[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-09-20 Thread Frédéric Chapoton 
I have opened a ticket https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21545

to upgrade to ipython 5.1, in the hope that this will solve this *damn* 
%attach issue

Frederic

Le vendredi 12 août 2016 14:22:51 UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton a écrit :
>
> is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel 
> things in 7.4.b0 ?
>
> it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun (see 
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>
> for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>
> and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and n 
> are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd session
>
> Frederic
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-26 Thread Travis Scrimshaw 


> > You mean submitting a patch upstream? 
> Yes. I had not realized we behave differently with respect to Cython. 
> Would 
> it not be enough to pass whatever an hypothetical upstream version of 
> attach 
> produces through the preparser we use in the interactive shell? 
>
>  
What about submitting a patch upstream for the Python part and then having 
us handle the Cython? Or are they too intertwined?

Best,
Travis

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-26 Thread VulK 
> You mean submitting a patch upstream?
Yes. I had not realized we behave differently with respect to Cython. Would
it not be enough to pass whatever an hypothetical upstream version of attach
produces through the preparser we use in the interactive shell?
S.


* leif  [2016-08-26 16:23:53]:

> VulK wrote:
> >>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
> > +1
> > 
> > A related question: why do we implement %attach in sage rather than making a
> > patch for upstream IPython?
> 
> You mean submitting a patch upstream?
> 
> (Otherwise repackagers won't be happy, but upstream would have to accept
> it of course.  I'm not sure it would be suitable, as AFAIK we use our
> own Cython stuff to attach Cython files, i.e., extension modules.)
> 
> 
> -leif
> 
> 
> > * Frédéric Chapoton  [2016-08-26 06:01:23]:
> > 
> >>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
> >>Le dimanche 14 août 2016 02:14:44 UTC+2, Travis Scrimshaw a écrit :
> >>
> >>I would really like to have %attach back working.
> >>Best,
> >>Travis
> >>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
> >>
> >>Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook)
> >>doesn't work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.
> >>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel
> >>things in 7.4.b0 ?
> >>it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun
> >>(see [1]https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
> >>for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
> >>and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and
> >>n are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd
> >>session
> >>Frederic
> >>
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> >>3. mailto:sage-devel@googlegroups.com
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[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-26 Thread leif 
VulK wrote:
>>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
> +1
> 
> A related question: why do we implement %attach in sage rather than making a
> patch for upstream IPython?

You mean submitting a patch upstream?

(Otherwise repackagers won't be happy, but upstream would have to accept
it of course.  I'm not sure it would be suitable, as AFAIK we use our
own Cython stuff to attach Cython files, i.e., extension modules.)


-leif


> * Frédéric Chapoton  [2016-08-26 06:01:23]:
> 
>>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
>>Le dimanche 14 août 2016 02:14:44 UTC+2, Travis Scrimshaw a écrit :
>>
>>I would really like to have %attach back working.
>>Best,
>>Travis
>>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
>>
>>Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook)
>>doesn't work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.
>>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton
>>wrote:
>>
>>is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel
>>things in 7.4.b0 ?
>>it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun
>>(see [1]https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>>for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>>and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and
>>n are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd
>>session
>>Frederic
>>
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>>1. https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006
>>2. mailto:sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>>3. mailto:sage-devel@googlegroups.com
>>4. https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-26 Thread VulK 
>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
+1

A related question: why do we implement %attach in sage rather than making a
patch for upstream IPython?
S.




* Frédéric Chapoton  [2016-08-26 06:01:23]:

>and me too, this is really very annoying that %attach is broken..
>Le dimanche 14 août 2016 02:14:44 UTC+2, Travis Scrimshaw a écrit :
> 
>I would really like to have %attach back working.
>Best,
>Travis
>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
> 
>Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook)
>doesn't work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.
>On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton
>wrote:
> 
>is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel
>things in 7.4.b0 ?
>it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun
>(see [1]https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and
>n are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd
>session
>Frederic
> 
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>1. https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006
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[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-26 Thread Frédéric Chapoton 
and me too, this is really *very annoying* that %attach is broken..

Le dimanche 14 août 2016 02:14:44 UTC+2, Travis Scrimshaw a écrit :
>
> I would really like to have %attach back working.
>
> Best,
> Travis
>
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
>>
>> Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook) 
>> doesn't work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton wrote:
>>>
>>> is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel 
>>> things in 7.4.b0 ?
>>>
>>> it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun 
>>> (see https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>>>
>>> for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>>>
>>> and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and 
>>> n are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd session
>>>
>>> Frederic
>>>
>>

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[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-13 Thread Travis Scrimshaw 
I would really like to have %attach back working.

Best,
Travis


On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook) doesn't 
> work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton wrote:
>>
>> is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel 
>> things in 7.4.b0 ?
>>
>> it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun (see 
>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>>
>> for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>>
>> and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and n 
>> are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd session
>>
>> Frederic
>>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-12 Thread Volker Braun 
Presumably attach (or, more generally, using the python inputhook) doesn't 
work since Ipython 5 now implements its own input handling.




On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:22:51 PM UTC+2, Frédéric Chapoton wrote:
>
> is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel 
> things in 7.4.b0 ?
>
> it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun (see 
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>
> for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>
> and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and n 
> are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd session
>
> Frederic
>

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[sage-devel] Re: broken %attach and %debug ?

2016-08-12 Thread John H Palmieri 
Maybe we shouldn't rush to switch to IPython 5.0?

  John


On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 5:22:51 AM UTC-7, Frédéric Chapoton wrote:
>
> is this only me, or the recent update to ipython 5.0 has broken severel 
> things in 7.4.b0 ?
>
> it seems that somebody already complained about sage_mode and %lprun (see 
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21006)
>
> for me, %attach does not seem to reload the files that changed
>
> and using %debug doe snot quite work, because the special command r and n 
> are still mapped to numerical and R interpreter inside the ipbd session
>
> Frederic
>

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