On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Vincent Delecroix <
20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would benefit a lot from having Sage be part of the system Python.
> The reason is that I am using a distribution and my distribution comes
> with many Python modules that I am using. For some of them they
I would benefit a lot from having Sage be part of the system Python.
The reason is that I am using a distribution and my distribution comes
with many Python modules that I am using. For some of them they are
either broken on Sage or just does not compile at all (eg matplotlib
graphics, pygtk). I
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Volker Braun wrote:
> I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in
> ~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if you need
> some sort of specialist package. Its just an all-around better
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 4:55 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
>> I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in
>> ~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if
On Saturday, September 10, 2016, Volker Braun wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:55:48 PM UTC+2, William wrote:
>>
>> Python itself could make those same arguments, as one can install
>> multiple copies of Python in different ways on a single computer.
>>
>
>
On the plus side, now that we don't sent LD_LIBRARY_PATH any more any
extensions modules found in ~/.local actually have a chance of working.
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On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 4:55:48 PM UTC+2, William wrote:
>
> Python itself could make those same arguments, as one can install
> multiple copies of Python in different ways on a single computer.
>
Thats not really a valid argument, you are comparing apples and oranges.
If anything,
Volker Braun wrote:
> I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in
> ~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if you
> need some sort of specialist package. Its just an all-around better
> workflow. And Sage-the-distribution really is like a big
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
> I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in
> ~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if you need
> some sort of specialist package. Its just an all-around better
I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in
~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if you need
some sort of specialist package. Its just an all-around better workflow.
And Sage-the-distribution really is like a big venv.
I'd rather spend 5
On 2016-09-09 18:29, leif wrote:
See also https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21430 for a very recent,
related discussion.
No, it's not related at all.
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William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I personally disagree with trying to make Sage's python and the
> general environment be as isolated as possibly from each other. We
> should try to interoperate with the greater Python world as much as
> possible, not change things to discourage that. If you want
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