Re: +2a (Re: Bwah?)

1998-08-24 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: I've never understood why everybody hated the +2a Me neither. imc Wouldn't have been so bad if you could have upgraded it to disk (disc?) when it was released

Re: FS: Formats and Speccy stuff (still)

1998-08-24 Thread David
Gavin Smith wrote: My collection of Formats - someone please take them! £10 for the lot! How many issues? Out of interest ...?

Re: FS: Formats and Speccy stuff (still)

1998-08-24 Thread David
Gavin Smith wrote: David wrote: Gavin Smith wrote: My collection of Formats - someone please take them! £10 for the lot! How many issues? Out of interest ...? (Wahey you're back online!) About 5 year's worth I think - so that's over 100 issues). Get your PC fixed? Nice one

Re: sam-users users (was Re: Bwah?)

1998-08-25 Thread David
Andrew Collier wrote: So don't delay - reply today! Take advantage of this unique opportunity to blow your own trumpet. I'll resist the obvious puns ;)

Yoooo hooo!

1998-08-25 Thread David
Y hooo! Anyone alive?

Re: TELEDISK

1998-08-26 Thread David
. Chris Pile was saying that sometimes it works better after running some of the utilities with the sound version of Sim Coupe... I think one of them modifies one of the DOS vectors or somethink. David

Re: I'm new here.

1998-08-31 Thread David
! -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] David (Atom owner! And proud of it!)

Re: I'm new here.

1998-08-31 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There is BDOS, which seems from what I've heard, to be good is some | respects | but fails because it does not allow you to use the hard drive as one | space. | | But what it loses in that, it gains in the fact that it uses existing | commands instead of CALL's.

Re: I'm new here.

1998-08-31 Thread David
Gavin Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I pointed out, and it is something that you cannot deny, is that if just a few of the people on this list had provided Nev with even a little bit of help the HDOS would be a lot better than it is. Oh joy, Mr Get-along-with-everyone

Test posting... please ignore

1998-09-01 Thread David

Re: I'm new here.

1998-09-03 Thread David
on 0161 797 0651. David

Off topic - Red Dwarf!

1998-09-08 Thread David
Oaky, it's not SAM Related... but at least I've bothered to post about something today! Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the re-hased episode? David

Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf!

1998-09-08 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:59:32 -0700, David said: Am I imagining it, or iss the episode of Red Dwarf on tonight the re-hased episode? You are correct - the episode they showed was the digitally ruined one. :-) imc Glad I missed it :)

Re: Off topic - Red Dwarf!

1998-09-09 Thread David
few weeks David

So... when's the show?

1998-09-09 Thread David
Well, as I said earlier, I'll be quite possibly down in Stroud some time over the next few weeks... * When is the show on? David * Either that, or St Albans - depending on which site they send me down to check up on the performance stats on!

Re: HDD and operating systems

1998-09-09 Thread David
... Justin. Well... I know Chris (Pile that is) isn't too interested in going back to an old program. He said (in my interview with him in Blitz - IIR) that he'd have put CPM+ support in if he'd had the info... but he only had very scant into on the system. So he did pretty well really! David

Re: HDD and operating systems - PRODOS

1998-09-09 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, is Chris Pile at liberty now? - Phil Glover Read the interview in Blitz 8 :)

Re: So... when's the show?

1998-09-11 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:51:42 -0700, David said: When is the show on? Apparently it is October 17th. imc Good... I'll mark it in my diary. Ta

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1998-09-12 Thread David
Phew! WHat a busy mailing list it's been today! Crikey, my server's been straining at the edges to handle it all!

Hello?

1998-09-13 Thread David
Anyone alive out there?

Re: Hello?

1998-09-14 Thread David
Dave wrote: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Anyone alive out there? yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a week) I dunno... sounds like at least you're still posting to the list... Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is dead?

Re: Hello?

1998-09-14 Thread David
Robert van der Veeke wrote: Van: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Hello? Datum: Monday, September 14, 1998 6:55 Anyone alive out there? yup. although i've not been up to much (save for going to Malta for a week) I dunno... sounds like

Re: Simple question regarding printer cable

1998-09-15 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 14/09/98 11:03:55, you write: Where can I buy a SAM printer cable, and at what price? (Other than Gloucester). The Sam printer cable is the same as the BBC one - it might be easier to find one of those. panto mode Oh no it isn't.

Re: Hello?

1998-09-15 Thread David
/ Stewart. Gosh, Aren't I helpful! David

Re: CP/M 2.2 QED

1998-09-15 Thread David
... Please can u email it to me? Ta, David

Re: Hello?

1998-09-16 Thread David
Graham Goring wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Stewart Skardon wrote: Any news on FRED? Out very shortly from what I understand. I think that FRED can be pretty much classed as dead, really. Graham Goring -- That's rather a sweeping

Re: The removal to PC cover.

1998-09-17 Thread David
a PC Keyboard interface... so perhaps they'll be able to help. David

Re: Hello?

1998-09-17 Thread David
Graham Goring wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Graham Goring wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Stewart Skardon wrote: Any news on FRED? Out very shortly from what I understand. I think that FRED can

Re: The removal to PC cover.

1998-09-17 Thread David
Jarek Adamski wrote: Do you have SAMBUS? Nope... I think Dan's bought an APE-3 ;) Did I mention that I have an ATOM with a 1.2Gb Disc in it? :-) It is called gigalomania. ;-) Do you use BSDOS with 1500 RECORDs??? Since BDos works with an 8 Gig HD with only a second or two to sort out

Re: The removal to PC cover.

1998-09-17 Thread David
CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | ++

Re: Hello?

1998-09-18 Thread David
David wrote: Graham Goring wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Graham Goring wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Stewart Skardon wrote: Any news on FRED? Out very shortly from what I understand

SAM Manual

1998-09-18 Thread David
Can I just confirm if Bob has allowed an on-line version of the SAM Manual to be done? I may have a bash starting it after Blitz 9 is finished. David

Re: Internet

1998-09-18 Thread David
... I've got about 100 meg of web space doing bugger all at the moment... and no, that wasn't a lame pun either! David -- ++ | Persona Marketing Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may

Re: Archives [off-topic-ish]

1998-09-18 Thread David
David Ledbury wrote: Lee Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erm, can anyone tell me either the location of the sam-users list archives or which rfc the lying pig thing is in. You know the 'if you throw it hard enough' etc. Lee. Hi Lee... try here ;) http

Re: Archives [off-topic-ish]

1998-09-18 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:06:07 -0700, David said: ++ | Persona Marketing Development, SAM CoupŠ | What codepage are you using? Certainly not the iso-8859-1 that your headers claim. The character you seem to have put

Re: Archives [off-topic-ish]

1998-09-18 Thread David
Andrew Collier wrote: On my Mac it's the ellipsis character - three dots in the space of one character. Just out of interest, do these work? Sam Coupé SAM COUPÉ Yep :)

Re: Master Slave

1998-09-19 Thread David
and a slave, how do i set the jumpers and wich one is first on the cable and who goes next. Both drives are Seagates, and in working order. Atom or PC? David -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently listening to : Saving Private Ryan Currently listening to : Diva

Re: Master Slave

1998-09-20 Thread David
Robert van der Veeke wrote: Atom or PC? Atom I think it can be done, or is there something Edwin did not tell me when he showed me his Atom with two HD's attached to it? Yeah - IIR there's one BDOS variable that handles that... I'm sure one needs to be set for the dual status. Edwin's

Re: Archives [off-topic-ish]

1998-09-20 Thread David
Dean Liversidge wrote: Thís ·sïg ìs jûst tø ãññõÿ ¶êøþ£è wh¤ ðºñ´t µ$ë ϧح8859­1. Hmmm, looks like juberish to me, but what the hell, it doesnt bother me. Unless you were calling me something not verry nice ;-) It was This sig is just to annoy people who don't use IS0-8859-1. ;)

Re: Broken URL's

1998-09-23 Thread David
/ Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/misc/index.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sam_supplement/ No longer on the net I think David Tonks wasn't that impressed with the Internet... :( Also, has the following gone for good, don't keep up with CSS as much as I'd like

Re: Broken URL's

1998-09-23 Thread David
Tim wrote: The following links were not checked because the server was unreachable: Page /mono/home/s/unc/www//Coupe/net/specpages.html http://www.jetman.demon.co.uk/speccy/index.html 1 min on CSS ... http://www.jetman.dircon.co.uk/speccy/index.html Cheers, Tim

Re: Hello

1998-09-24 Thread David
by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http://www.persona.clara.net | ++

Who's on?

1998-09-24 Thread David
Hey Tim/Dan, How about a list member update? ;) David

Whoops! Email for Cookie and MM Rookyard!

1998-09-25 Thread David
Sorry about posting this to the list, but I've lost Cookies email addres: Thanks for the Birthday card ;) David

Re: Using a syquest.

1998-09-26 Thread David
Peter Harkess wrote: Hello, I was just wondering if you can use a syquest drive(same as a zip drive)with the atom?Also can it be used as a master i.e. instead of a hard drive. In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's really down to understanding how the Zip

Re: Broken URL's

1998-09-26 Thread David
The Mad Goose wrote: I might have a bash at it sometime this week - there's a very basic copy (Graham's original, I think) up on my site atm, but it's years old. Np. Perhaps u should post up any specfic queries on here... if there's anyone alive round here you should be able to fill up some

Re: Using a syquest.

1998-09-26 Thread David
Simon Cooke wrote: In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's really down to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem. Iomega are hardly forthcoming with techy details. Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;) The internal IDE

Re: Using a syquest.

1998-09-26 Thread David
David wrote: Help's having people on the inside ;) Whoops! I meant people IN on the inside... The original line sounds like Cookies about to join the PCB-H set ;) Mind u :)

Re: Unforgivable (But Intriguing) Spam

1998-09-27 Thread David
Gordon Wallis wrote: It's called Web.it (yes, that's W-E-B-dot-I-T, possible the cheesiest name the show had to offer), and it's pretty cute. It's not, in fact, a C64, but a custom hybrid set-top-box sortof laptop thing, which plugs into your TV and your phone line. The processor's an AMD,

Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998

1998-09-28 Thread David
Dan Doore wrote: Persona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Err it's David L actually (also as URL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Wayne Coles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Wayne... finished Kaboom yet? ;) Unknowns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew? Taiwan? I wonder...? Can't be? Can it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] H... Another

Re: Sam Users List 28th September 1998

1998-09-29 Thread David
Gavin Smith wrote: David wrote: Wayne Coles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Wayne... finished Kaboom yet? ;) Blimey! That reminds me! Bob, I suppose that cheque for the refund of my SAM-Clock order (which must be years old by now!) is in the post? :) Gavin H... Perhaps it's time

Re: Simple question regarding printer cable - Successful outcome

1998-09-29 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pleased to say I managed to track down a supplier of SAM printer cables for a paltry £4, including post and packing. The cable arrived today in it's original packaging and tied up, as it's in mint condition. A quoted price of £7.95 doesn't sound so good after

(no subject)

1998-10-09 Thread David
So? Anything exciting at this show?

Re: Under New Management

1998-10-10 Thread David
actually had one, but I have now!) so instead of just wining about it contribute! And that goes for everyone! (And if you dont want to contribute/Sub to Fred - there's always Blitz ;) David

SAM CLOCK

1998-10-10 Thread David
Has the SAM Clock actually been released by Format? Or, far that matter, the SRAM? David

Re: Copyrights still apply?

1998-10-10 Thread David
belongs to David Braben, who (despite the rave reviews of V2000 ;) is notoriously protective about his work. I really wonder how it does stand with regards to him? Technically, as the SAM version is only a patched Speccy one, it could be okay ... but it is a funny position. Oh well, just my tuppence

Re: subscribing

1998-10-11 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subscribe Hello Malcolm, Not quite the right subbing instructions ;) David

Re: Copyrights still apply?

1998-10-11 Thread David
Simon Cooke wrote: I really wonder how it does stand with regards to him? Technically, as the SAM version is only a patched Speccy one, it could be okay ... but it is a funny position. Nah - it's being sold for profit; this is the kind of thing that David Braben would get stroppy about

Re: PC keyboard I/face

1998-10-11 Thread David
-scratching or anything, just 20 or so wires to solder to spots on the main SAM pcb. Too tricky? I could always do an external one later, if there's any call for it, I suppose Andy Well done anyway! David Hmmm... I've got a PC keyboard doing nothing... but it's some weird one with built

Re: Quick Question

1998-10-13 Thread David
Matthew Craven wrote: When actually is the show? It started at the middle of October and it seems has been gradually pushed back again and again. What is happening? Thanks, MJC. See http://nsss.home.ml.org/ for details of the NSSS - if that's the one u mean. David

Re: Saturday

1998-10-15 Thread David
Matthew Craven wrote: Who's going to Quedgeley on Saturday? Is anybody starting out from the south-east of England? I thought it was in the North? MJC. NO! That's the NSSS. see http://nsss.home.ml.org/ for details

Re: Under New Management

1998-10-15 Thread David
a damn sight more regularly then in the past ... and even still arse around in the odd coding. Maybe one of these days I'll finish programming one of my other projects too ;) David

Re: Samsgod

1998-10-15 Thread David
admittedly have pulled their fingers out sucessfully in the past) when some people are trying at least... Perhaps. David (who would love to go to Gloucester, but looks like he'll be stuck in a meeting regarding some new Monitor models all sodding day!)

Re: State of the SAM and SAM Community

1998-10-17 Thread David
it could prolong the life of the SAM by opening it up to a new market? Andy It's a very good idea, and it's on that Bruce had done in at least one form towards the end of SAMTech - i remember seeing the prototype at ZX92 remember seeing it Nev? Good idea. David

Re: Sam show?

1998-10-17 Thread David
. imc Sounds like there'll be more at Bolton http://nsss.home.ml.org/ David -- ++ | Persona Marketing Development, SAM CoupŠ | | Publishers. Email collected by D.Ledbury. | | Views expressed by David may not be those | | of Persona. http

Re: Hello

1998-10-17 Thread David
. --- Nick Humphries, [EMAIL PROTECTED], at your service Hello Nick! Nice to see another CSS regular on the list. Cursor disk wasn't that bad at all... David

Re: Bwahahahahaaaaa

1998-10-17 Thread David
Robert van der Veeke wrote: Van: Maria Rookyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Bwahahahaha Datum: Saturday, October 17, 1998 5:20 But why does Bob hold the copyright to Roberts emails? Oh it's all too confusing. Adding to the confusion, perhaps I am

Re: SAM show

1998-10-17 Thread David
Gavin Smith wrote: So what was it like? Any good? (M)any people? Any fights? Any drinking? And did Bob take the piss out of me in his little speechy thing again this time? -- I dunno, but against struggling to try to explain how not to plug a PII into a 486 motherboard, I think I'd have

Re: Bwahahahahaaaaa

1998-10-17 Thread David
David wrote: Robert van der Veeke wrote: Adding to the confusion, perhaps I am Bob Nope... I am Bob ;) Hold on... Robert? Bob? Oh no! He is Bob!

Re: Hello

1998-10-18 Thread David
], at your service Sound Machine IIR... Free for Blitz subscribers with issue 4 ;) David

Re: Sam show?

1998-10-18 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: On 17 Oct 98 16:20:56 +, Kevin Cooper said: Are you the one with the sort of long, dark hair? Yeah, I remember meeting you many moons ago at an All Formats fair in Haydock I do not recall ever going to an All Formats fair in Haydock... Perhaps it was Simon

Re: Hello

1998-10-18 Thread David
Nick Humphries wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:49:17 -0700 Sat, 17 Oct 98 23:12:08 BST, you wrote: Sound Machine IIR... Free for Blitz subscribers with issue 4 ;) Please tell me you're joking - that's like putting GAC on a magazine cover tape... I'm not joking.

Re: Sam show?

1998-10-18 Thread David
Simon Cooke wrote: I do not recall ever going to an All Formats fair in Haydock... Perhaps it was Simon Cooke. Or possibly Ian Slavin. Apart from the glasses, we both had a very similar line in hair and leather jackets. Simon Yeah, it sounds like it could be Axe.

Interesting case study? (Groan!)

1998-10-18 Thread David
- 3 slots), Quazar Sampler, 1 Meg i/f etc Any (sensible-ish) thoughts? Andrews Keyboard i/f could come in very handy here ;) David

Re: a

1998-10-18 Thread David
Maria Rookyard wrote: From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a Date: 17 October 1998 02:14 I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub myself with bacon-grease. Yourself? I just do the bacon-grease bit... Simon You

SAM SRAM board

1998-10-18 Thread david
I wonder if anyone can tell me if the Format SRAM board has been released yet? I'm actually quite keen on getting one for a little project I'm looking into... David (c) 1998 David Ledbury Use outside of this newsgroup is actually quite sad really, as in all honest it's not really worth

Re: Back on the net...

1998-10-18 Thread David
. Colin Piggot. Nice to see u back on line, and nice to see yet another on Claranet ;) David PS: Plug! The subscribers disk with issue 8 also has the full version of Stefan's Mod Player, complete with the source code to use it within your own programs ... this also works with the incredible

Re: test

1998-10-19 Thread David
Paul Walker wrote: 'scuse me, just one quick test. And here's another

Re: a

1998-10-19 Thread David
Maria Rookyard wrote: From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maria Rookyard wrote: From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub myself with bacon-grease. Yourself? I just do the bacon-grease bit... Simon

Re: About my ISP

1998-10-25 Thread David
tempted to try a sub to Format... Can anyone tell me if it's worthwhile? David

Re-casing... update

1998-10-26 Thread David
Compaq cases floating around (the PC's are crap, but the case is nice and streamlined ;) Be nice if I could get it all sorted for the NSSS save lugging around all those bloody interfaces ;) David

Re: Fueds 'n' Format (Was: About my ISP)

1998-10-26 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a shame all the old fueds continue. You would've thought that things would've worked themselves out over the last few very stressful weeks. The days were bad enough as it is without coming to work (I'm grateful that I still have a work to come to) to see one of

Re: Calling all vehicles

1998-10-29 Thread David
Robert van der Veeke wrote: [snip] :( I wish I could get there... sounds like some fun :( Have a good time all ;) David

Disk Controllers...

1998-10-29 Thread David
I know I've asked this before (but haven't had an answer yet :( but what's the difference between the 1771, 1791, 1793, 1795, 1797, 2793, 2797 and the hard-to-get-hold-of 1772? And the obvious question? Can any of these be used in place of the 1772? Ta David

Re: SAM projects?

1998-10-30 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon's apparently working on something called Statues of Ice ... *laughs* I'm not normally one to drool over demos.. But I /WANT/ to see this one!!! :) I think you might see my version of JSW first :( David

Re: SAM projects?

1998-10-30 Thread David
Maria Rookyard wrote: Simon's apparently working on something called Statues of Ice ... ;) Lee. Oooh, people can be *so* cruel ;-) Maria. I'm not the only bitchy one ;)

Re: FFF : Finally, FRED's Future.....?

1998-10-30 Thread David
David wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current situation is that although DW has signed a contract returning FRED to me, I have *not* yet signed it. Hence FRED still lies fully with him - all properties, copyrights and obligations. GB however, has not signed a contract

Re: SAM projects?

1998-10-30 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maria, why did you not bring this chocolate mouse to my 50th birthday party, Chocolate Mouse? ;) Yum, yum!

Re: SAM projects and things SAM related

1998-11-01 Thread David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. The northern SAM SPECCY SHOW will be held in NORWICH, nr BOLTON on the 28th NOVEMBER, Booking forms can be obtained from the above address. BTW - It's actually Horwich you'll find ;)

Re: SAM projects and things SAM related

1998-11-01 Thread David
like quite a decent turnout. Good! Worth me traveling to then. David

Re: SAM projects and things SAM related

1998-11-01 Thread David
Ian Collier wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:28:34 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PS. The northern SAM SPECCY SHOW will be held in NORWICH, nr BOLTON on the 28th NOVEMBER, Booking forms can be obtained from the above address. If Norwich is near Bolton then I should almost be able to

Hardware peeps...

1998-11-01 Thread David
So, how many people here are actually interested in tinkering with any SAM hardware?

Re: Hardware peeps...

1998-11-02 Thread David
D A Fulton wrote: So, how many people here are actually interested in tinkering with any SAM hardware? How do you mean? Dave. IE actually doing any serious building of new projects.

Re: SAM projects and things SAM related

1998-11-02 Thread David
Kevin Cooper wrote: Hi Folks... PS. The northern SAM SPECCY SHOW will be held in NORWICH, nr BOLTON on the 28th NOVEMBER, Booking forms can be obtained from the above address. That'll be Horwich is it? Kev. Yep, not Norwich :)

Re: Disk Controllers...

1998-11-02 Thread David
:) Question for Bob How far is this disk controller interface from construction? As the disk chip is one of the hardest parts for us to obtain for the SAM? And as I said before, can any of the previous chips listed above be used in any extent? David

Re: Elite

1998-11-05 Thread David
But luckily, Bob's just harmless. Mostly ;)

Re: NSSS Again!

1998-11-05 Thread David
, the shows on the 28th November see the link to the site from the Persona site on www.persona.clara.net David

Re: Elite

1998-11-06 Thread David
Robert van der Veeke wrote: As for Elite, it would definitly mean, taking it apart, see how it works. Can it be improved? and can we put extra options, missions, ships and other things to it? Have you seen Elite 2 on the Spectrum?

Re: Missing disk error.

1998-11-30 Thread David
-Original Message- From: Ian Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30 November 1998 11:09 Subject: Re: Missing disk error. Do Sam drives have rubber bands in them like the infamous +3 drives? imc Something like that... Wonder if it's dust? The

Re: YAWN!

1998-11-30 Thread David
Hey, my postings in uk.g-l-b aren't that exciting :) -Original Message- From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30 November 1998 20:57 Subject: Re: YAWN! Paul Walker wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Andrew Collier wrote: Alternatively, write

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