Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-04-05 Thread Hongyi Zhao
On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:46:04 AM UTC+8 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:33:07 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 13:06:25 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: [...] leads me to

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-29 Thread Nils Bruin
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 13:46:04 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:33:07 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: $ sage --help ... Sage-the-distribution options: --optional -- list all optional packages that can be installed --experimental -- list all

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-29 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 1:33:07 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 13:06:25 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: [...] leads me to believe that it's probably nor possible to install pynormaliz via

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
we should remove "sage -i". With source present, make can and should be used instead. Without source, "sage --python -m pip install" should be the only possible option - basically, install python packages into Sage's python package tree is the only thing which might work (with usual caveats)

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-29 Thread Nils Bruin
On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 13:06:25 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: [...] leads me to believe that it's probably nor possible to install pynormaliz via "make" in a binary distribution. If you install Sage from a binary

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-29 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: [...] leads me to believe that it's probably nor possible to install pynormaliz via "make" in a binary distribution. If you install Sage from a binary distribution, then there is no relation whatsoever to a source tree of

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-28 Thread Nils Bruin
On Tuesday, 28 March 2023 at 21:06:26 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:34:50 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: In my experience, sagelib needs rebuilding to interface with normaliz (I think it's "make normaliz pynormaliz" nowadays, or perhaps one needs a pip install). No,

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-28 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:34:50 PM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: In my experience, sagelib needs rebuilding to interface with normaliz (I think it's "make normaliz pynormaliz" nowadays, or perhaps one needs a pip install). No, there is no such build-time dependency. And "make pynormaliz"

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 1:34 AM Nils Bruin wrote: > > What would the current (Spring 2023) easiest instructions be for people to > install sage? I'm asking in support of an install-fest for students, so the > objective is to have easy solutions for giving students access on whatever > platform

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-27 Thread Isuru Fernando
> I'm not sure that's quite enough. In my experience, sagelib needs rebuilding to interface with normaliz (I think it's "make normaliz pynormaliz" nowadays, or perhaps one needs a pip install). I would expect that the binary distribution of sage for conda is built without normaliz/pynormaliz

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-27 Thread Nils Bruin
On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 17:47:54 UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote: We used to have separate architecture specific builds, but `sage` is now a meta-package that is architecture neutral (i.e. noarch). So, you get sage-9.8 for all architectures. We support sage-9.8 for the following OS and

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-27 Thread Isuru Fernando
Hi, > However: https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/sage seems to indicate that various architecture-specific builds are woefully outdated: "noarch" seems to be on point, but the architecture-specific ones seem stuck on 9.2. Am I reading the info wrong? Obviously I don't want to point people to 9.2

Re: [sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:34 PM Nils Bruin wrote: > What would the current (Spring 2023) easiest instructions be for people to > install sage? I'm asking in support of an install-fest for students, so the > objective is to have easy solutions for giving students access on whatever > platform

[sage-support] Current advice for generic SageMath install advice

2023-03-27 Thread Nils Bruin
What would the current (Spring 2023) easiest instructions be for people to install sage? I'm asking in support of an install-fest for students, so the objective is to have easy solutions for giving students access on whatever platform they have available. I know about cloud-based solutions, so