Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread J. L. Cabral
Dear, If I have a Windows XP box joined to a Domain called Company
with a user Jelo I as you:

Do I have to put Workgroup = Company in smb.conf ???

And do I have to use the same passwords for the Windows and
Linux/Samba users ???

Thanks a lot,

JeLo



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:


 What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
 password as used in Windows or not ???

 I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
 user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
 when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
 and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
 logged in.
 Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
 regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
 might be there without your user listed, for example).


 Thanks a lot,

 JeLo

 Bob Miller
 334-7117/660-5315
 http://computerisms.ca
 b...@computerisms.ca
 Network, Internet, Server,
 and Open Source Solutions


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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread Bob Miller
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:01 -0300, J. L. Cabral wrote:
 Dear, If I have a Windows XP box joined to a Domain called Company
 with a user Jelo I as you:
 
 Do I have to put Workgroup = Company in smb.conf ???

Yes.

 
 And do I have to use the same passwords for the Windows and
 Linux/Samba users ???

In a domain context, this question doesn't make sense to me.  You don't
really have windows users in a domain, you have domain users.
I found just about everything I needed to know about samba and domains
here:
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/

 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 JeLo
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:
 
 
  What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
  password as used in Windows or not ???
 
  I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
  user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
  when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
  and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
  logged in.
  Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
  regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
  might be there without your user listed, for example).
 
 
  Thanks a lot,
 
  JeLo
 
  Bob Miller
  334-7117/660-5315
  http://computerisms.ca
  b...@computerisms.ca
  Network, Internet, Server,
  and Open Source Solutions
 
 

Bob Miller
334-7117/660-5315
http://computerisms.ca
b...@computerisms.ca
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and Open Source Solutions

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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread J. L. Cabral
Dear, I've seen an implementation where the Windows desktops belong to
Company.com domain and the Samba server was a stand-alone server
with workgroup = SALES, and Windows clients access to Samba
resources succesfully.

I mean here the Samba's workgroup is different from Windows' domain,
so is this implementation ok ???

Thanks again

JeLo

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:01 -0300, J. L. Cabral wrote:
 Dear, If I have a Windows XP box joined to a Domain called Company
 with a user Jelo I as you:

 Do I have to put Workgroup = Company in smb.conf ???

 Yes.


 And do I have to use the same passwords for the Windows and
 Linux/Samba users ???

 In a domain context, this question doesn't make sense to me.  You don't
 really have windows users in a domain, you have domain users.
 I found just about everything I needed to know about samba and domains
 here:
 http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/


 Thanks a lot,

 JeLo



 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:
 
 
  What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
  password as used in Windows or not ???
 
  I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
  user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
  when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
  and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
  logged in.
  Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
  regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
  might be there without your user listed, for example).
 
 
  Thanks a lot,
 
  JeLo
 
  Bob Miller
  334-7117/660-5315
  http://computerisms.ca
  b...@computerisms.ca
  Network, Internet, Server,
  and Open Source Solutions
 
 

 Bob Miller
 334-7117/660-5315
 http://computerisms.ca
 b...@computerisms.ca
 Network, Internet, Server,
 and Open Source Solutions


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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Weiss
at the most basic level a domain is a workgroup with a central auth
server, so yes, you set the samba workgroup to the domain

you can manually maintain linux users, which you will find fiddly and
tedious, or you can join the samba server to the domain as well and
have it use the central auth server too

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM, J. L. Cabral jelocab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear, I've seen an implementation where the Windows desktops belong to
 Company.com domain and the Samba server was a stand-alone server
 with workgroup = SALES, and Windows clients access to Samba
 resources succesfully.

 I mean here the Samba's workgroup is different from Windows' domain,
 so is this implementation ok ???

 Thanks again

 JeLo

 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:01 -0300, J. L. Cabral wrote:
 Dear, If I have a Windows XP box joined to a Domain called Company
 with a user Jelo I as you:

 Do I have to put Workgroup = Company in smb.conf ???

 Yes.


 And do I have to use the same passwords for the Windows and
 Linux/Samba users ???

 In a domain context, this question doesn't make sense to me.  You don't
 really have windows users in a domain, you have domain users.
 I found just about everything I needed to know about samba and domains
 here:
 http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/


 Thanks a lot,

 JeLo



 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Bob Miller b...@computerisms.ca wrote:
 
 
  What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
  password as used in Windows or not ???
 
  I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
  user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
  when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
  and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
  logged in.
  Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
  regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
  might be there without your user listed, for example).
 
 
  Thanks a lot,
 
  JeLo
 
  Bob Miller
  334-7117/660-5315
  http://computerisms.ca
  b...@computerisms.ca
  Network, Internet, Server,
  and Open Source Solutions
 
 

 Bob Miller
 334-7117/660-5315
 http://computerisms.ca
 b...@computerisms.ca
 Network, Internet, Server,
 and Open Source Solutions


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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
If you have a Windows of Samba machine that is not a domain member,  
having the workgroup name match the domain name will make browsing for 
resources easier.


If you have Windows or Samba machine that is not a domain member, using 
the same password for the local account as the domain accounts should 
not be essential but should make life easier.If the passwords don't 
match, you may sometimes need to use the net use . on the windows 
machine to disconnect from the samba server and then reconnect with the 
correct credentials (e.g. SAMBASERVER\yourname rather that 
DOMAINNAME\yourname.)



If you samba server already has local unix acounts defined,  and you 
want to join the samba server to the domain, you will have to decide how 
to either phase out the local unix accounts or make sure the uid's 
between the local and domain accout accounts match up.



On 01/28/2011 03:10 PM, Chris Weiss wrote:

at the most basic level a domain is a workgroup with a central auth
server, so yes, you set the samba workgroup to the domain

you can manually maintain linux users, which you will find fiddly and
tedious, or you can join the samba server to the domain as well and
have it use the central auth server too

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM, J. L. Cabraljelocab...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Dear, I've seen an implementation where the Windows desktops belong to
Company.com domain and the Samba server was a stand-alone server
with workgroup = SALES, and Windows clients access to Samba
resources succesfully.

I mean here the Samba's workgroup is different from Windows' domain,
so is this implementation ok ???

Thanks again

JeLo

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Bob Millerb...@computerisms.ca  wrote:
 

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:01 -0300, J. L. Cabral wrote:
   

Dear, If I have a Windows XP box joined to a Domain called Company
with a user Jelo I as you:

Do I have to put Workgroup = Company in smb.conf ???
 

Yes.

   

And do I have to use the same passwords for the Windows and
Linux/Samba users ???
 

In a domain context, this question doesn't make sense to me.  You don't
really have windows users in a domain, you have domain users.
I found just about everything I needed to know about samba and domains
here:
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/

   

Thanks a lot,

JeLo



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Bob Millerb...@computerisms.ca  wrote:
 
   

What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
password as used in Windows or not ???
 

I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
logged in.
Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
might be there without your user listed, for example).

   

Thanks a lot,

JeLo
 

Bob Miller
334-7117/660-5315
http://computerisms.ca
b...@computerisms.ca
Network, Internet, Server,
and Open Source Solutions


   

Bob Miller
334-7117/660-5315
http://computerisms.ca
b...@computerisms.ca
Network, Internet, Server,
and Open Source Solutions


   

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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Smith
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, J. L. Cabral jelocab...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've seen an implementation where the Windows desktops belong to
 Company.com domain and the Samba server was a stand-alone server
 with workgroup = SALES, and Windows clients access to Samba
 resources succesfully.

 I mean here the Samba's workgroup is different from Windows' domain,
 so is this implementation ok ???

Don't confuse a DNS (or Internet or AD) domain and a NetBIOS domain. A
NetBIOS domain is flat, non-hierarchical, no dots and it has little to
do with its hierarchical cousin. It is a common configuration to have
a DNS domain of example.com and a NetBIOS workgroup or domain of
EXAMPLE but there's no rule or necessity to do so, the workgroup
could easily be called BUTTERCUP instead with no operating
difference.

Chris
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[Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-27 Thread J. L. Cabral
Dear, I have Debian + Samba and I've created a smb.conf in order to
authenticate users I've created with useradd -s /bin/false and after
that added to samba with smbpasswd -a user.

I've created the share in /var/share with rwxrwxrwx.

I edited some lines from smb.conf in GLOBAL and SHARE sections.

I use:

security = user

but when from the Windows machine I access the share resource:

net use W: \\sambahost\share with samba user y pass

I get Access denied but I can see the resource.

What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
password as used in Windows or not ???

Thanks a lot,

JeLo
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Re: [Samba] Basic question for user/pass authentication

2011-01-27 Thread Bob Miller

 
 What can be the problem ??? Do I have to use for Samba the same
 password as used in Windows or not ???

I have found that it is just easier to use the same credentials for each
user on all machines in a workgroup.  Windows is pretty quirky about
when it will allow you to use alternate credentials, in my experience,
and Windows always prefers to use the credentials of the user who is
logged in.
Also, check your smb.conf, there are directives that can lock you out
regardless of correct user credentials or file permissions, (valid users
might be there without your user listed, for example).

 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 JeLo

Bob Miller
334-7117/660-5315
http://computerisms.ca
b...@computerisms.ca
Network, Internet, Server,
and Open Source Solutions

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