RE: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
What about also enabling roaming profiles, but doing folder redirection? I use it and so it take much less time since each machine is configured to mount their my documents, desktop, etc. which makes their profile large rather than include them in the profile. It's included in the official samba howto, the unofficial samba howtos, etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of simo Sent: Mon 8/7/2006 5:46 PM To: Logan Shaw Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 17:23 -0500, Logan Shaw wrote: Hey everyone. We have two offices accessing the same Samba server, which is a PDC and file server. The server is located in one of the offices, but the other office is only connected by a relatively slow link (1.5 megabit/s). I'm looking for a way to turn off roaming profiles only for those users which are at the remote site. (It's a tad inconvenient when it takes an hour or two to login due to a 1 GB roaming profile!) I could turn roaming profiles off for everyone, but we do have some users here at the same site as the server who don't have their own computers and could take advantage of roaming profiles. Obviously, I can do this by running the Group Policy editor on every machine at the remote site, but I'd really like something where this can be controlled by the server. I know I can leave logon path and logon home undefined and that will turn off roaming profiles for everyone, but I only want to turn it off for users on a certain network. So, is there any way to do that? Set the logon home and logon path explicitly in the passdb backend for the users who need it and leave the general ones blank. You must use either the tdbsam or ldapsam backlends to do that. Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://samba.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, John Mason wrote: What about also enabling roaming profiles, but doing folder redirection? I use it and so it take much less time since each machine is configured to mount their my documents, desktop, etc. which makes their profile large rather than include them in the profile. I don't think that would work so well for our environment. The issue isn't the space used in the profile. It's the speed at which it can be copied over and back. Turning folders like the desktop into mounts from the server would prevent slow logons, but in exchange what we'd get is files on the desktop taking minutes to open after someone had logged in. The pipe between the offices is about 1.5 megabit/s bandwidth with a latency of about 70 ms, and this makes access to files over SMB (or CIFS) really slow. I'd *love* to improve responsiveness of the server, but my guess is that the protocol just doesn't deal with latency very well (most file sharing protocols don't), so no amount of tuning is going to make a huge difference. Plus, of course, if you open a 10 megabyte file over a 1.5 megabit/s link, the theoretical best time you're ever going to see is about 53 seconds. And people do put 10 megabyte files on their desktops. - Logan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, simo wrote: On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 17:23 -0500, Logan Shaw wrote: I'm looking for a way to turn off roaming profiles only for those users which are at the remote site. Set the logon home and logon path explicitly in the passdb backend for the users who need it and leave the general ones blank. You must use either the tdbsam or ldapsam backlends to do that. That's an idea, but I'd really rather have it keyed off what network they're logging in from. It's not uncommon for users from one office to travel to the other. Then, they get there and have only (say) 2 days to get whatever done while they're traveling, and they spend the first 2 hours of their limited time waiting for their machine to finish logging them. It's a bit of a nuisance. :-) In particular, there could even be cases where someone uses the same user account and same machine at the local office and at the one 1000 miles away. This can happen when a user takes their laptop with them. And yeah, I can educate my users about this, but that doesn't completely stop it from happening, because it's not the type of thing people understand well or realize they need to remember when they're traveling. All in all, I guess this is more of a weakness of the design of Windows networking than anything else. Still, if there is a Samba solution to the problem, I'd welcome it... - Logan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
Good point. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Logan Shaw Sent: Tue 8/8/2006 9:40 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, John Mason wrote: What about also enabling roaming profiles, but doing folder redirection? I use it and so it take much less time since each machine is configured to mount their my documents, desktop, etc. which makes their profile large rather than include them in the profile. I don't think that would work so well for our environment. The issue isn't the space used in the profile. It's the speed at which it can be copied over and back. Turning folders like the desktop into mounts from the server would prevent slow logons, but in exchange what we'd get is files on the desktop taking minutes to open after someone had logged in. The pipe between the offices is about 1.5 megabit/s bandwidth with a latency of about 70 ms, and this makes access to files over SMB (or CIFS) really slow. I'd *love* to improve responsiveness of the server, but my guess is that the protocol just doesn't deal with latency very well (most file sharing protocols don't), so no amount of tuning is going to make a huge difference. Plus, of course, if you open a 10 megabyte file over a 1.5 megabit/s link, the theoretical best time you're ever going to see is about 53 seconds. And people do put 10 megabyte files on their desktops. - Logan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
Hey everyone. We have two offices accessing the same Samba server, which is a PDC and file server. The server is located in one of the offices, but the other office is only connected by a relatively slow link (1.5 megabit/s). I'm looking for a way to turn off roaming profiles only for those users which are at the remote site. (It's a tad inconvenient when it takes an hour or two to login due to a 1 GB roaming profile!) I could turn roaming profiles off for everyone, but we do have some users here at the same site as the server who don't have their own computers and could take advantage of roaming profiles. Obviously, I can do this by running the Group Policy editor on every machine at the remote site, but I'd really like something where this can be controlled by the server. I know I can leave logon path and logon home undefined and that will turn off roaming profiles for everyone, but I only want to turn it off for users on a certain network. So, is there any way to do that? - Logan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] disabling roaming profiles for some networks only
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 17:23 -0500, Logan Shaw wrote: Hey everyone. We have two offices accessing the same Samba server, which is a PDC and file server. The server is located in one of the offices, but the other office is only connected by a relatively slow link (1.5 megabit/s). I'm looking for a way to turn off roaming profiles only for those users which are at the remote site. (It's a tad inconvenient when it takes an hour or two to login due to a 1 GB roaming profile!) I could turn roaming profiles off for everyone, but we do have some users here at the same site as the server who don't have their own computers and could take advantage of roaming profiles. Obviously, I can do this by running the Group Policy editor on every machine at the remote site, but I'd really like something where this can be controlled by the server. I know I can leave logon path and logon home undefined and that will turn off roaming profiles for everyone, but I only want to turn it off for users on a certain network. So, is there any way to do that? Set the logon home and logon path explicitly in the passdb backend for the users who need it and leave the general ones blank. You must use either the tdbsam or ldapsam backlends to do that. Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://samba.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
