[sage-devel] Re: Trouble in updating to 6.4.1

2014-12-15 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:26:59 PM UTC+9, Soomin Jeon wrote: I installed sage 5.9 last year and I found that sage 6.4.1 is released. So I try to update the sage version 5.9 to 6.4.1 using the command 'sage -upgrade', however, it just upgraded the sage version to 5.13. If I want to use

[sage-devel] Re: How to make view open pdf-viewer in background

2014-12-15 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello ! I have the following lines in my ~/.sage/init.sage file from sage.misc.viewer import viewer viewer.png_viewer('google-chrome') the viewer.pdf_viewer method will let you change the default pdf viewer in Sage. It is all there:

[sage-devel] Re: How to make view open pdf-viewer in background

2014-12-15 Thread Volker Braun
I don't understand what your problem is. If xdg-open is being called then Sage is doing everything as it should. You might want to configure xdg (man xdg-settings) to open your preferred applications. On Monday, December 15, 2014 8:47:54 AM UTC+1, Martin R wrote: Hi there! I posted this

[sage-devel] Re: How to make view open pdf-viewer in background

2014-12-15 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Hi Nathann! thanks for your answer, however, I'm not sure it solves my problem: yes, it is possible to change the viewer to something else, but for some reason the viewer does not open in the background (as a process) but in the foreground. So I can't continue with experimentation without

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to make view open pdf-viewer in background

2014-12-15 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yop ! thanks for your answer, however, I'm not sure it solves my problem: yes, it is possible to change the viewer to something else, but for some reason the viewer does not open in the background (as a process) but in the foreground. So I can't continue with experimentation without closing

Re: [sage-devel] Confusing documentation in element.pyx

2014-12-15 Thread David Roe
The difference is in how cpdef functions interact with Cython vs Python classes. If you want to override a cpdef method in a *Python* subclass then you must use def (of course). But in a *Cython* subclass, you must use cpdef. If you accidentally use def instead in a Cython class then it doesn't

[sage-devel] Re: Navigating Trac and Sage

2014-12-15 Thread kcrisman
This will be more specificy than trac sage keyword1 keyword2. Maybe we should add a site-specific google search box to our trac front page? Yes, please do! Amazingly, Google's search for Trac my inefficient way is way, way better than Google's search of Google groups threads even using

[sage-devel] Problems in installing sage 6.4.1 : Error installing package pynac-0.3.2

2014-12-15 Thread Soomin Jeon
I have problems in installing sage 6.4.1 using source, and the error message is as below: Error installing package pynac-0.3.2 Please email sage-devel

[sage-devel] Re: Problems in installing sage 6.4.1 : Error installing package pynac-0.3.2

2014-12-15 Thread kcrisman
package: pynac-0.3.2 log file: /usr/local/sage-6.4.1/logs/pkgs/pynac-0.3.2.log Without seeing this file (or at least the tail end of it) it will be impossible to tell, probably. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Problems in installing sage 6.4.1 : Error installing package pynac-0.3.2

2014-12-15 Thread Soomin Jeon
So I attached the file 'pynac-0.3.2.log'. 2014. 12. 16. 오전 2:11에 kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com님이 작성: package: pynac-0.3.2 log file: /usr/local/sage-6.4.1/logs/pkgs/pynac-0.3.2.log Without seeing this file (or at least the tail end of it) it will be impossible to tell, probably. -- You

[sage-devel] NTL updates

2014-12-15 Thread Victor Shoup
I've just uploaded a bug-fix version of NTL (version 7.0.2) at www.shoup.net/ntl. Probably does not affect any Sage code, though. Also, I'm getting closer to finish my quixotic quest to make NTL exception safe. It is an interesting experience, as I'm learning how to make use of modern C++

Re: [sage-devel] Problems in installing sage 6.4.1 : Error installing package pynac-0.3.2

2014-12-15 Thread Francois Bissey
Installing sage as root are we? This is not supported. François On 16/12/2014, at 05:18, Soomin Jeon soomin.jeo...@gmail.com wrote: I have problems in installing sage 6.4.1 using source, and the error message is as below:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread rjf
On Friday, December 5, 2014 12:39:55 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:19 PM, maldun dom...@gmx.net javascript: wrote: What we still don't have is a working windows version. This is still a big blocker for being succesfull. I don't want to in any way discourage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 5, 2014 12:39:55 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:19 PM, maldun dom...@gmx.net wrote: What we still don't have is a working windows version. This is still a big blocker for being

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread rjf
On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:18:12 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-12-05 08:17, Nathann Cohen wrote: In your past experiences (possibly when using Sage to teach in a classroom), in which areas do you think we are behind users' expectations ? I think the worst is symbolic

Re: [sage-devel] Problems in installing sage 6.4.1 : Error installing package pynac-0.3.2

2014-12-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, December 15, 2014 11:20:10 AM UTC-8, François wrote: Installing sage as root are we? This is not supported. Allow me to advertise http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17420. This should print a warning early in the build process if trying to build as root. Please review! John

[sage-devel] Ohloh/openhub.net

2014-12-15 Thread kcrisman
https://www.openhub.net/p/sage What the heck happened in June 2013 that supposedly tripled our code size? Is this the git conversion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [sage-devel] Ohloh/openhub.net

2014-12-15 Thread François Bissey
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:53:25 kcrisman wrote: https://www.openhub.net/p/sage What the heck happened in June 2013 that supposedly tripled our code size? Is this the git conversion? I don't know but looking on github on the release page: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases?after=6.1.beta0

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-12-15 20:47, rjf wrote: Maybe it's an appropriate response? No, it's not. Note that dividing both sides by sqrt(x) gives you sqrt(x)=1. So the solution is x=1 maybe. But x=0 is obviously a solution too. I think there is absolutely no discussion that the solution set of [sqrt(x) == x]

Re: [sage-devel] NTL updates

2014-12-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2014-12-15 20:15, Victor Shoup wrote: As I get closer to finishing this, I'm thinking more about gmp's lack of proper error handling, which is just like NTL's currently: print error message and call abort. No, MPIR (I haven't checked GMP, but I guess it's the same) is far worse. MPIR

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread rjf
Well, you could assert that there is no discussion, but you are apparently wrong. sqrt has 2 values except at zero. (in the complex plane, or on the real line). for example, sqrt(9) is the set {-3,3} . That is how it is extended. and sqrt(1) is {-1,1}. Is it true that 1 is equal to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread rjf
On Monday, December 15, 2014 11:44:25 AM UTC-8, William wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM, rjf fat...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: William said ... There's no question that in say 200?, Microsoft Windows support was absolutely critical for widespread adoption of a piece of

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could assert that there is no discussion, but you are apparently wrong. sqrt has 2 values except at zero. (in the complex plane, or on the real line). for example, sqrt(9) is the set {-3,3} . That is how it is

Re: [sage-devel] NTL updates

2014-12-15 Thread Victor Shoup
Thanks for the feedback. I don't know much about MPIR. I'm talking to some GMP developers. There is someone there who is planning on improving the situation there...at least, for the temporary memory allocations done by mpn-level routines in GMP, which is my main concern. On Monday, December 15,

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, Le 16/12/2014 01:20, rjf a écrit : Well, you could assert that there is no discussion, but you are apparently wrong. May I suggest you to square the equation then solve the obtained polynomial equation? (Then of course, since squaring is an implication, check that the obtained solutions

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-15 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
My favorite example: Sage cannot solve x == sqrt(x): sage: solve(x == sqrt(x), x) [x == sqrt(x)] I'm not so sure whether this is really interesting, but since the discussion is there, FriCAS does the right thing here: (1) - solve(x=sqrt(x), x) (1) [x= 1,x= 0]