2009-09-02 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I followed the instructions from http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat/Installation and ran into a problem (see below for the dump) when installing the patches on top of a mint 4.1.1. The folder that is looked after doesn't exist (actually, not even /Users/Shared/sage , my install folder is

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: problem installing sage-combinat from sage 4.1.1 on Mac OS 10.4

2009-09-02 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:56:02AM -0700, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: I followed the instructions from http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat/Installation and ran into a problem (see below for the dump) when installing the patches on top of a mint 4.1.1. The folder that is looked after doesn't

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: problem installing sage-combinat from sage 4.1.1 on Mac OS 10.4

2009-09-02 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I followed the instructions from http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat/Installation and ran into a problem (see below for the dump) when installing the patches on top of a mint 4.1.1. The folder that is looked after doesn't exist (actually, not even /Users/Shared/sage , my install folder

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Boothby wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Robert Bradshawrober...@math.washington.edu wrote: As for the question at hand, I'm personally not convinced this is useful enough to merit another departure from pure Python. It also risks turning the valid Python expression x!=120 into

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Em, I thought I'd try this in Mathematica In[1]:= 5! Out[1]= 120 In[2]:= 5!! Out[2]= 15 In[3]:= 5!!! Out[3]= 1307674368000 In[4]:= 5 Out[4]= 2027025 In[5]:= 5! spends a long time doing whatever it is trying to compute. Anyone

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Em, I thought I'd try this in Mathematica In[1]:= 5! Out[1]= 120 In[2]:= 5!! Out[2]= 15 In[3]:= 5!!! Out[3]= 1307674368000 In[4]:= 5 Out[4]= 2027025 In[5]:= 5! spends a long time doing whatever it is trying to compute.

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Em, I thought I'd try this in Mathematica In[1]:= 5! Out[1]= 120 In[2]:= 5!! Out[2]= 15 In[3]:= 5!!! Out[3]= 1307674368000 In[4]:= 5 Out[4]= 2027025 In[5]:= 5! spends a long time doing whatever it is trying to compute.

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Em, I thought I'd try this in Mathematica In[1]:= 5! Out[1]= 120 In[2]:= 5!! Out[2]= 15 In[3]:= 5!!! Out[3]= 1307674368000 In[4]:= 5 Out[4]= 2027025 In[5]:= 5!

[sage-devel] Error in installation

2009-09-02 Thread Balkrishna
I get the following error message when i execute make in the sage source folder : g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D__GMP_WITHIN_GMPXX -I.. -m32 -O2 - fomit-frame-pointer -mtune=pentium3 -march=pentium3 -c isfuns.cc - fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/isfuns.o In file included from isfuns.cc:26:

[sage-devel] Re: Building problems on Intel Mac

2009-09-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:45 AM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP This is a known problem. You can get around it by commenting out the line that imports cliquer in devel/sage/sage/graphs/all.py That's what I did for the OS X 64-bit binary that is posted. After some

[sage-devel] Re: whither the KAIST mirror?

2009-09-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 2, 4:12 am, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Does anybody know what happened to the KAIST mirror? I haven't heard anything from them and have no idea. The mirror manager script checks all mirrors every 10 minutes and looks, if it is online and the timestamp is correct. You can see its

[sage-devel] Re: Building problems on Intel Mac

2009-09-02 Thread Simon King
Hi Minh, On Sep 2, 8:41 am, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] After some experimentation and reading, I got Sage 4.1.1 to build in 64-bit mode under OS X 10.5.8. I used Michael Abshoff's custom-built Fortran spkg as documented at http://wiki.sagemath.org/osx64 I have written

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Simon King
Hi! On Sep 2, 7:40 am, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Wow, that seems totally ambiguous.  Is 5!!! equal to (5!!)! or (5!)!! or ((5!)!)!  The notation is pretty bad in this case. [...] Yes, and this is why the very common notation 5! is bad syntax that should be avoided in a

[sage-devel] Meeting Groupe Thématique Logiciel Libr e, Ile de France

2009-09-02 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi all, On Thursday 10th, the Groupe Thématique Logiciel Libre Île-de-France (a task force whose purpose is to foster the open source software ecosystem, in Paris and around) organizes a gathering of the actors of open source, developers and companies. Their goal is to let multi-partner

[sage-devel] Re: Meeting Groupe Thématique Logiciel Libre, Ile de France

2009-09-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Nicolas, 2009/9/2 Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr: SNIP Suggestions? Standard slides anyone for such a presentation? Project ideas for such services? Perhaps the talks wiki page can help: http://wiki.sagemath.org/Talks William Stein has delivered many such talks:

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 at 11:42PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote: If we support the ! notation, we should either have x!! == (x!)! or, preferably, x!!..! be the multi factorial (not limiting ourselves to single and double). I study combinatorics, and I'm fine with *not* supporting ! notation.

[sage-devel] Re: whither the KAIST mirror?

2009-09-02 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 at 01:04AM -0700, Harald Schilly wrote: On Sep 2, 4:12 am, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Does anybody know what happened to the KAIST mirror? I haven't heard anything from them and have no idea. The mirror manager script checks all mirrors every 10 minutes and looks,

[sage-devel] Dangerous mixing of different domains for symbolic variables

2009-09-02 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, This is from sage-support On Sep 1, 11:35 pm, Mani chandra mchan...@iitk.ac.in wrote: sage: x = a + I*b sage: real(x.conjugate().simplify()) real_part(a) + imag_part(b) sage: real(x.conjugate()) real_part(a) - imag_part(b) - This seems to be happening because maxima(via

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread David Kirkby
2009/9/2 Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu: On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 at 11:42PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote: If we support the ! notation, we should either have x!! == (x!)! or, preferably, x!!..! be the multi factorial (not limiting ourselves to single and double). I study combinatorics, and I'm fine

[sage-devel] Re: New graphics axes and gridlines

2009-09-02 Thread kcrisman
Anyway, thanks again for all of your hard work on this!  Sage has come a long ways because of it. +1. As thick as the web of the current plot code is, the actual functioning is very good in nearly all normal cases, as witness how picky we can afford to be with matplotlib; doing that from

[sage-devel] Re: Meeting Groupe Thématique Logiciel Libre, Ile de France

2009-09-02 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 07:09:17PM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi Nicolas, 2009/9/2 Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr: SNIP Suggestions? Standard slides anyone for such a presentation? Project ideas for such services? Perhaps the talks wiki page can help:

[sage-devel] Re: whither the KAIST mirror?

2009-09-02 Thread Dan Drake
Okay, some of their hardware went south: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:39:24 +0900 From: 신재호 jaeho.s...@gmail To: Dan Drake dr...@kaist Subject: Re: ftp.kaist.ac.kr mirror of sagemath.org not working Hi Dan, These are known problems, and we are working on them. One of our disks has failed

[sage-devel] Re: How do I apply a patch or clean up a repository?

2009-09-02 Thread Stan Schymanski
Sorry, please disregard my previous message. I just found the following plastered all over my terminal window: WARNING: Make sure to create a ~/.hgrc file: -- [ui] username = William Stein wst...@gmail.com

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread kcrisman
But clearly Mathemaitca shows there is some ambiguity about how multiple exclamation marks are used. Yes, unfortunately math is filled with such contextual ambiguity and/ or conflicting conventions (for instance, is i an indexing integer or a root of -1?). I'm usually all for multiple

[sage-devel] Re: Meeting Groupe Thématique Logiciel Libre, Ile de France

2009-09-02 Thread William Stein
2009/9/2 Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 07:09:17PM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi Nicolas, 2009/9/2 Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr: SNIP Suggestions? Standard slides anyone for such a presentation? Project ideas for such

[sage-devel] Re: Dangerous mixing of different domains for symbolic variables

2009-09-02 Thread kcrisman
I wonder what the OP in the previous thread has for an OS, as well as for you. That's because the code mentioned there in calculus/ calculus.py maxima = Maxima(init_code = ['display2d:false; domain: complex; keepfloat: true; load(topoly_solver)'], script_subdirectory=None)

[sage-devel] Re: CSS overflow:auto prevents printing

2009-09-02 Thread William Stein
2009/9/1 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com William Stein wrote: 2009/9/1 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com mailto:jason-s...@creativetrax.com William Stein wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com

[sage-devel] Univ of Maryland and Sage

2009-09-02 Thread William Stein
Hi Sage-Devel, Here's an encouraging email about Sage that went out to the Univ of Maryland math department yesterday. William -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Tilmes Date: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM Subject: New Mathematical software, Sage To: mathus...@math.umd.edu

[sage-devel] Re: Univ of Maryland and Sage

2009-09-02 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, Here's an encouraging email about Sage that went out to the Univ of Maryland math department yesterday. Incidentally, we were recently notified via IRC in #sage-devel that the University of Tennessee at

[sage-devel] Re: List of doctest failures in current Mandriva sagemath

2009-09-02 Thread William Stein
2009/9/1 Paulo César Pereira de Andrade paulo.cesar.pereira.de.andr...@gmail.com Hi, The package I am building uses newer versions of several components, and while I believe most of these tests probably are correct, I may be missing some patch, so, if you can confirm it is correct, or is

[sage-devel] Re: New graphics axes and gridlines

2009-09-02 Thread Stan Schymanski
Hi Jason, Thanks for the great work! Just to add to the axis labels problem you mentioned, the following does not display the y-axis label for me (in notebook): P = plot(1.5*x + 0.003,(x,0,0.075)) P.axes_labels(['$\delta_c$ (m)', '$\delta_h$ (m)']) P Changing the xmax value a little bit makes

[sage-devel] Re: Dangerous mixing of different domains for symbolic variables

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Dodier
FYI the Maxima functions conjugate, realpart/imagpart, cabs/carg have been revised recently. Maybe you can try it with the most recent version (5.19.2). For the purposes of debugging I think it's best if you use Maxima directly instead of going through Sage. On Sep 2, 5:49 am, Golam Mortuza

[sage-devel] Re: List of doctest failures in current Mandriva sagemath

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Albrecht
doc/en/constructions/rings.rst +58 sage: R = singular.ring(97, '(a,b,c,d)', 'lp') sage: I = singular.ideal(['a+b+c+d', 'ab+ad+bc+cd', 'abc+abd+acd+bcd', 'abcd-1']) sage: R Expected: // characteristic : 97 // number of vars : 4 //block 1 : ordering

[sage-devel] Fwd: Conference/workshop on Industrial Applications and Prospects of Computer Algebra

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, I just received this e-mail about a computer algebra conference in Germany in 2010. The bottomline: So let me kindly ask if you/your company/organisation basically would be interested to contribute to this event, in terms of talks, exhibitions, or financial support. It sounds

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread David Kirkby
2009/9/2 kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com: But clearly Mathemaitca shows there is some ambiguity about how multiple exclamation marks are used. Yes, unfortunately math is filled with such contextual ambiguity and/ or conflicting conventions (for instance, is i an indexing integer or a root of

[sage-devel] Re: Dangerous mixing of different domains for symbolic variables

2009-09-02 Thread kcrisman
On Sep 2, 11:02 am, Robert Dodier robert.dod...@gmail.com wrote: FYI the Maxima functions conjugate, realpart/imagpart, cabs/carg have been revised recently. Maybe you can try it with the most recent version (5.19.2). For the purposes of debugging I think it's best if you use Maxima

[sage-devel] Re: New graphics axes and gridlines

2009-09-02 Thread Jason Grout
Stan Schymanski wrote: Hi Jason, Thanks for the great work! Just to add to the axis labels problem you mentioned, the following does not display the y-axis label for me (in notebook): P = plot(1.5*x + 0.003,(x,0,0.075)) P.axes_labels(['$\delta_c$ (m)', '$\delta_h$ (m)']) P

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Tom Boothby
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: In[7]:= 5!!! Out[7]= 1307674368000 In[8]:= (5!!)! Out[8]= 1307674368000 In[9]:= 5 Out[9]= 2027025 In[10]:= (5!!)!! Out[10]= 2027025 Yuck. -1 to compatibility with this. All or nothing -- if

[sage-devel] Re: What units should process size memory be returned in?

2009-09-02 Thread gsw
Yes, I do agree that uintptr_t is a better choice. It's also part of the ISO C99's Stdint.h. Note that we only would need this latter header (or rather the type(def)s contained therein), and possibly the corresponding printf formatting magic. ISO C99 is a standard for a decade now. Even if some

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade of ECL and Maxima

2009-09-02 Thread kcrisman
Sorry to be replying to my own post, but in case you need more arguments supporting (a) above, note that upgrading the spkg's solves the issues listed at tickets #780, #3718, #6165, #6420, and #6423. And it makes #3587 look much better. Great work getting the new Maxima in! - kcrisman

[sage-devel] extension field iterator

2009-09-02 Thread YannLC
Hi all, I noticed that iterating over a finite field gives a different order depending on the implementation: sage: list(sage.rings.finite_field_prime_modn.FiniteField_prime_modn (7)) [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] sage: list(sage.rings.finite_field.FiniteField_givaro(7)) [0, 3, 2, 6, 4, 5, 1] sage:

[sage-devel] Re: Factorial syntax

2009-09-02 Thread Kwankyu
I think that a CAS without a strong programming language is nothing but a simple pocket calculator. Therefore, if a mathematical notation interferes too much with the requirements of the underlying programming language, then the mathematical notation should be dropped. I vote +1 for this

[sage-devel] Re: Dangerous mixing of different domains for symbolic variables

2009-09-02 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:13 PM, kcrismankcris...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW in order for conjugate friends to recognize variables as complex, probably it is necessary to declare them as such (i.e. declare(foo, complex)). I think domain:complex won't have the same effect. Maybe Sage is

[sage-devel] Re: extension field iterator

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, YannLC wrote: Hi all, I noticed that iterating over a finite field gives a different order depending on the implementation: sage: list(sage.rings.finite_field_prime_modn.FiniteField_prime_modn (7)) [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] sage:

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Aldor interface

2009-09-02 Thread Bill Page
Ralf, I just completed a full compile of FriCAS rev. 666 from source with ECL 9.8.4 including the Aldor interface. It finished with no problems and seems to run fine. So what is failing at the moment seems to be building the Aldor interface from a *cached lisp* distribution created with:

[sage-devel] base_ring()

2009-09-02 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Sage-support did not solicit an answer. Both of these seem wrong: Is this the intended behaviour? sage: z=1.+sqrt(-1); print z; z.base_ring() 1.00 + 1.00*I Symbolic Ring sage: z=1.+sqrt(-1.); print z; z.base_ring() 1.00 + 1.00*I Real Field

[sage-devel] Re: base_ring()

2009-09-02 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Jan Groenewald j...@aims.ac.za wrote: Hi Sage-support did not solicit an answer. Both of these seem wrong: Is this the intended behaviour? sage: z=1.+sqrt(-1); print z; z.base_ring() 1.00 + 1.00*I Symbolic Ring sage: