Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[ray klassen]

Memory usage is the reason (imho) that Novell was king in the dos era. The 
lanman client was just too huge even running on NETBEUI. Add to that a TCP/IP 
stack and in DOS terms you have a 200 to 300 K behemoth. 

I just googled "linux clipper compiler". Have you tried 'Clip?' Looks like it 
might fill the bill and then you wouldn't be stuck with the limitations of DOS




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From: czezz 
To: samba@lists.samba.org; Neal Murphy ; 
sa...@jubileegroup.co.uk; Marc Muehlfeld 
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Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 0:50
Subject: Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

Hi,
thank you all for answers.
 
@Ged and Neal,
yes - I considered using DOSBox and/or DOSEMU. This is solution that I will 
keep away from.
The true is that with DOSBox I dont even need to care about network 
configuration and there is enough memory to run required application.
The thing is that my Clipper/dBase application is located on Linux server and 
shared with SAMBA.
8 nodes (PCs/workstations) are connected to that share. If I use DOSbox, then 
DOSbox node will always overwrite its changes over dBase/database. Which will 
erase changes done by other nodes. 
 
VirtualBox: as I have written - I have 8 nodes (PCs/workstations). Each of them 
needs to communicate to Linux/Samba server where application is shared. DOS 
must have samba client. VB wont help that way.
However I do my tests with FreeDOS inside of VirtualBox.
 
@Marc - yes, Im playing around that.
So far, on the FreeDOS I have managed to get 485KB of free conventional memory. 
Application I need to run requires little bit above 500KB.
MS Client take most of it... nightmare :(
 
One last chance might be NFS client for DOS...
But I was just hoping that there is some old/discontinued Samba project for DOS.
 
BR,
czezz
Dnia 8 maja 2013 0:18 Neal Murphy <neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu> napisał(a):
On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 05:57:13 PM G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Tue, 7 May 2013 czezz wrote:
> > I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive. However MS
> > Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all applications I
> > need. Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA
> > implementation for DOS ?
> 
> Have you considered using DOSBox on a Linux machine? Then you can do
> whatever you want with drives, mapping, NAS, or whatever. I use it a
> lot for an old application that I wrote over twenty years ago, it does
> everything that I need.
> 
> Alternatively you could try VirtualBox, which will let you do similar
> things with drives but I don't know how flexible it is.
To extend this concept a little, mayhap czezz could run each DOS app in a 
separate VM or separate DOSBox. Then he wouldn't need to worry about RAM.
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[Volker Lendecke]

On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:50:30AM +0200, czezz wrote:
> Hi,
> thank you all for answers.
>  
> @Ged and Neal,
> yes - I considered using DOSBox and/or DOSEMU. This is solution that I will 
> keep away from.
> The true is that with DOSBox I dont even need to care about network 
> configuration and there is enough memory to run required application.
> The thing is that my Clipper/dBase application is located on Linux server and 
> shared with SAMBA.
> 8 nodes (PCs/workstations) are connected to that share. If I use DOSbox, then 
> DOSbox node will always overwrite its changes over dBase/database. Which will 
> erase changes done by other nodes. 
>  
> VirtualBox: as I have written - I have 8 nodes (PCs/workstations). Each of 
> them needs to communicate to Linux/Samba server where application is shared. 
> DOS must have samba client. VB wont help that way.
> However I do my tests with FreeDOS inside of VirtualBox.
>  
> @Marc - yes, Im playing around that.
> So far, on the FreeDOS I have managed to get 485KB of free conventional 
> memory. Application I need to run requires little bit above 500KB.
> MS Client take most of it... nightmare :(
>  
> One last chance might be NFS client for DOS...
> But I was just hoping that there is some old/discontinued Samba project for 
> DOS.

Is mars_nwe still alive? The Novell client uses less memory
than the MSClient thingy.

Volker

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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[czezz]

Hi,
thank you all for answers.
 
@Ged and Neal,
yes - I considered using DOSBox and/or DOSEMU. This is solution that I will 
keep away from.
The true is that with DOSBox I dont even need to care about network 
configuration and there is enough memory to run required application.
The thing is that my Clipper/dBase application is located on Linux server and 
shared with SAMBA.
8 nodes (PCs/workstations) are connected to that share. If I use DOSbox, then 
DOSbox node will always overwrite its changes over dBase/database. Which will 
erase changes done by other nodes. 
 
VirtualBox: as I have written - I have 8 nodes (PCs/workstations). Each of them 
needs to communicate to Linux/Samba server where application is shared. DOS 
must have samba client. VB wont help that way.
However I do my tests with FreeDOS inside of VirtualBox.
 
@Marc - yes, Im playing around that.
So far, on the FreeDOS I have managed to get 485KB of free conventional memory. 
Application I need to run requires little bit above 500KB.
MS Client take most of it... nightmare :(
 
One last chance might be NFS client for DOS...
But I was just hoping that there is some old/discontinued Samba project for DOS.
 
BR,
czezz
Dnia 8 maja 2013 0:18 Neal Murphy  napisał(a):
On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 05:57:13 PM G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Tue, 7 May 2013 czezz wrote:
> > I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive. However MS
> > Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all applications I
> > need. Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA
> > implementation for DOS ?
> 
> Have you considered using DOSBox on a Linux machine? Then you can do
> whatever you want with drives, mapping, NAS, or whatever. I use it a
> lot for an old application that I wrote over twenty years ago, it does
> everything that I need.
> 
> Alternatively you could try VirtualBox, which will let you do similar
> things with drives but I don't know how flexible it is.
To extend this concept a little, mayhap czezz could run each DOS app in a 
separate VM or separate DOSBox. Then he wouldn't need to worry about RAM.
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[Neal Murphy]

On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 05:57:13 PM G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Tue, 7 May 2013 czezz wrote:
> > I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive.  However MS
> > Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all applications I
> > need.  Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA
> > implementation for DOS ?
> 
> Have you considered using DOSBox on a Linux machine?  Then you can do
> whatever you want with drives, mapping, NAS, or whatever.  I use it a
> lot for an old application that I wrote over twenty years ago, it does
> everything that I need.
> 
> Alternatively you could try VirtualBox, which will let you do similar
> things with drives but I don't know how flexible it is.

To extend this concept a little, mayhap czezz could run each DOS app in a 
separate VM or separate DOSBox. Then he wouldn't need to worry about RAM.
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Tue, 7 May 2013 czezz wrote:


I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive.  However MS
Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all applications I
need.  Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA
implementation for DOS ?


Have you considered using DOSBox on a Linux machine?  Then you can do
whatever you want with drives, mapping, NAS, or whatever.  I use it a
lot for an old application that I wrote over twenty years ago, it does
everything that I need.

Alternatively you could try VirtualBox, which will let you do similar
things with drives but I don't know how flexible it is.

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Ged.
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[czezz]

Hello Marc,
thank you for reply.
I didnt mention that I googled a lot before this post but  - yes - I know that 
site. The only solution that worked for me is MS Client, but this one takes too 
much memory.
 @LukasI dont mind for the recent version. My Samba server is very old  - 
version is samba-2.2.12.I need anything that I can map network share and still 
have some reasonable amount of conventional mem :( BR,czezz  It doesn't sound 
like one has been developed that's compatible withrecent (i.e. within the last 
decade) versions of the protocol:
Dnia 7 maja 2013 17:49 Marc Muehlfeld  
napisał(a):
Hello czezz,
Am 07.05.2013 15:33, schrieb czezz:
> Well, simply Im looking for SAMBA Client for DOS
> (client that allows me to map share as a drive.)
I haven't used DOS in a network environment for a long time, so I can't
recommend anything. But Google gave me this page:
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html
Maybe you find there something usefull.
Regards
Marc
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[Marc Muehlfeld]

Hello czezz,

Am 07.05.2013 15:33, schrieb czezz:

Well, simply Im looking for SAMBA Client for DOS

> (client that allows me to map share as a drive.)

I haven't used DOS in a network environment for a long time, so I can't 
recommend anything. But Google gave me this page: 
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html

Maybe you find there something usefull.

Regards
Marc
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[czezz]

Hello Lukas,
thank you for reply.
 
Well, simply Im looking for SAMBA Client for DOS (client that allows me to map 
share as a drive.)
 
BR,
czezz
Dnia 7 maja 2013 14:33 Lukas Gradl  napisał(a):
Zitat von czezz :
> Hello Samba users,
> I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive.
> However MS Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all 
> applications I need.
> Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA implementation for DOS ?
What do you mean by that? You're looking for a SMB-Client 
implementation? Samba is a SMB/CIFS Server...
regards
Lukas
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Re: [Samba] SAMBA implementation for DOS ?

[Lukas Gradl]

Zitat von czezz :


Hello Samba users,
I use FreeDOS with MS Client to map a network drive.
However MS Client is a memory hog and prevents me to run all  
applications I need.

Therefore I would like to ask here is there SAMBA implementation for DOS ?


What do you mean by that? You're looking for a SMB-Client  
implementation? Samba is a SMB/CIFS Server...


regards
Lukas
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