[Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
I'm banging my head against the wall here with a problem that I have. I have one Samba 3 server on a linux box with 2 ethernet interfaces, each given a different subnet. The same box does dhcp leases on both networks, with wins option pointing to this server. Firewall was configured to allow the best unobtrusive communication between the two subnets, I can ping between the subnets and receive response, I can also access some other services, like http, from one subnet to the other. I have setup on this server a common Public share, which works. Now I'm trying to get the Samba PC from subnet 1 to see the Samba PC from subnet 2 and viceversa, but to no avail. On subnet 1 I can see access the server via it's NetBIOS name, but on subnet 2 I can only see the server and access it via it's IP. No other Samba PC's can be seen across the subnets! All pc's have the same workgroup. What to enable in configuration in order to be able to do cross subnet browsing with samba ? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
Is samba bound to a subnet1 interface only or all interfaces. Can subnet2 clients connect to samba via either IP? Are subnet2 clients supposed to be using samba services via the subnet1 IP or the subnet2 IP on the server?The first would involve going thru the firewall, which seems unnecessary with a dual homed samba server.The 2nd, however, probably rules out using WINS for the subnet2 clients since you would NOT want traffic going thru the firewall. What IP are the clients on subnet2 using for a WINS server? Can you try having the clients on subnet2 use samba server subnet1 IP as the WINS server? I haven't tried running WINS on a dual homed system. I would guess it you cat the wins.dat file (or tdbdump wins.tbd) you will only see registrations for subnet1. Have you specified any ports in the smb.conf file? Samba 3 uses NT4 type smb-over-NBT (ports 137,138,139 and not 445) BUT I have found that explicitly specifying ports in smb.conf breaks more things than it fixes. On 01/03/13 04:01, Gala Dragos wrote: I'm banging my head against the wall here with a problem that I have. I have one Samba 3 server on a linux box with 2 ethernet interfaces, each given a different subnet. The same box does dhcp leases on both networks, with wins option pointing to this server. Firewall was configured to allow the best unobtrusive communication between the two subnets, I can ping between the subnets and receive response, I can also access some other services, like http, from one subnet to the other. I have setup on this server a common Public share, which works. Now I'm trying to get the Samba PC from subnet 1 to see the Samba PC from subnet 2 and viceversa, but to no avail. On subnet 1 I can see access the server via it's NetBIOS name, but on subnet 2 I can only see the server and access it via it's IP. No other Samba PC's can be seen across the subnets! All pc's have the same workgroup. What to enable in configuration in order to be able to do cross subnet browsing with samba ? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
Try this, samba4wins (http://www.enterprisesamba.org/samba4wins/)! A real wins server can interact with microsoft wins server push and pull partner! Let one samba be your pdc the other the bdc point both to the samba4wins host, point all your windows clients to the samba4wins host and you are up and running. Working here with 3 subnets and two windows 2008 wins servers as replication partners. On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:13:06 -0500, Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com wrote: Is samba bound to a subnet1 interface only or all interfaces. Can subnet2 clients connect to samba via either IP? Are subnet2 clients supposed to be using samba services via the subnet1 IP or the subnet2 IP on the server?The first would involve going thru the firewall, which seems unnecessary with a dual homed samba server.The 2nd, however, probably rules out using WINS for the subnet2 clients since you would NOT want traffic going thru the firewall. What IP are the clients on subnet2 using for a WINS server? Can you try having the clients on subnet2 use samba server subnet1 IP as the WINS server? I haven't tried running WINS on a dual homed system. I would guess it you cat the wins.dat file (or tdbdump wins.tbd) you will only see registrations for subnet1. Have you specified any ports in the smb.conf file? Samba 3 uses NT4 type smb-over-NBT (ports 137,138,139 and not 445) BUT I have found that explicitly specifying ports in smb.conf breaks more things than it fixes. On 01/03/13 04:01, Gala Dragos wrote: I'm banging my head against the wall here with a problem that I have. I have one Samba 3 server on a linux box with 2 ethernet interfaces, each given a different subnet. The same box does dhcp leases on both networks, with wins option pointing to this server. Firewall was configured to allow the best unobtrusive communication between the two subnets, I can ping between the subnets and receive response, I can also access some other services, like http, from one subnet to the other. I have setup on this server a common Public share, which works. Now I'm trying to get the Samba PC from subnet 1 to see the Samba PC from subnet 2 and viceversa, but to no avail. On subnet 1 I can see access the server via it's NetBIOS name, but on subnet 2 I can only see the server and access it via it's IP. No other Samba PC's can be seen across the subnets! All pc's have the same workgroup. What to enable in configuration in order to be able to do cross subnet browsing with samba ? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
Subnet 1 : 192.168.5.1/24, wins 192.168.5.1 subnet 2: 192.168.7.1/24, wins 192.168.7.1 all pc are allocated ip's from their respective subnet via dhcp. a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a share from e pc on subnet 2, not even by ip. Same happens from subnet 2 to subnet 1. The firewall is setup as to allow all traffic between the 2 subnets, effectively considering them as a single zone (I use shorewall as an UI to iptables) I have not specified any ports in smb.conf, but I have binded samba to the required ethernet interface. Here is the wins.dat. I can see references from both subnets. wins.dat follows VERSION 1 0 WORKGROUP#1e 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ARCHROUTEUSB#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#00 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ROUTERJUNKIE#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#20 1357541821 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#00 1357511721 192.168.5.118 64R ROUTERJUNKIE#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#03 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R FUJILAPPY#20 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#1b 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#00 1357541816 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#20 1357511723 192.168.5.118 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#20 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R WORKGROUP#1c 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 e4R ACERJUNKIE#00 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R FUJILAPPY#00 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ACERJUNKIE#20 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#00 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R ROUTERJUNKIE#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R end wins.dat -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
Anything for samba 3 ? Btw what exactly are the difference between samba 3 and samba 4 ? I was under the impression that samba 4 only implements the new Homegroup feature that post XP windows has. From: Daniel Müller muel...@tropenklinik.de To: gaiseric.van...@gmail.com Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS Try this, samba4wins (http://www.enterprisesamba.org/samba4wins/)! A real wins server can interact with microsoft wins server push and pull partner! Let one samba be your pdc the other the bdc point both to the samba4wins host, point all your windows clients to the samba4wins host and you are up and running. Working here with 3 subnets and two windows 2008 wins servers as replication partners. On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:13:06 -0500, Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com wrote: Is samba bound to a subnet1 interface only or all interfaces. Can subnet2 clients connect to samba via either IP? Are subnet2 clients supposed to be using samba services via the subnet1 IP or the subnet2 IP on the server? The first would involve going thru the firewall, which seems unnecessary with a dual homed samba server. The 2nd, however, probably rules out using WINS for the subnet2 clients since you would NOT want traffic going thru the firewall. What IP are the clients on subnet2 using for a WINS server? Can you try having the clients on subnet2 use samba server subnet1 IP as the WINS server? I haven't tried running WINS on a dual homed system. I would guess it you cat the wins.dat file (or tdbdump wins.tbd) you will only see registrations for subnet1. Have you specified any ports in the smb.conf file? Samba 3 uses NT4 type smb-over-NBT (ports 137,138,139 and not 445) BUT I have found that explicitly specifying ports in smb.conf breaks more things than it fixes. On 01/03/13 04:01, Gala Dragos wrote: I'm banging my head against the wall here with a problem that I have. I have one Samba 3 server on a linux box with 2 ethernet interfaces, each given a different subnet. The same box does dhcp leases on both networks, with wins option pointing to this server. Firewall was configured to allow the best unobtrusive communication between the two subnets, I can ping between the subnets and receive response, I can also access some other services, like http, from one subnet to the other. I have setup on this server a common Public share, which works. Now I'm trying to get the Samba PC from subnet 1 to see the Samba PC from subnet 2 and viceversa, but to no avail. On subnet 1 I can see access the server via it's NetBIOS name, but on subnet 2 I can only see the server and access it via it's IP. No other Samba PC's can be seen across the subnets! All pc's have the same workgroup. What to enable in configuration in order to be able to do cross subnet browsing with samba ? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
Presumably pc on subnet1 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.7.1 since it can access 192.168.5.1. Presumably pc on subnet2 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.5.1 since it can access 192.168.7.1. If you have a dual homed server + a router between subnets your routing could get a little tricky when access shares on the other subnet IP of the samba server. Or is the samba server also the router? But to clarify your issue is that a /*single-homed client */ PC on subnet1 (e.g. LIVINGROOM) can not access shares on single-homed client PC on subnet2 (e.g. ACERJUNKI)- even though they can ping each other? It seems that WINS is not the problem. On 01/03/13 15:41, Gala Dragos wrote: Subnet 1 : 192.168.5.1/24, wins 192.168.5.1 subnet 2: 192.168.7.1/24, wins 192.168.7.1 all pc are allocated ip's from their respective subnet via dhcp. a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a share from e pc on subnet 2, not even by ip. Same happens from subnet 2 to subnet 1. The firewall is setup as to allow all traffic between the 2 subnets, effectively considering them as a single zone (I use shorewall as an UI to iptables) I have not specified any ports in smb.conf, but I have binded samba to the required ethernet interface. Here is the wins.dat. I can see references from both subnets. wins.dat follows VERSION 1 0 WORKGROUP#1e 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ARCHROUTEUSB#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#00 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ROUTERJUNKIE#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#20 1357541821 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#00 1357511721 192.168.5.118 64R ROUTERJUNKIE#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#03 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R FUJILAPPY#20 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#1b 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#00 1357541816 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#20 1357511723 192.168.5.118 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#20 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R WORKGROUP#1c 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 e4R ACERJUNKIE#00 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R FUJILAPPY#00 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ACERJUNKIE#20 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#00 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R ROUTERJUNKIE#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R end wins.dat -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
The samba server also acts as the router. That is correct, a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a pc on subnet 2 through samba, but works fine using other protocols. Both subnet 1 and subnet 2 have pc that run Windows 7 x64, or Windows XP, or Linux (usually Fedora 17). The server itself runs on Archlinux. It seems that WINS is not the problem. Then what is ? From: Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com To: samba@lists.samba.org Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS Presumably pc on subnet1 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.7.1 since it can access 192.168.5.1. Presumably pc on subnet2 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.5.1 since it can access 192.168.7.1. If you have a dual homed server + a router between subnets your routing could get a little tricky when access shares on the other subnet IP of the samba server. Or is the samba server also the router? But to clarify your issue is that a /*single-homed client */ PC on subnet1 (e.g. LIVINGROOM) can not access shares on single-homed client PC on subnet2 (e.g. ACERJUNKI)- even though they can ping each other? It seems that WINS is not the problem. On 01/03/13 15:41, Gala Dragos wrote: Subnet 1 : 192.168.5.1/24, wins 192.168.5.1 subnet 2: 192.168.7.1/24, wins 192.168.7.1 all pc are allocated ip's from their respective subnet via dhcp. a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a share from e pc on subnet 2, not even by ip. Same happens from subnet 2 to subnet 1. The firewall is setup as to allow all traffic between the 2 subnets, effectively considering them as a single zone (I use shorewall as an UI to iptables) I have not specified any ports in smb.conf, but I have binded samba to the required ethernet interface. Here is the wins.dat. I can see references from both subnets. wins.dat follows VERSION 1 0 WORKGROUP#1e 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ARCHROUTEUSB#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#00 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ROUTERJUNKIE#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#20 1357541821 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#00 1357511721 192.168.5.118 64R ROUTERJUNKIE#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#03 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R FUJILAPPY#20 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#1b 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#00 1357541816 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#20 1357511723 192.168.5.118 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#20 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R WORKGROUP#1c 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 e4R ACERJUNKIE#00 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R FUJILAPPY#00 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ACERJUNKIE#20 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#00 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R ROUTERJUNKIE#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R end wins.dat -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
WINS is not the issue since you can't connect via IP either. Routing is not the issue since you can connect to other services. Are all clients showing 5.1 or 7.1 as default gw? It could be a firewall configuration issue on your server- although that does not seem likely. Did you have to specifically add rules to allow HTTPS? Can you temporarily disable the firewall on the server? Are their firewalls enabled on the PC's? Presuming clients don't have problems accessing shares from other clients on the same subnet? The default XP firewall behavior may be to block network shares.I think it is possible to configure the XP firewall to allow access from some IP's but not others- but that is something you would have had to explicitly set up. Fedora typically has a firewall enabled as well- on fedora you have the system-config-firewall command to provide a gui front end (I think this is iptables.) It may have specific ports and services enabled or disabled by default but I don't think it would have rules that filter by source ip enabled by default. Can you telnet somehost 139 ? On 01/03/13 16:16, Gala Dragos wrote: The samba server also acts as the router. That is correct, a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a pc on subnet 2 through samba, but works fine using other protocols. Both subnet 1 and subnet 2 have pc that run Windows 7 x64, or Windows XP, or Linux (usually Fedora 17). The server itself runs on Archlinux. It seems that WINS is not the problem. Then what is ? From: Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com To: samba@lists.samba.org Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS Presumably pc on subnet1 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.7.1 since it can access 192.168.5.1. Presumably pc on subnet2 does NOT need to access a share from 192.168.5.1 since it can access 192.168.7.1. If you have a dual homed server + a router between subnets your routing could get a little tricky when access shares on the other subnet IP of the samba server. Or is the samba server also the router? But to clarify your issue is that a /*single-homed client */ PC on subnet1 (e.g. LIVINGROOM) can not access shares on single-homed client PC on subnet2 (e.g. ACERJUNKI)- even though they can ping each other? It seems that WINS is not the problem. On 01/03/13 15:41, Gala Dragos wrote: Subnet 1 : 192.168.5.1/24, wins 192.168.5.1 subnet 2: 192.168.7.1/24, wins 192.168.7.1 all pc are allocated ip's from their respective subnet via dhcp. a pc on subnet 1 cannot access a share from e pc on subnet 2, not even by ip. Same happens from subnet 2 to subnet 1. The firewall is setup as to allow all traffic between the 2 subnets, effectively considering them as a single zone (I use shorewall as an UI to iptables) I have not specified any ports in smb.conf, but I have binded samba to the required ethernet interface. Here is the wins.dat. I can see references from both subnets. wins.dat follows VERSION 1 0 WORKGROUP#1e 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ARCHROUTEUSB#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#00 1357503758 0.0.0.0 e4R ROUTERJUNKIE#03 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#20 1357541821 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#00 1357511721 192.168.5.118 64R ROUTERJUNKIE#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#03 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R FUJILAPPY#20 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#00 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R WORKGROUP#1b 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R LIVINGROOM#00 1357541816 192.168.5.91 64R LINUXJUNKIE#20 1357511723 192.168.5.118 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#20 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R WORKGROUP#1c 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 e4R ACERJUNKIE#00 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R FUJILAPPY#00 1357497461 192.168.7.16 64R ACERJUNKIE#20 1357381531 192.168.7.15 64R ARCHROUTEUSB RO#00 1357258441 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R ARCHROUTEUSB#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 66R ROUTERJUNKIE#20 1357503758 192.168.5.1 192.168.7.1 64R end wins.dat -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba 3 master browser on two networks plus WINS
This seems more a routing issue to me than samba. Packets cannot move between different networks without a route. You need to define a static route between your networks and then it will work. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
