Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Marian Mlcoch, Ing
- From: Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jean-Paul ARGUDO [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks? On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:52, Bob Puff@NLE

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Jim Morris
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 03:56, Marian Mlcoch, Ing wrote: Thanks Jim for best report of oplock as i read. Super can be if you can add info or link about list of dangerous database engines for oplocks... Btw. Foxpro 2.6 = is ok. Foxpro 7.. = bad. Clipper= dangerous...

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Super can be if you can add info or link about list of dangerous database engines for oplocks... Btw. Foxpro 2.6 = is ok. Foxpro 7.. = bad. Clipper= dangerous... exist this list for off oplocks? Thanks. But unfortunately, its not that simple.I doubt for example that one

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Jim Morris
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 07:41, Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote: But, again, I cant bet on a technology. I'm not playing poker and cant do it with files where maybe all the business of my company is based on. Thats why I've disabled oplocks. I have had it disabled on all shared-file database extensions

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Jim Morris
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 08:20, Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote: I read this option in smb docs. Looks great. But in my case, since I have users yet only working on M$ Office standard, to put a veto for oplocks on .doc and .xls files equals disable oplocks :-)) I understand. Other question: is veto

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-19 Thread Marian Mlcoch, Ing
Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks? On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 03:56, Marian Mlcoch, Ing wrote: Thanks Jim for best report of oplock as i read. Super can be if you can add info or link about list

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Joel Hammer
oplocks are great when they work. So, they can be left on. But, some times that can result in corrupted files back on the server if the client machine and the server lose contact with each other. Experiment and see. oplocks can be enabled on a per share basis, I believe. A lot may depend on the

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Jean-Paul ARGUDO
But, some times that can result in corrupted files back on the server if... ... no need to say more :-) IMHO, this is a real good reason to disable oplocks. I don't believe that in a production environment one could take such a risk. I personaly had Excel files corrupted. Had to take it back

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If Samba is corrupting the data files, then why wouldn't this be turned OFF by default? I would think data corruption would be a major, MAJOR problem, and reduce the usability of Samba. Is this really true? Bob On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:43:06 +0100, Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote But, some times that

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Jay Ts
Bob Puff@NLE wrote: If Samba is corrupting the data files, It is not Samba that is corrupting the files, but the clients, which fail to handle oplocks correctly. then why wouldn't this be turned OFF by default? I would think data corruption would be a major, MAJOR problem, and reduce the

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Trey Nolen
If Samba is corrupting the data files, then why wouldn't this be turned OFF by default? I would think data corruption would be a major, MAJOR problem, and reduce the usability of Samba. Is this really true? Yep, it's true. There has been a lot of discussion on it. Check over the archives.

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Jim Morris
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:52, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: If Samba is corrupting the data files, then why wouldn't this be turned OFF by default? I would think data corruption would be a major, MAJOR problem, and reduce the usability of Samba. Is this really true? It comes down to the fact that

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread John H Terpstra
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Jim Morris wrote: I'll hazard a bet that if one were to examine the Netware IPX/SPX protocol, it is nowhere nearly as convoluted and ad-hoc as the SMB protocol, which Microsoft hodge-podged together. You really have to step back and think about the amount of effort

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Jim Morris
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 11:24, John H Terpstra wrote: Keep in mind that NetWare can use IPX/SPX but more likely, for a number of years now is using NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) over TCP/IP. NCP is a well oiled machine compared with CIFS. However, when in Rome ... ie: If all your clients speak

Re: [Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-18 Thread Brad
Hi Bob. I had never had anything to do with the oplocks switch with routine samba shares for file access, but I recently commissioned a new Samba server (Red Hat 8.0) which is running a Windows time and attendance database and we had intermittent problems opening a database session from

[Samba] How important are oplocks?

2002-12-17 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I'm wondering just how critical it really is to turn off oplocks. It appears that not only Windows 2k server, but also Netware 5 and above defaults to having these enabled. I just spoke with two software companies running databases off of file servers (no database server, just MDAC