[sage-devel] linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-07-23 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, this is not just Lion that is causing trouble. I opened #11619 about problem with building some python bits under a linux-3.0 kernel. Some bits of the building system looks at the major version number of linux to determine that it needs to build stuff in plat-linux2. On linux-3.0 it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 4.7.2.alpha0?

2011-07-29 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:44:01 kcrisman wrote: On Jul 29, 4:20 pm, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 9:16:10 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: More seriously, it would be helpful to know how official such non- releases are. Not at all official. Right, but it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 4.7.2.alpha0?

2011-07-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 02:31:33 leif wrote: On 29 Jul., 23:37, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:44:01 kcrisman wrote: So it would be helpful to have some clarification, if only to avoid rebasing. What I did last time I had a problem like

Re: [sage-devel] List condensation

2011-07-31 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi! I don't know how to measure the activity on ask-sage. Here is a summary of the frequency of posts on the different sage google groops over the past few months, listing the number of posts per month and the total number from February to July. I ordered the lists by increasing activity:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: List condensation

2011-07-31 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi Francois, On 31 Jul., 23:48, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: You forgot debian-sage Indeed. Sorry. Actually I attempted completeness; I did some searches, but debian- sage has not been found. It is another list that had no activity since Oct. 05, 2010

Re: Re: [sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [IPython-dev] [ANN] IPython 0.11 is officially out

2011-07-31 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:21:30 Fernando Perez wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:59 PM, François francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: For those interested Jason Grout has already filled a ticket to upgrade to ipython-0.10.2 (trac #11460) with a comment that Fernando told him that it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Spam from sage-devel

2011-07-31 Thread Francois Bissey
I got it too. It was correctly catched by the university mail filter but left me puzzled too. Francois This email may be confidential and subject to legal privilege, it may not reflect the views of the University of Canterbury, and it is not guaranteed to be virus free. If you are not an

Re: [sage-devel] Re: List condensation

2011-08-01 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:35:46 Simon King wrote: It is a bit of pity. sage-on-gentoo generates a bit of traffic on the gentoo-science mailing list and the occasional thread here. sage-on-gentoo? Is that yet another list I haven't been aware of? Just for clarification I work on porting sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [IPython-dev] [ANN] IPython 0.11 is officially out

2011-08-01 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: I'll give it a spin as soon as it is available for gentoo and report the problems in this thread. How does that sound? Sounds great, modulo one key detail: let's have the discussion on the ipython

Re: [sage-devel] Bug Days: The High Priority Wishlist

2011-08-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: On 2011-08-02 19:09, William Stein wrote: Hi, There is now a high priority wishlist of bugs/issues to work on for Sage Days 32 (Bug Days): http://wiki.sagemath.org/days32/wishlist In this

[sage-devel] test driving maxima-5.25.0

2011-08-04 Thread Francois Bissey
For those who don't know maxima-5.25.0 is out. Some bits look very good some may just OK. So what happens when you use it with sage, here are the test failures: sage -t -long -force_lib devel/sage- main/sage/rings/number_field/number_field_element.pyx

Re: [sage-devel] Re: test driving maxima-5.25.0

2011-08-05 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:49:41 kcrisman wrote: Thanks for the detailed analysis, Francois! The 'official' announcement hadn't been made on their list or the main Maxima page yet, just that it had been tagged, so I didn't mention it yet - but they have everything up on their download site,

Re: [sage-devel] Trac fields: Upstream

2011-08-08 Thread Francois Bissey
IMHO Reported upstream. Little or no feedback. is inappropriate (or not sufficient), since it is impolite in the first place. If I report some issue upstream, I'd like to set this to Reported upstream. No response yet. or something like that. In case I really don't get some [sufficient]

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE_ATLAS_LIB question

2011-08-12 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:45:43 Rita Morgan wrote: I would like to compile sage so it can see our Intel MKL BLAS. During compilation has anyone successfully linked Intelś MKL with Sage? Here is how I would link http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-math-kernel-library-intel-mkl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB question

2011-08-12 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:05:22 Volker Braun wrote: Looks like intel uses a completely different naming scheme instead of liblapack.so / libcblas.so / libf77blas.so. Francois' suggestion of renaming the intel MKL libraries to something standard is a good one, though it might not work. Since intel

Re: [sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-08-20 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:48:02 Dima Pasechnik wrote: A couple of days ago we had a hard to explain crash of sagenb (flask) webapp when it was hammered by 70 undergrads simultaneously during our lab. We don't rule out that it could be a twisted bug. Twisted has meanwhile advanced to version

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-04 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 03:09:31 Maarten Derickx wrote: Nice post. Altough it's really written from a commercial point of view, so not everything is directly applicable to sage. Also I clearly feel how much work it takes to get, a small fix merged upstream is very dependent on the particular

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upstream projects

2011-09-05 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 07:32 +0200, Julien Puydt wrote: Python is up to version 3.2.2 which is incompatible with 2.7. Plus, there is no standard for the language. It is clear that Sage is losing ground on the upstream development path. What happens when the python-based spkgs, such as SciPy,

Re: [sage-devel] Sage installation error @ gnutls-2.2.1.p5

2011-10-18 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I am using Pardus 2011 and trying to build sage on it with gcc 4.5.3. It aborts installation due to 12 errors while installing =20 gnutls-2.2.1.p5. Some part of the log is in Turkish, all they say is something like exiting from directory directoryname And yamak is the user's name. I

[sage-devel] linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, this is not just Lion that is causing trouble. I opened #11619 about problem with building some python bits under a linux-3.0 kernel. Some bits of the building system looks at the major version number of linux to determine that it needs to build stuff in plat-linux2. On linux-3.0 it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 4.7.2.alpha0?

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:44:01 kcrisman wrote: On Jul 29, 4:20 pm, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 9:16:10 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: More seriously, it would be helpful to know how official such non- releases are. Not at all official. Right, but it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: List condensation

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:35:46 Simon King wrote: It is a bit of pity. sage-on-gentoo generates a bit of traffic on the gentoo-science mailing list and the occasional thread here. sage-on-gentoo? Is that yet another list I haven't been aware of? Just for clarification I work on porting sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: test driving maxima-5.25.0

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:49:41 kcrisman wrote: Thanks for the detailed analysis, Francois! The 'official' announcement hadn't been made on their list or the main Maxima page yet, just that it had been tagged, so I didn't mention it yet - but they have everything up on their download site,

Re: [sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:48:02 Dima Pasechnik wrote: A couple of days ago we had a hard to explain crash of sagenb (flask) webapp when it was hammered by 70 undergrads simultaneously during our lab. We don't rule out that it could be a twisted bug. Twisted has meanwhile advanced to version

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB question

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:05:22 Volker Braun wrote: Looks like intel uses a completely different naming scheme instead of liblapack.so / libcblas.so / libf77blas.so. Francois' suggestion of renaming the intel MKL libraries to something standard is a good one, though it might not work. Since intel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Oct 30, 10:12 am, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: There is also the fact that a number of packages check: sys.platform == 'linux2' One quick data point: on FC 15 they are shipping linux 3.* kernels with a fake 2.* version number exactly for compatibility

Re: [sage-devel] Re: linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On 30 Okt., 21:13, Nils Bruin nbr...@sfu.ca wrote: On Oct 30, 10:12 am, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: There is also the fact that a number of packages check: sys.platform == 'linux2' One quick data point: on FC 15 they are shipping linux 3.* kernels

[sage-devel] python-2.7 status

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, After the merging of #10903 and #11339 I cannot see any doctest crashing anymore because of singular. There are only about a handfull of files in which we have failling doctests from python-2.7. Here they are: sage -t -long -force_lib devel/sage-

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-05 Thread Francois Bissey
On Nov 5, 2011, at 18:02 , Burcin Erocal wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: On 5 Nov., 21:24, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:16 , Julien Puydt wrote: Le 05/11/2011 17:42, William Stein a écrit : What do you

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
Em 8 de novembro de 2011 04:20, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade paulo.cesar.pereira.de.andr...@gmail.com escreveu: 2011/11/7 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz: Hi Paulo, You are using python-2.7 right? In #9958 I have a list of patches as long as my arm to deal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
On 11/08/11 13:37, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: (I use Sage on Gentoo) For maintainers, the argument is that a package manager should handle dependencies for you. It's easier to write the dependencies down in a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
On 11/08/11 15:41, Francois Bissey wrote: And by the way thanks for using sage-on-gentoo, we get tired but a pat on the back helps a lot. Sure! You guys do a great job. I use Sage on three Gentoo machines and you've saved me countless hours over the years. I started paying attention

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
2011/11/8 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz: [...] I don't get any of that. I suspect there may be an issue with gmp/mpir. But I have really no clue about the glibc problem, you are using mpmath-0.17 I expect. Yes, mpmath-0.17. This should be an issue with gmp

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
Em 9 de novembro de 2011 00:29, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade paulo.cesar.pereira.de.andr...@gmail.com escreveu: 2011/11/8 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz: 2011/11/8 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz: [...] I don't get any of that. I suspect

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
2011/11/9 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz: Maybe setting MPMATH_NOGMPY is not enough to prevent it to call to gmpy init function that calls mp_set_memory_functions. I will try to debug a bit further, in the worst case, I can resubmit a sagemath package with Conflicts

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/co oker/x86_64/media/contrib/release/python-gmpy-1.14-1mdv2011.0.x86_64.rpm instalando python-gmpy-1.14-1mdv2011.0.x86_64.rpm a partir de /var/cache/urpmi/rpms Preparando... Interesting mix of French and Brazilian

Re: [sage-devel] Sage compilation failure on CentOS 5.7

2011-11-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 at 09:16PM -0500, Daniel Thau wrote: Yeah, I considered that possibility. The md5sum for both the pre-compiled version I tried and the source both matched what they were expected too.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-10 Thread Francois Bissey
I also use sage-on-gentoo. I find it a very good way to just use sage. But i don't only use sage, i also develop it: when there is a feature i miss, i implement it (if i have the knowledge and time to do so). The easyest way to do so is to have sage installed in a directory in the standard

Re: [sage-devel] Debian Version?

2011-11-11 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, frosty jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote: I have just discovered Sage want to know if there are any folks here working on making a Debian version that would work without having to compile all the parts. i.e. use the needed files, apps libraries that are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: when are sage-sage.py and sage-sagex called

2011-11-12 Thread Francois Bissey
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:21:07 PM UTC-8, François wrote: Hi, I spotted those two files and I am wondering what they are used for. sage-sage.py looks like a rewrite of sage-sage in python, is it ever called from anywhere or is it a work in progress of some kind? This file

Re: [sage-devel] Re: why unpack the source packages?

2011-11-15 Thread Francois Bissey
The only real advantages of keeping the upstream sources packaged is that (1) you can know what's in them, check md5sums, etc., and (2) there's less chance of introducing hard-to-find errors by fat- fingering a particular unpacked source file. But I'm happy to unpack, too. Hi, In my

[sage-devel] numpy-1.6.x and sage types

2011-11-28 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I have been looking at upgrading numpy again in #11334 Everything seem to build fine but the doctest failures reveal some possibly deep problems. In several tests a numpy array is prepared with numpy.linspace (there are at least two in functions/other.py). Then a function is appled to the

Re: [sage-devel] Disallowing 4.x - 5.x upgrades

2011-12-02 Thread Francois Bissey
I would like to propose that we *disallow* upgrading from any 4.x version of Sage to any 5.x version. This means that we can merge various upgrade-breaking patches in sage-5.0 (I foresee this to be the release after sage-4.8). Of course, we have to make an effort to make upgrades from 4.x

[sage-devel] we need some combinatronics help to complete the move to python 2.7

2011-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Over here in ticket #9958 we are almost done with the big move to python 2.7.2. However we have some issues that we don't know how to resolve with 2 doctests from sage/combinat. Some of the results appear to vary usually between different 32bit systems but sometimes also between 64bit

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Unofficial release sage-5.0.prealpha0

2012-01-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:08:52 cch wrote: Make Sage with matplotlib by export SAGE_MATPLOTLIB_GUI='yes' and it stops with the error: ... Tkinter (IndexError: list index out of range) ... where tcltk-8.5.11 used in 64bit Slackware Linux. To solve this problem, I remove TCLTK auto-dect

Re: [sage-devel] Building a deb for sage on Debian/Ubuntu

2012-02-25 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:02:46 Jan Groenewald wrote: Hi I am looking for a Debian or Ubuntu packaging mentor. I am not an experienced debian packager, I am learning everything from scratch. But I am an experienced system administrator. I am hoping to find a mentor familiar with both

Re: [sage-devel] tachyon -- are we building it incorrectly or?

2012-03-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:17:55 William Stein wrote: Hi, I thought that if I rendered a 3d scene using viewer='tachyon', then it would use the multiple cores of my computer to render the scene more quickly. However, I was just rendering a complicated 3d scene for my class (that takes about 30

Re: [sage-devel] tachyon -- are we building it incorrectly or?

2012-03-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:43:46 William Stein wrote: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Francois Bissey fbis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:17:55 William Stein wrote: Hi, I thought that if I rendered a 3d scene using viewer='tachyon', then it would use the multiple

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Segregating development from production

2012-03-09 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:12:30 Keshav Kini wrote: Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be writes: On 2012-03-09 06:18, Keshav Kini wrote: Something else: Why do we even have local/ ? Why not just have bin/, lib/, etc. in the root directory? I like local/. It makes the top-level directory

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Adding GCC and MPC as standard packages

2012-03-14 Thread Francois Bissey
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:44:03 P Purkayastha wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:32 AM UTC+8, François wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote: On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself to

Re: [sage-devel] the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython/

2012-03-21 Thread Francois Bissey
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:07:33 John H Palmieri wrote: Does anyone use the files in the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython? Would you object if they were moved elsewhere in the Sage distribution, and if some of the files were modified or deleted? (In particular, ipythonrc-scipy might not be long for

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.8 fails to build on ArchLinux x64

2012-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:24:21 oNNy wrote: Hello, I tried to compile Sage Mathematics 4.8 using the ArchLinux AUR buildscript from here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56737 The error occurs while installing the package linbox, see the log in the attachment. I hope this is fixable,

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jason Grout Sent: Wed 12/8/2010 2:19 AM To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas. On 12/7/10 12:05 AM, Thierry Dumont wrote: The Goto Blas are now under BSD license.

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Seems like I didn't dig deep enough. So it isn't actively developed by the TACC anymore, it is given to the community to maintain and take over development. It only provides f77blas. I guess it would be possible to create a cblas interface using f2c but it is not really something anyone would

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-09 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Bill Hart Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 2:21 PM To: sage-devel Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas. So I don't know what is considered a fast time to build BLAS, but on my machine it was straightforward. I just typed make and it

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add = 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball.

2010-12-16 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Volker Braun Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 1:11 AM To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add = 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball. Gentoo-prefix uses rpath instead of the

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add = 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball.

2010-12-16 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Georg S. Weber Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 11:30 AM To: sage-devel Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add = 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball. P.S.: Francois, I thought you were on leave moving to a

RE: [sage-devel] Combine ATLAS and LAPACK?

2010-12-19 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Volker Braun Sent: Sun 12/19/2010 01:44 To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Combine ATLAS and LAPACK? The newest development version atlas-3.9.32 now wants to build lapack itself and the old

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I'm the guy who reported and worked on : http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10285 For reference, the problem was that I couldn't get sage 4.6.0 to build on my ARM-based netbook. I fought hard (and well!), and finally got sage up -- that required a few changes here and there,

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
Le 05/02/2011 11:44, Francois Bissey a écrit : So gamma could be called from C, Cython, possibly mpmath, pynac or maxima. I guess you could tests the results calling from mpmath or maxima. I am guessing that SR(10.0r).gamma() will end up being a call to maxima to compute gamma but I could

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
Le 05/02/2011 20:08, Francois Bissey a écrit : Le 05/02/2011 11:44, Francois Bissey a écrit : So gamma could be called from C, Cython, possibly mpmath, pynac or maxima. I guess you could tests the results calling from mpmath or maxima. I am guessing that SR(10.0r).gamma

[sage-devel] maxima's version is tested twice in sage/interfaces/maxima.py

2011-02-08 Thread Francois Bissey
Once should be enough. Found it because I am running maxima-5.23.2 on my iMac, this is with 4.6.2.alpha4: age -t -force_lib devel/sage-main/sage/interfaces/maxima.py ** File /Users/frb15/Desktop/Gentoo/usr/share/sage/devel/sage-

Re: [sage-devel] maxima's version is tested twice in sage/interfaces/maxima.py

2011-02-08 Thread Francois Bissey
Once should be enough. Found it because I am running maxima-5.23.2 on my iMac, this is with 4.6.2.alpha4: age -t -force_lib devel/sage-main/sage/interfaces/maxima.py ** File

Re: [sage-devel] Singular in 4.6.2.alpha4 doesn't build on Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
I thought I would try to see if Sage builds in the upcoming version of Ubuntu, which is still early in the development stages but I think the compilers and other basic system stuff are stable. But there's some kind of linker error: ../kernel/libkernel.a(mod_raw.o): In function `dynl_open':

Re: [sage-devel] Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
I've updated ECL to the latest upstream release http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/ecl-11.1.1.spkg Can people test this package, then run the doctests. Note the changes are not committed yet, but the are a note in SPKG.txt, and of course the source code has changed.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On 10 February 2011 20:32, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: I get essentially (probably exactly) the same errors on OS X 10.4 PPC.If anyone else tries this, don't forget you have to rebuild (./ sage -f maxima) Maxima after building the new ECL. Francois' idea is great. I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On 10 February 2011 20:59, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Reading the message linked by Karl it seems easy to patch for this behavior. Of course there could be other problems elsewhere with a similar origin. I'd say we should go ahead with a patch in maxima (line

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On 10 February 2011 20:59, Francois Bissey It appears this was a bug created by ECL which the ECL developer has acknowledged http://www.mail-archive.com/ecls-list@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00671.html and is fixed in CVS. So I think we should leave Maxima untouched, and instead

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-12 Thread Francois Bissey
On 02/11/11 12:46 AM, Francois Bissey wrote: Can you post a link to your .spkg since you have created one. I assume you are using 'patch' rather than 'cp' to copy the files over, since 'patch' has been added to Sage. I guess a ticket should be created to update Maxima too. It looks like

[sage-devel] files not under hg control in sage-4.6.2.alpha4.spkg

2011-02-13 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Just want to check something that I think is weird. I was looking at ticket #10764 and basically fixing the deprecated warnings in the following files: sage/combinat/combinat_cython.pyx sage/rings/polynomial/polynomial_real_mpfr_dense.pyx sage/ext/interpreters/wrapper_cdf.pxd

Re: [sage-devel] cddlib fails to build if autoconf is not installed.

2011-02-21 Thread Francois Bissey
On 2011-02-21 02:19, David Kirkby wrote: /export/home/drkirkby/sage-4.6.2.rc0/spkg/build/cddlib-094f.p8/src/missin g --run automake-1.11 --gnu sh: line 1: autoconf: not found automake-1.11: autoconf failed with exit status: 127 make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 Error building cddlib

Re: [sage-devel] cddlib fails to build if autoconf is not installed.

2011-02-21 Thread Francois Bissey
On 2011-02-21 02:19, David Kirkby wrote: /export/home/drkirkby/sage-4.6.2.rc0/spkg/build/cddlib-094f.p8/src/miss in g --run automake-1.11 --gnu sh: line 1: autoconf: not found automake-1.11: autoconf failed with exit status: 127 make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 Error building

Re: [sage-devel] sqlachemy

2011-02-26 Thread Francois Bissey
Is SQLAlchemy actually used in Sage at all? We distribute an old version (0.5.8) as a standard spkg. However, I can't seem to find where it is being used: ~/sage/devel/sage/sage% grep -ri sqlalchemy * databases/database.py:#- wrap sqlalchemy So apparently it isn't imported in any

Re: [sage-devel] mpmath and plot incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 at 01:26PM -0800, jtyard wrote: I'm running sage 4.6.1 and cannot use plot after loading mpmath. Namely, running from mpmath import * plot(lambda t: sin(2*pi*t), [1, 4]) produces no output in the notebook. I'm loading mpmath because I need to make plots of

Re: [sage-devel] Adding support for non-gnu compilers

2011-03-04 Thread Francois Bissey
Although Sage builds fully and passes all doctest on 32-bit Solaris with gcc, there are a couple of issues I'm aware of where gcc is not working as well as I'd like. * R will not build 64-bit on OpenSolaris with gcc * The optional OpenMPI will not build with gcc on Solaris, but will with

Re: [sage-devel] How to tell if a FLOSS project is doomed to FAIL

2011-03-09 Thread Francois Bissey
This may be of interest https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doo med_to_FAIL and should explain why sage is not included and/or built from sources in any major distro. Well, I make rpms for Mandriva, and there is the gentoo port... My turn? :)

[sage-devel] Removal of scipy_sandbox

2011-03-15 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I have created a ticket (trac #10936) to remove scipy_sandox from sage. Back in the day of trac #1430 it contained experimental parts waiting to be integrated in scipy. Time has passed and now scipy_sandbox has been discontinued for a while upstream and one part it provided is now in scipy

[sage-devel] trac server running out of space again?

2011-03-15 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I am not able to look for tickets on trac. I am getting: Report execution failed: could not write block 1 of temporary file: No space left on device HINT: Perhaps out of disk space? Francois This email may be confidential and subject to legal privilege, it may not reflect the views of the

Re: [sage-devel] NTL upgrade

2011-03-17 Thread Francois Bissey
We should resurrect http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5731 : Update NTL to 5.5.2 release (latest upstream). It has been sitting around for 2 years. See the ticket for the bugs which have been fixed. Sage Days 29? Why not. sage-on-gentoo has been using it for a long time now. I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: NTL upgrade

2011-03-17 Thread Francois Bissey
Alas the info on the ticket is out-of-date. Whilst GMP 4.3.0 did implement extended GCD differently, this was fixed in a later release (likewise for MPIR), specifically GMP 4.3.2 and GMP 5.0.0. I don't know if recent NTL takes these later changes into account. Since I have installs of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: http://flask.sagenb.org -- test it!!!

2011-03-26 Thread Francois Bissey
On 3/26/11 10:03 AM, Jonathan wrote: This problem with Jmol appears to be multifaceted. 1) The path to Jmol looks strange, although the error messages do appear to come from Jmol. 2) It looks like something is being added to the top of the script file for Jmol and confusing it. 3)

Re: [sage-devel] lcalc code quality

2011-03-31 Thread Francois Bissey
On 03/31/11 05:22 PM, Volker Braun wrote: As Dave Kirby remarked, right now it compiles on a couple of gcc releases and essentially no other compiler. And thats hardly a surprise if you look at the code. At the very least the endless compiler warnings need to be looked at / fixed.

Re: [sage-devel] lcalc code quality

2011-04-01 Thread Francois Bissey
An idea that may be on the constructive side. John could you convince/help Micheal to upload his current code in a hg repo on google code like you did with eclib? Rather than whining we could contribute and take a snapshot when it is satisfactory. Francois This email may be confidential and

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Francois Bissey
With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest failures: ** File /export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/para metric_surface.pyx, line 180: sage: s[:2]

Re: [sage-devel] has Apple effectively forked gcc?

2011-04-05 Thread Francois Bissey
In XCode 4.0.1, the default C compiler (cc) is gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.9) (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Level_Virtual_Machine) whereas it also has gcc: gcc version 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3) I wonder what should be the

Re: [sage-devel] Please test new version of sqlite

2011-04-06 Thread Francois Bissey
I've placed here an updated package with the latest version of sqlite, as the one we have in Sage is 2-3 years old. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/sqlite-3.7.5.spkg I've built Sage from scratch using this, and found all doctests passed. But I'd be interested how it

[sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Following an initial post by Paulo from mandriva I started to look at using sage with python-2.7 (2.7.1 in fact). The news is two fold: 1) sage seems to work ok. It starts. 2) a good deal of the test suite is shot. As a consequence of 2 it is difficult to work out which parts need to be

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-08 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi François, On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:08:57PM +1200, Francois Bissey wrote: Following an initial post by Paulo from mandriva I started to look at using sage with python-2.7 (2.7.1 in fact). The news is two fold: 1) sage seems to work ok. It starts. 2) a good deal of the test

Re: [sage-devel] Please check a new singular package with gcc 4.6.0

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
On 04/ 9/11 11:05 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've found after installing the following 3 files http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/singular-3-1-1-4.p5.sp kg http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/dreyer/spkg/polybori-0.7.0.p2.spkg

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
Thanks to Nicolas there is a lot of progress there. Initial test by my friend Steve has shown that test failures is way down and the problems with assertEqual seems to be mostly solved. Next we have a number of warning messages that have changed and the number of significant figures displayed

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
It turns out that warnings are not visible to the end users anymore. This is according to the python documentation: http://docs.python.org/library/warnings.html Section 27.6.5 to be precise. Actually more explicit in http://docs.python.org/using/cmdline.html : Starting from Python 2.7,

Re: [sage-devel] sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi! It was recommended to me by Jeroen to use sage-4.7.alpha5 for rebasing a patch of mine. AFAIK, sage-4.7.alpha5 is not officially released yet, but I hope it is OK to report here that ecl fails to build. The log can be found at

[sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
Having a working Gentoo-prefix that one could use if the host system's toolchain is broken already would be very interesting. But when I played around with it I ran into some library problems. For example, gmp/mpir would be installed twice (host and gentoo prefix), potentially mutually

[sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi Francois, Aside from that it is not as developer friendly as vanilla sage. You cannot apply a patch and do sage -b. Effectively to apply a patch I change the ebuild and do the equivalent of sage -ba. On the other hand upgrade always works :) Can't we tell emerge to keepwork and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi Francois, On 12 Apr., 23:35, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: this is totally #10986 could you give it a review? And possibly pipe on the ecl tracker upstream to tell them I am not on drugs :) Thank you! I replaced the old spkg with yours and am now trying

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi Francois, On 13 Apr., 08:35, Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: I read athttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357319that the bug is fixed upstream (unless I misunderstood), so, I guess it won't be needed to tell them you are not on drugs... Not fixed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: spam trac tickets: 11171 and others

2011-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi kcrisman, On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:27 AM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: We need to implement something, stat. #11191 and #11192 (both within the last hour) are spam. Solution: Remove the current captcha plugin. It's trivially broken with a human spammer creating spam

[sage-devel] progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-14 Thread Francois Bissey
After a small number of patch (#11156 from Nicolas M. Thiery, and 2 in #9958, one of which is from my friend Steve Trogdon) we have a clear view of what needs to be fixed. Test done on 4.7.alpha4 + #7377 and #9969 Aside from the chatter due to change of format and messages here is what is

[sage-devel] p_Delete in libsingular

2011-04-19 Thread Francois Bissey
While working on getting sage to work with python-2.7.1 I encountered a segfault in sage which seems to come from libsingular. In fact the backtrace points to line 127 of kernel/ideals.cc in the singular source code: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. id_Delete (h=0x509b078,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-20 Thread Francois Bissey
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:41:26PM -0700, François wrote: This test reduces to: sage: class CCls(Parent): ... def __eq__(self, other): ... return True sage: x = CCls() sage: x == None True and I assume you get False instead

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