Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-14 Thread Michael Wood
On 14 September 2012 06:48, Ricky Nance ricky.na...@weaubleau.k12.mo.us wrote:
 Maybe this will help ;) I also cleaned up references to 'beta'.

Not sure if some of those should say RC1 instead of just Samba 4.0.

Also, you have an extra space at the start of the line in this part:

 If you are upgrading, or looking to develop, test or deploy Samba 4.0
-beta releases, you should backup all configuration and data.
+ releases, you should backup all configuration and data.

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Scott Lovenberg
 scott.lovenb...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Karolin Seeger ksee...@samba.org wrote:
 [...]
  - Domain member support in the 'samba' binary is in it's infancy, and
is not comparable to the support found in winbindd.  As such, do not
use the 'samba' binary (provided for the AD server) on a member
server.

 Stupid bug report, its should be used above, not it's.  You want
 the possessive, not the contraction.
 Just for future RC release notes (it's been bothering me since the
 later beta release notes). :)

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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-14 Thread Karolin Seeger
Hi Scott,

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:55:55PM -0400, Scott Lovenberg wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Karolin Seeger ksee...@samba.org wrote:
 [...]
  - Domain member support in the 'samba' binary is in it's infancy, and
is not comparable to the support found in winbindd.  As such, do not
use the 'samba' binary (provided for the AD server) on a member
server.
 
 Stupid bug report, its should be used above, not it's.  You want
 the possessive, not the contraction.
 Just for future RC release notes (it's been bothering me since the
 later beta release notes). :)

right, thanks for reporting!
A patch has been pushed to autobuild.

Cheers,
Karolin

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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-14 Thread Karolin Seeger
Hi Ricky,

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:48:44PM -0500, Ricky Nance wrote:
 Maybe this will help ;) I also cleaned up references to 'beta'.

thanks for reporting and providing the patch!
Your changes have been pushed to autobuild (together with other fixes).

Thanks!

Cheers,
Karolin

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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-14 Thread Ricky Nance
Maybe this will help ;) I also cleaned up references to 'beta'.

Ricky

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Scott Lovenberg
scott.lovenb...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Karolin Seeger ksee...@samba.org wrote:
 [...]
  - Domain member support in the 'samba' binary is in it's infancy, and
is not comparable to the support found in winbindd.  As such, do not
use the 'samba' binary (provided for the AD server) on a member
server.

 Stupid bug report, its should be used above, not it's.  You want
 the possessive, not the contraction.
 Just for future RC release notes (it's been bothering me since the
 later beta release notes). :)

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 -Scott.




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[Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread Karolin Seeger
Release Announcements
-

This is the first release candidate of Samba 4.0.0!  This is *not*
intended for production environments and is designed for testing
purposes only.  Please report any defects via the Samba bug reporting
system at https://bugzilla.samba.org/.


What's new in Samba 4.0.0rc1
=

Samba 4.0 will be the next version of the Samba suite and incorporates
all the technology found in both the Samba4 alpha series and the
stable 3.x series. The primary additional features over Samba 3.6 are
support for the Active Directory logon protocols used by Windows 2000
and above.


WARNINGS


Samba 4.0.0rc1 is not a final Samba release, however we are now making
good progress towards a Samba 4.0 release.

This release contains the best of all of Samba's
technology parts, both a file server (that you can reasonably expect
to upgrade existing Samba 3.x releases to) and the AD domain
controller work previously known as 'samba4'.

Samba 4.0 is subjected to an awesome battery of tests on an automated
basis, we have found Samba 4.0 to be very stable in it's behaviour.
However, as with all our pre-releases we still recommend against
upgrading production servers from Samba 3.x release to Samba 4.0.0rc1
at this stage.

If you are upgrading, or looking to develop, test or deploy Samba 4.0.0
release candidates, you should backup all configuration and data.


UPGRADING
=

Users upgrading from Samba 3.x domain controllers and wanting to use
Samba 4.0 as an AD DC should use the 'samba-tool domain
classicupgrade' command.  See the wiki for more details:
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/samba3upgrade/HOWTO

Users upgrading from Samba 4.0 alpha and beta releases since alpha15
should run 'samba-tool dbcheck --cross-ncs --fix' before re-starting
Samba.  Users upgrading from earlier alpha releases should contact the
team for advice.

Users upgrading an AD DC from any previous release should run
'samba-tool ntacl sysvolreset' to re-sync ACLs on the sysvol share
with those matching the GPOs in LDAP and the defaults from an initial
provision.  This will set an underlying POSIX ACL if required (eg not
using the NTVFS file server).

If you used the BIND9_FLATFILE or BIND9_DLZ features,
you'll have to add '-dns' to the 'server services' option,
as the internal dns server (SAMBA_INTERNAL) is the default now.


NEW FEATURES


Samba 4.0 supports the server-side of the Active Directory logon
environment used by Windows 2000 and later, so we can do full domain
join and domain logon operations with these clients.

Our Domain Controller (DC) implementation includes our own built-in
LDAP server and Kerberos Key Distribution Center (KDC) as well as the
Samba3-like logon services provided over CIFS.  We correctly generate
the infamous Kerberos PAC, and include it with the Kerberos tickets we
issue.

Samba 4.0 ships with two distinct file servers.  We now use the
file server from the Samba 3.x series 'smbd' for all file serving by
default.

Samba 4.0 also ships with the 'NTVFS' file server.  This file server
is what was used in all previous alpha releases of Samba 4.0, and is
tuned to match the requirements of an AD domain controller.  We
continue to support this, not only to provide continuity to
installations that have deployed it as part of an AD DC, but also as a
running example of the NT-FSA architecture we expect to move smbd to in
the longer term.

For pure file server work, the binaries users would expect from that
series (nmbd, winbindd, smbpasswd) continue to be available.  When
running an AD DC, you only need to run 'samba' (not
nmbd/smbd/winbind), as the required services are co-coordinated by this
master binary.

As DNS is an integral part of Active Directory, we also provide two DNS
solutions, a simple internal DNS server for 'out of the box' configurations
and a more elaborate BIND plugin using the BIND DLZ mechanism in versions
9.8 and 9.9. During the provision, you can select which backend to use.
With the internal backend, your DNS server is good to go.
If you chose the BIND_DLZ backend, a configuration file will be generated
for bind to make it use this plugin, as well as a file explaining how to
set up bind.

To provide accurate timestamps to Windows clients, we integrate with
the NTP project to provide secured NTP replies.  To use you need to
start ntpd and configure it with the 'restrict ... ms-sntp' and
ntpsigndsocket options.

Finally, a new scripting interface has been added to Samba 4, allowing
Python programs to interface to Samba's internals, and many tools and
internal workings of the DC code is now implemented in python.


CHANGES SINCE beta8
===

For a list of changes since beta8, please see the git log.

$ git clone git://git.samba.org/samba.git
$ cd samba.git
$ git log samba-4.0.0beta8..samba-4.0.0rc1

Some major user-visible changes include:

- The smbd file server now offers SMB3 as the maximum protocol
  by 

Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread steve

On 13/09/12 12:40, Karolin Seeger wrote:

Release Announcements


Is the Internal DNS now the default?

I upgraded from beta 8 and could only get the samba binary to work if I 
stopped by distro's bind configured with bind dlz Here it is with bind 
working:


failed to bind to fe80::212:f0ff:fe06:9cda%eth1:53 TCP - 
NT_STATUS_ADDRESS_ALREADY_ASSOCIATED

task_server_terminate: [dns failed to setup interfaces]
standard_terminate: reason[dns failed to setup interfaces]
/usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd: smbd version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-9158423 started.


If I turn off bind, I lose my Internet connection.

Please be clear.

Cheers,
Steve
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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread Rowland Penny

On 13/09/12 17:34, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 12:40, Karolin Seeger wrote:

Release Announcements


Is the Internal DNS now the default?

I upgraded from beta 8 and could only get the samba binary to work if 
I stopped by distro's bind configured with bind dlz Here it is with 
bind working:


failed to bind to fe80::212:f0ff:fe06:9cda%eth1:53 TCP - 
NT_STATUS_ADDRESS_ALREADY_ASSOCIATED

task_server_terminate: [dns failed to setup interfaces]
standard_terminate: reason[dns failed to setup interfaces]
/usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd: smbd version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-9158423 started.


If I turn off bind, I lose my Internet connection.

Please be clear.

Cheers,
Steve


Hi Steve, yes the internal dns server is now the default, is that clear 
enough ;-)


But this from the annoucement isn't:


As DNS is an integral part of Active Directory, we also provide two DNS
solutions, a simple internal DNS server for 'out of the box' configurations
and a more elaborate BIND plugin using the BIND DLZ mechanism in versions
9.8 and 9.9. During the provision, you can select which backend to use.
With the internal backend, your DNS server is good to go.
If you chose the BIND_DLZ backend, a configuration file will be generated
for bind to make it use this plugin, as well as a file explaining how to
set up bind.


Yes, you have a choice but how?

And it gets worse, if you do not choose, it defaults to the internal and 
adds a dns forwarder line based (I believe) on what is in your 
/etc/resolv.conf and when you change this file to point towards 
127.0.0.1 as you would for bind it doesn't work. You have to add the 
line 'interfaces = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.5' to smb.conf to get it to work.


Have fun.

Rowland



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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread steve

On 13/09/12 18:47, Rowland Penny wrote:

On 13/09/12 17:34, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 12:40, Karolin Seeger wrote:

Release Announcements


Is the Internal DNS now the default?

I upgraded from beta 8 and could only get the samba binary to work if
I stopped by distro's bind configured with bind dlz Here it is with
bind working:

failed to bind to fe80::212:f0ff:fe06:9cda%eth1:53 TCP -
NT_STATUS_ADDRESS_ALREADY_ASSOCIATED
task_server_terminate: [dns failed to setup interfaces]
standard_terminate: reason[dns failed to setup interfaces]
/usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd: smbd version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-9158423 started.


If I turn off bind, I lose my Internet connection.

Please be clear.

Cheers,
Steve


Hi Steve, yes the internal dns server is now the default, is that clear
enough ;-)
Not for us. No. we need to what to do and what to change to make it the 
default. Just tell us.



Yes, you have a choice but how?


Answered in my last inline.


And it gets worse,


Yeah, I know it does. Try explaining it to 10 irate Spaniards.





Thanks Rowland
No. That's the point. Having followed the discussions for the last week 
it seemed highly unlikely Kai would get anywhere near the RC1. It 
doesn't add a forwarder nor interfaces line nor warn you that after the 
upgrade to the RC you have to work out how to add these yourself. And 
lets be fair, it most probably would do if we built and provisioned from 
new. I've 2000 + users just started a new term over here and I want to 
move forward, not roll back.


Ah well, the air-con goes off in 10 minutes and I'm going home;)
Cheers,
Steve


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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread Rowland Penny

On 13/09/12 18:33, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 18:47, Rowland Penny wrote:

On 13/09/12 17:34, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 12:40, Karolin Seeger wrote:

Release Announcements


Is the Internal DNS now the default?

I upgraded from beta 8 and could only get the samba binary to work if
I stopped by distro's bind configured with bind dlz Here it is with
bind working:

failed to bind to fe80::212:f0ff:fe06:9cda%eth1:53 TCP -
NT_STATUS_ADDRESS_ALREADY_ASSOCIATED
task_server_terminate: [dns failed to setup interfaces]
standard_terminate: reason[dns failed to setup interfaces]
/usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd: smbd version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-9158423 started.


If I turn off bind, I lose my Internet connection.

Please be clear.

Cheers,
Steve


Hi Steve, yes the internal dns server is now the default, is that clear
enough ;-)
Not for us. No. we need to what to do and what to change to make it 
the default. Just tell us.



Yes, you have a choice but how?


Answered in my last inline.


And it gets worse,


Yeah, I know it does. Try explaining it to 10 irate Spaniards.





Thanks Rowland
No. That's the point. Having followed the discussions for the last 
week it seemed highly unlikely Kai would get anywhere near the RC1. It 
doesn't add a forwarder nor interfaces line nor warn you that after 
the upgrade to the RC you have to work out how to add these yourself. 
And lets be fair, it most probably would do if we built and 
provisioned from new. I've 2000 + users just started a new term over 
here and I want to move forward, not roll back.


Ah well, the air-con goes off in 10 minutes and I'm going home;)
Cheers,
Steve


Steve, if you download the RC1 from 
http://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/rc/samba-4.0.0rc1.tar.gz

compile it as usual and then provision, but with the new style provision:

samba-tool domain provision --realm=your realm --domain=YOURDOMAIN 
--adminpass=pass --use-rfc2307 --server-role=dc


You will end up using the internal dns server, this puts a forwarder 
into smb.conf and works provided that you put the servers ipaddress into 
/etc/resolv.conf not 127.0.0.1


Rowland


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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread steve

On 13/09/12 20:17, Rowland Penny wrote:

On 13/09/12 18:33, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 18:47, Rowland Penny wrote:

On 13/09/12 17:34, steve wrote:

On 13/09/12 12:40, Karolin Seeger wrote:

Release Announcements


Is the Internal DNS now the default?

I upgraded from beta 8 and could only get the samba binary to work if
I stopped by distro's bind configured with bind dlz Here it is with
bind working:

failed to bind to fe80::212:f0ff:fe06:9cda%eth1:53 TCP -
NT_STATUS_ADDRESS_ALREADY_ASSOCIATED
task_server_terminate: [dns failed to setup interfaces]
standard_terminate: reason[dns failed to setup interfaces]
/usr/local/samba/sbin/smbd: smbd version 4.1.0pre1-GIT-9158423 started.


If I turn off bind, I lose my Internet connection.

Please be clear.

Cheers,
Steve


Hi Steve, yes the internal dns server is now the default, is that clear
enough ;-)

Not for us. No. we need to what to do and what to change to make it
the default. Just tell us.


Yes, you have a choice but how?


Answered in my last inline.


And it gets worse,


Yeah, I know it does. Try explaining it to 10 irate Spaniards.





Thanks Rowland
No. That's the point. Having followed the discussions for the last
week it seemed highly unlikely Kai would get anywhere near the RC1. It
doesn't add a forwarder nor interfaces line nor warn you that after
the upgrade to the RC you have to work out how to add these yourself.
And lets be fair, it most probably would do if we built and
provisioned from new. I've 2000 + users just started a new term over
here and I want to move forward, not roll back.

Ah well, the air-con goes off in 10 minutes and I'm going home;)
Cheers,
Steve



Steve, if you download the RC1 from
http://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/rc/samba-4.0.0rc1.tar.gz
compile it as usual and then provision, but with the new style provision:

samba-tool domain provision --realm=your realm --domain=YOURDOMAIN
--adminpass=pass --use-rfc2307 --server-role=dc

You will end up using the internal dns server, this puts a forwarder
into smb.conf and works provided that you put the servers ipaddress into
/etc/resolv.conf not 127.0.0.1

Rowland



Hi Rowland
Thanks for that but I can't reporovision. Who can? I have 150 linux, xp 
and w7 clients to support. I simply cannot start from bare metal.


To be able to do that I would have to have a reliable backup. Evidently 
neither the backup scripts in samba-master nor rsync can do that at the 
moment. (secretly hopes someone can confirm otherwise)


Anyway. Early days. Again!
Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 9/13/12, steve st...@steve-ss.com wrote:

 Thanks for that but I can't reporovision. Who can? I have 150 linux, xp
 and w7 clients to support. I simply cannot start from bare metal.

 To be able to do that I would have to have a reliable backup. Evidently
 neither the backup scripts in samba-master nor rsync can do that at the
 moment. (secretly hopes someone can confirm otherwise)

Steve, you sh'ld read the original letter better :)

If you used the BIND9_FLATFILE or BIND9_DLZ features,
you'll have to add '-dns' to the 'server services' option,
as the internal dns server (SAMBA_INTERNAL) is the default now.
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Re: [Samba] [Announce] Samba 4.0.0rc1 Available for Download

2012-09-13 Thread Scott Lovenberg
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Karolin Seeger ksee...@samba.org wrote:
[...]
 - Domain member support in the 'samba' binary is in it's infancy, and
   is not comparable to the support found in winbindd.  As such, do not
   use the 'samba' binary (provided for the AD server) on a member
   server.

Stupid bug report, its should be used above, not it's.  You want
the possessive, not the contraction.
Just for future RC release notes (it's been bothering me since the
later beta release notes). :)

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