Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Samuel Lelievre 
2020-06-24 10:09:50 UTC, Jaap Spies:
>
> Martin knows of the problem. He reacted in the thread.

I opened this issue:

  https://github.com/fplll/fplll/issues/432

It might be possible to use GitHub actions to test on ARM.

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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread kcrisman 
Great, glad that we didn't lose the ARM trail.  Not that I'm necessarily 
looking forward to upgrading ... but I bet a lot of our "customers" will! 
 Thanks for all your replies.

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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Jaap Spies 
Yes. Sorry Martin. I mixed things up.

Martin knows of the problem. He reacted in the thread.

Jaap

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 11:58:14 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 10:34 Jaap Spies, > 
> wrote:
>
>> This was me on sagerelease. Starting with sage-9.1.beta1 fplll failed. 
>> According to Bill Hart they never test on ARM.
>>
> fplll bug tracker is here:
> https://github.com/fplll/fplll/issues
> In the past they dealt with ARM bugs.
> Please file yours there.
>
> (it is Martin Albrecht's project mostly, I don't think Bill Hart is 
> involved)
>
>
>>

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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik 
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 10:34 Jaap Spies,  wrote:

> This was me on sagerelease. Starting with sage-9.1.beta1 fplll failed.
> According to Bill Hart they never test on ARM.
>
fplll bug tracker is here:
https://github.com/fplll/fplll/issues
In the past they dealt with ARM bugs.
Please file yours there.

(it is Martin Albrecht's project mostly, I don't think Bill Hart is
involved)


> Jaap
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:21:48 AM UTC+2, tdumont wrote:
>>
>> Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list)
>> where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so...
>> t.
>>
>> Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
>> > Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of
>> > hardware in 2015 or so.
>> >
>> > We can pick it up again.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman, > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > See e.g.
>> >
>> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
>> >
>> > When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for
>> > Sage - obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I
>> > wonder if maybe the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t.
>> > processors this time around (e.g. assembly code already available
>> > for major upstream packages).  Maybe it's so trivial that I am
>> > foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would ask if anyone has
>> > thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this forum about
>> it
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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Jaap Spies 
See ticket: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29091

Jaap

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 11:34:40 AM UTC+2, Jaap Spies wrote:
>
> This was me on sagerelease. Starting with sage-9.1.beta1 fplll failed. 
> According to Bill Hart they never test on ARM.
>
> Jaap
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:21:48 AM UTC+2, tdumont wrote:
>>
>> Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list) 
>> where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so... 
>> t. 
>>
>> Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : 
>> > Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of 
>> > hardware in 2015 or so. 
>> > 
>> > We can pick it up again. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman, > > > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > See e.g. 
>> > 
>> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
>>  
>> > 
>> > When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for 
>> > Sage - obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I 
>> > wonder if maybe the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t. 
>> > processors this time around (e.g. assembly code already available 
>> > for major upstream packages).  Maybe it's so trivial that I am 
>> > foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would ask if anyone has 
>> > thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this forum about 
>> it 
>> > yet. 
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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Jaap Spies 
This was me on sagerelease. Starting with sage-9.1.beta1 fplll failed. 
According to Bill Hart they never test on ARM.

Jaap


On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:21:48 AM UTC+2, tdumont wrote:
>
> Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list) 
> where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so... 
> t. 
>
> Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : 
> > Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of 
> > hardware in 2015 or so. 
> > 
> > We can pick it up again. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman,  
> > > wrote: 
> > 
> > See e.g. 
> > 
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
>  
> > 
> > When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for 
> > Sage - obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I 
> > wonder if maybe the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t. 
> > processors this time around (e.g. assembly code already available 
> > for major upstream packages).  Maybe it's so trivial that I am 
> > foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would ask if anyone has 
> > thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this forum about it 
> > yet. 
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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 7:21 AM Thierry Dumont
 wrote:
>
> Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list)
> where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so...
> t.

these are underpowered for the job, but one can get e.g.
https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/a1/
which run Linux on ARM 64 chips.
(I don't know how to get "real" computer with such specs:))


>
> Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
> > Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of
> > hardware in 2015 or so.
> >
> > We can pick it up again.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman,  > > wrote:
> >
> > See e.g.
> > 
> > https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
> >
> > When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for
> > Sage - obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I
> > wonder if maybe the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t.
> > processors this time around (e.g. assembly code already available
> > for major upstream packages).  Maybe it's so trivial that I am
> > foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would ask if anyone has
> > thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this forum about it
> > yet.
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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-24 Thread Thierry Dumont 
Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list)
where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so...
t.

Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
> Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of
> hardware in 2015 or so.
> 
> We can pick it up again.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman,  > wrote:
> 
> See e.g.
> 
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
> 
> When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for
> Sage - obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I
> wonder if maybe the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t.
> processors this time around (e.g. assembly code already available
> for major upstream packages).  Maybe it's so trivial that I am
> foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would ask if anyone has
> thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this forum about it
> yet.
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Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-23 Thread Dima Pasechnik 
Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of
hardware in 2015 or so.

We can pick it up again.


On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 13:03 kcrisman,  wrote:

> See e.g.
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/21/21298607/first-arm-mac-macbook-pro-imac-ming-chi-kuo-wwdc-2020
>
> When Apple moved to Intel, there were definitely some impacts for Sage -
> obviously needing to provide two sets of binaries - but I wonder if maybe
> the Sage ecosystem is a lot more stable w.r.t. processors this time around
> (e.g. assembly code already available for major upstream packages).  Maybe
> it's so trivial that I am foolish for mentioning it, but I thought I would
> ask if anyone has thoughts on this, as I couldn't find anything on this
> forum about it yet.
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