Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 21:00, Simon King wrote: > Hi John, > > On 2019-03-20, john_perry_usm wrote: > > ... > > > > 2) In Catholic theology it is not actually "necessary" for Mary to be > free > > of original sin; rather, it is "fitting". > > Right, "fitting" may be the better wording. And

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Simon King
Hi John, On 2019-03-20, john_perry_usm wrote: > ... > > 2) In Catholic theology it is not actually "necessary" for Mary to be free > of original sin; rather, it is "fitting". Right, "fitting" may be the better wording. And concerning the necessity of the doctrine of immaculate conception: 13th

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread john_perry_usm
To follow up on Simon King's mostly correct answer: 1) The joke I was trying to make is that it's "immaculate" only if it's free of all bugs. 2) In Catholic theology it is not actually "necessary" for Mary to be free of original sin; rather, it is "fitting". john perry On Wednesday, March

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Emmanuel, On 2019-03-20, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > Nice one, Simon ! I'm sorely tempted to mark is as "best answer":-)... No, it was off-topic. But when a question is raised, I generally try to answer. Cheers, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Nils Bruin
On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 4:37:49 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > But I wont, because I tend to think that, as long as we are insisting on > explicit creation of symbolic variables, > An argument that has been used in that context is that in "f(x)=sin(x)" the `x` does occur on

Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Isuru Fernando
Hi Simon, Yes, that's what I meant. I see it as a problem because if you had a python variable x, it will be overwritten by the symbolic value. Isuru On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 4:25 AM Simon King wrote: > Hi Isuru, > > On 2019-03-19, Isuru Fernando wrote: > > If the sage preparser did something

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Nice one, Simon ! I'm sorely tempted to mark is as "best answer":-)... But I wont, because I tend to think that, as long as we are insisting on explicit creation of symbolic variables, restricting the use of automatic declaration to the (old) (deprecated) Sage notebook and continue to make

Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Deepak Pawar
Thanks Simon On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:19 PM Simon King wrote: > On 2019-03-20, Deepak Pawar wrote: > > looking for the plotting tutorials in 2D and 3D in sagemath. Can anyone > > suggest me the good resources or link for the same? > > Hi Deepak, > > this thread is about a totally different

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Simon King
On 2019-03-20, Deepak Pawar wrote: > looking for the plotting tutorials in 2D and 3D in sagemath. Can anyone > suggest me the good resources or link for the same? Hi Deepak, this thread is about a totally different topic. Next time please open a new thread when you want to discuss a new topic.

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Henri, On 2019-03-19, henri.gir...@gmail.com wrote: > What is the difference between virginal conception and immaculate > conception ? "Virginal conception" in the context of Christian dogmatics concerns how Jesus was conceived. "Immaculate conception" concerns how Jesus' *mother* was

Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Deepak Pawar
looking for the plotting tutorials in 2D and 3D in sagemath. Can anyone suggest me the good resources or link for the same? Thank you On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:32 AM Isuru Fernando wrote: > If the sage preparser did something like, > > __tmp__ = SR.var("x, y"); __tmp_g__ = lambda x, y: >

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Isuru, On 2019-03-19, Isuru Fernando wrote: > If the sage preparser did something like, > > __tmp__ = SR.var("x, y"); __tmp_g__ = lambda x, y: > symbolic_expression(x+y**Integer(2)).function(x,y); f = __tmp_g__(*__tmp__) > > for > > f(x, y) = x + y ** 2 > > you wouldn't have this problem and

Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-19 Thread Isuru Fernando
If the sage preparser did something like, __tmp__ = SR.var("x, y"); __tmp_g__ = lambda x, y: symbolic_expression(x+y**Integer(2)).function(x,y); f = __tmp_g__(*__tmp__) for f(x, y) = x + y ** 2 you wouldn't have this problem and it should be easy enough to change in the preparsesr. Isuru On

Re: [sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-19 Thread henri.gir...@gmail.com
Hi John, What is the difference between virginal conception and immaculate conception ? I notice that sagemath can even cogitate in philosophy : Really a swiss knife ? I don't believe in spontaneous generation ! lol Henri Le 19/03/2019 à 18:38, john_perry_usm a écrit : Apologies for the

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-19 Thread john_perry_usm
Apologies for the pedantry, but unless the indeterminates so generated are free of all bugs, then strictly speaking this is not immaculate conception; it is spontaneous generation, or perhaps virginal conception. ;-) john perry On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 6:52:19 AM UTC-5, Emmanuel

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-19 Thread Nils Bruin
On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 4:52:19 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > Defining a symbolic function seems to declare its arguments. Is this > expected ? > It's certainly explicit programmed: sage: preparse("f(x)=1") '__tmp__=var("x"); f = symbolic_expression(Integer(1)).function(x) On

[sage-support] Re: A case of immaculate conception...

2019-03-19 Thread Simon King
Hi Emmanuel, On 2019-03-19, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2019-03-19 12:52, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> Defining a symbolic function seems to declare its arguments. > > I tend to think that everything on the left of the '=' sign in an > assignment is stuff that is assigned to. So > >(a, b,