Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread Jan Kellerhoff
Now why don't you just use D-Spam as recommended before? Now I get more Spam on this list, because of this discussion, than the Nazi-Spam ever was. D-Spam solves the problem. But I can't tell it now, that this discussion is Spam, because then I would risk to loose non Nazi-Spam samba-mails. So

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread Jeff Saxton
C'mom everyone, the complaints about this are starting to generate more noise than the spam. Jan Kellerhoff wrote: Now why don't you just use D-Spam as recommended before? Now I get more Spam on this list, because of this discussion, than the Nazi-Spam ever was. D-Spam solves the problem. But I

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread David Brodbeck
-Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd go further and cut down on membership to people emailing from non-Windows systems (including Webmail systems, until someone invents a worm that spreads through those...) Okay, I'm sorry, but that's the dumbest idea yet.

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread JLB
On Tue, 17 May 2005, David Brodbeck wrote: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:31:38 -0400 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd go

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread David Brodbeck
-Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Having Windows and transmitting emails from a Windows machine are two totally different things. Many Windows users use Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, corporate Webmail, etc. Actually, according to p0f, Hotmail is running Windows

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
søn, 15.05.2005 kl. 18.46 skrev Jerome Alet: Personally I kill this stuff with dspam, thanks to my MTA Postfix. Same as with all the other spam and shit that gets posted here. I too use DSpam. DSpam is VERY good, however it voluntarily takes into account the messages' headers during

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 May 2005, Jerome Alet wrote: Hi, On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 11:41:36PM +1000, Andrew Bartlett wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 15:00 +0200, Lars Grobe wrote: Unfortunately we are all to well aware of this problem, but as the long-

Re: **** SPAM **** 6.5: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Kevin M. Barrett
At 08:36 AM 5/16/2005, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What about ... changing this long standing policy ??? (I've already read the reson for the actual policy) If its not spam, then it will be virus that forge headers and claim to come from a list members

Re: **** SPAM **** 6.5: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin M. Barrett wrote: | | Has any consideration been made to converting the | list to a forum? There's already Samba forums around so another one would not be extremely helpful IMO. Plus the preference for forum vs. mailing list is linked to

Re: **** SPAM **** 6.5: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Ronan Waide
On May 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: All Has any consideration been made to converting the list to a forum? in that way everyone can just check the web site instead of checking the inbox? For those folk who rather read the mail most forum software can Somewhat off-topic for the list, and

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Mon, 16 May 2005, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: If its not spam, then it will be virus that forge headers and claim to come from a list members address. There is no silver bullet to solve this issue without moderating every post. But if the policy was only subscriber posting then, we would know

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Andrew Bartlett wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 15:00 +0200, Lars Grobe wrote: Hi, whoever is able to unsubscribe addresses from the list: I am currently getting lots of spam with nazi content over this mailing list. Unfortunately we are all to well aware of this problem, but as the long- standing

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Mark Irving
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel S. Haischt Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:56 AM To: Andrew Bartlett Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lars Grobe Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address Andrew Bartlett

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Ed Kasky
At 09:50 AM Monday, 5/16/2005, you wrote -= On Mon, 16 May 2005, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: If its not spam, then it will be virus that forge headers and claim to come from a list members address. There is no silver bullet to solve this issue without moderating every post. But if the policy was

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Jason Pyeron
And add the reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED], there is too much accidental off list traffic. -Jason Pyeron On Mon, 16 May 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: At 09:50 AM Monday, 5/16/2005, you wrote -= On Mon, 16 May 2005, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: If its not spam, then it will be virus that forge headers and

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread David Brodbeck
-Original Message- From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And add the reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED], there is too much accidental off list traffic. I disagree. Changing it will create accidental on-list traffic, which inconveniences far more people. It's not like replying to

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Jason Pyeron
I dont care anymore, bye. On Mon, 16 May 2005, David Brodbeck wrote: And add the reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED], there is too much accidental off list traffic. I disagree. Changing it will create accidental on-list traffic, which inconveniences far more people. It's not like replying to the list is

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Ronan Waide
On May 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Basically if re-training your SPAM filter does not help and one really wants to get rid of all those junk mails, installing a challenge/response system like TMDA behind a statistical filter (e.g. DSPAM) would be a possible solution ... Please don't do

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hey, yesterday (on 05/15/2005 at 15:41) you noticed: AB I'm sorry we can't do much more about this, AFAI can see from the headers, samba.org uses Spamassassin. There is already a cf-file available to filter this current nazi-stuff. I use it for a day now and it works well so far. No solution

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread John E. Malmberg
Daniel S. Haischt wrote: Basically if re-training your SPAM filter does not help and one really wants to get rid of all those junk mails, installing a challenge/response system like TMDA behind a statistical filter (e.g. DSPAM) would be a possible solution ... No. All that a challenge response

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Ed Kasky
At 11:19 AM Monday, 5/16/2005, Jason Pyeron wrote -= And add the reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED], there is too much accidental off list traffic. -Jason Pyeron On Mon, 16 May 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: At 09:50 AM Monday, 5/16/2005, you wrote -= On Mon, 16 May 2005, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: If its not

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread JLB
On Mon, 16 May 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:47:34 -0700 From: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address Resent-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: Jason Pyeron [EMAIL

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread JLB
On Mon, 16 May 2005, JLB wrote: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:52:30 -0400 (EDT) From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address On Mon, 16 May 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: Date: Mon

RE: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Tom Wolfe
Good idea! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:54 PM To: Ed Kasky Cc: Jason Pyeron; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address On Mon, 16 May 2005, JLB wrote: Date: Mon

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Jason Pyeron
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address On Mon, 16 May 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:47:34 -0700 From: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address Resent-Date: Mon, 16 May

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Eric Hines
Locking out the Windows folks is counterproductive--those are exactly the ones we're trying to attract away from MS, for that's the only way we'll beat MS--by converting its customers. And now I'm done with this thread; I'm more interested in learning Samba. Eric Hines At 05/16/05 21:12, you

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-16 Thread Michael J. Welch, Ph.D.
On Monday 16 May 2005 19:29, Eric Hines wrote: Locking out the Windows folks is counterproductive--those are exactly the ones we're trying to attract away from MS, for that's the only way we'll beat MS--by converting its customers. Everybody who receives this samba email signed up for it. Why

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Jerome Alet
Hi, On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 11:41:36PM +1000, Andrew Bartlett wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 15:00 +0200, Lars Grobe wrote: Unfortunately we are all to well aware of this problem, but as the long- standing policy of samba.org lists is to allow public posting, we are between a rock and a hard

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Adam Cody
Or offering a simple rebuttal I watched this recently : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/camp/ Memory of the Camps , you can watch the whole thing online. Those who haven't seen it might want to, especially if you haven't been to a holocaust memorial. adam On 5/15/05, Jerome Alet [EMAIL

change list post policy was: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Jason Pyeron
How can we go about changing the long standing policy of anyone can post? Do we need a vote? if so who can vote and what percentage would be needed? Does one person make a decision? if so who? -Jason Pyeron -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -

Re: change list post policy was: Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Wolfgang Ratzka
Jason Pyeron wrote: How can we go about changing the long standing policy of anyone can post? Do we need a vote? if so who can vote and what percentage would be needed? Does one person make a decision? if so who? I don't think this decision is needed. Someone just needs to update the

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
søn, 15.05.2005 kl. 16.38 skrev Adam Cody: Or offering a simple rebuttal I watched this recently : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/camp/ Memory of the Camps , you can watch the whole thing online. Those who haven't seen it might want to, especially if you haven't been to a

Re: [Samba] Re: nazi spam in German over list address

2005-05-15 Thread Jerome Alet
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:21:08PM +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: Personally I kill this stuff with dspam, thanks to my MTA Postfix. Same as with all the other spam and shit that gets posted here. I too use DSpam. DSpam is VERY good, however it voluntarily takes into account the messages'