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Today's Topics:
1. An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras, astakams,
etc. (default siva)
2. Some Sanskrit Resources (Pankaj Gupta)
3. Re: An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc. (swamikkannu ravichandran)
4. Re: Plants in Megaduta (paul)
5. Re: Plants in Megaduta (Vimala Sarma)
6. Re: Plants in Megaduta (Upendra Watwe)
7. Re: An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc. (Sushil Jalan)
8. Re: Some Sanskrit Resources (sriram)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:42:53 -0500
From: default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of
stotras, astakams, etc.
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Namaskar,
Ever thankful am I to all of those who helped me understand the grammar of
the word shivaushadhi. I must once again admit that I am but a humble child
in the presence of the great intelligence of this community.
I am inquirying to better understand the classification of Stotras. It would
be most auspicious if anyone could assist me clarifying the differences &
definitions of the devotional hymns such as those of Adi Sankaracarya.
Am I correct to believe that the Kaalabhaiaravashtakam is called an Ashtakam
because Asta means 8 & it has 8 verses (plus the phalashruti)?
Does the term stotra define a hymn with specific number of verses, making it
different from an 8 versed Ashtakam Or does an Astakam fall under the
category of a Stotram?
I hope I am making sense, if not please pardon my ignorance.
If a Stotra is used as a sort of ?Umbrella Term? what are the requirements
of a hymn to become a stotra ? Are there ways to classify the different
types of hymns considered to be stotras? For instance in the same way that
there are so very many different types of Meters classified by chandas
vedanga.
If I understand correctly the Vedas & even smriti texts follow the rules of
chandas but a stotra doesn't? I was hoping to discover if there was a way to
define the meters of a stotra & if there was an advanced classification
system that perhaps Adi Shankaracharya used to write his amazing hymns.
I trust that my inquiry is not to difficult to understand as I am having a
hard time comprehending the standards used for classification of devotional
hymns & the sacred texts.
I hope to utilize this information by amending it to a portion of my
website focused on helping individuals like myself, who have no guru or
mandir outside of the internet, understand the branches of vedanga via
resources, references & examples that I was not able to find elsewhere.
I think I understand the difference between Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans,
(kirtans & Zikrs which aren't hindu, or are they?) & Stotra's. I would love
to make a comprehensive layout / list that showed the differences &
parallels between the many beautiful ways to express divinity through sound
& rhythm.
Thank you so much for your patience & for your time. Blessings to the divine
beings which make up this great community,
-Shivaushadhi-
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:31:06 -0500
From: "Pankaj Gupta" <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Some Sanskrit Resources
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Hi
I just wanted to share this list of resources that I have found useful in
starting to learn Sanskrit.
First of all - dictionary. I use:
(JPG scans)
http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/index.php?sfx=jpg
(PDF Scans)
http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/index.php?sfx=pdf
This is the Monier Williams dictionary - the best, for Sanskrit. It is more
comprehensive and well organized than probably all other sanskrit
dictionaries. There are other great ones like Apte's and MacDonells.
MacDonnell's is a practical dictionary, smaller and probably easier to
access. However, to really appreciate Monier Williams, you need to read
Wikner's tutorial on Sanskrit. This tutorial talks about using the MW
dictionary, and you only begin to appreciate the kind of work that has gone
into creating MW:
http://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tutorial_wikner/wikner.pdf
(Also, the above mentioned text really tells you how to enter the world of
Sanskrit. It mentions a book that provides word to word grammatical analysis
of Bhagawad Gita - I can see many benefits of acquiring this book).
Second - Word formats/Tables
The easiest book I have found is this book called Shabda Manjari. You really
should read this book - it could not be made simpler.
http://www.archive.org/details/SabdaManjari
I also just started learning from this book which has some easy to reference
tables. It might be very helpful.
http://www.amazon.com/Sanskrit-Manual-Quick-Reference-Phonology-Classical/dp
/8120811887/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253200965&sr=8-1
Easy Grammar:
And also Sanskrit Grammar for beginners by MacDonell - this is an abridged
version of Muller's grammar book which is considered a standard.
http://www.archive.org/details/asanskritgramma01mlgoog
Easiest First Introduction:
I don't know what your level of Sanskrit is, but if you are relatively new,
you will love this book. This book is probably the most friendliest
introduction to Sanskrit that I have seen.
http://www.amazon.com/Sanskrit-Appreciation-Apprehension-Bharat-Shah/dp/0962
36746X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253201018&sr=1-1
Texts:
This website has all our puranas, and Maha Bharat and so on, if you want to
read a particular scripture.
http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/
Again, youtube has a lot of Sanskrit renderings, but mostly all are Stotras
and Stutis.
I have started to read a section of Maha Bharat, and slowly making my way
through Sanskrit Grammar, and dictionary. It's my understanding that the
main difficulty is after breaking a sentence into words, seeing the purpose
and meaning of each word. For that, the first place is a dictionary to go to
the meaning of a word, and then some tables to understand the functionality
(in, from, for, to etc. in case of nouns/adjectives/pronouns and tense/mood
in case of verbs etc.) of the words. It seems to be a fairly simle thing to
do once you get the hang of it.
Regards,
Pankaj
PS: I would love to have the compliment of Shabda Manjari, called Dhatu
Manjari. If someone could point me to it, I would be greatful. And if
someone could point me to an alternative text with tables, that would be
awesome.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:40:48 +0530
From: swamikkannu ravichandran <raviv...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of
stotras, astakams, etc.
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Namaskar,
In this thread we interact about Sanskrit. I read some books
on Sanskrit with English and Tamil meanings at the Library at Veeranjaneya
Temple at Mahalaxmi layout at Bangalore. These can be understood with real
meaning by person who knows Sanskrit well.
Is there any books that gives the same messages such as slogan, what are to
be followed in day to day life by mankind. that a common man ( I mean a
little literate who can read it in his mother tongue.)
So as it will reach many than as it does now. Is there any separate thread
for this purpose
some may reply
ravichandran.s
raviv...@gmail.com
____________________
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Namaskar,
>
> Ever thankful am I to all of those who helped me understand the grammar of
> the word shivaushadhi. I must once again admit that I am but a humble child
> in the presence of the great intelligence of this community.
>
> I am inquirying to better understand the classification of Stotras. It
> would be most auspicious if anyone could assist me clarifying the
> differences & definitions of the devotional hymns such as those of Adi
> Sankaracarya.
>
> Am I correct to believe that the Kaalabhaiaravashtakam is called an
> Ashtakam because Asta means 8 & it has 8 verses (plus the phalashruti)?
>
> Does the term stotra define a hymn with specific number of verses, making
> it different from an 8 versed Ashtakam Or does an Astakam fall under the
> category of a Stotram?
>
> I hope I am making sense, if not please pardon my ignorance.
>
> If a Stotra is used as a sort of ?Umbrella Term? what are the requirements
> of a hymn to become a stotra ? Are there ways to classify the different
> types of hymns considered to be stotras? For instance in the same way that
> there are so very many different types of Meters classified by chandas
> vedanga.
>
> If I understand correctly the Vedas & even smriti texts follow the rules of
> chandas but a stotra doesn't? I was hoping to discover if there was a way to
> define the meters of a stotra & if there was an advanced classification
> system that perhaps Adi Shankaracharya used to write his amazing hymns.
>
>
> I trust that my inquiry is not to difficult to understand as I am having
> a hard time comprehending the standards used for classification of
> devotional hymns & the sacred texts.
>
>
> I hope to utilize this information by amending it to a portion of my
> website focused on helping individuals like myself, who have no guru or
> mandir outside of the internet, understand the branches of vedanga via
> resources, references & examples that I was not able to find elsewhere.
>
>
> I think I understand the difference between Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans,
> (kirtans & Zikrs which aren't hindu, or are they?) & Stotra's. I would love
> to make a comprehensive layout / list that showed the differences &
> parallels between the many beautiful ways to express divinity through sound
> & rhythm.
>
>
> Thank you so much for your patience & for your time. Blessings to the
> divine beings which make up this great community,
>
> -Shivaushadhi-
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
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>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:18:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: paul <yarz...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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To view the site, you have to change the character encoding of your browser to
UTF-16 (in firefox in the View menu). I remember years ago when studying this
poem asking for just such a resource as this but none were forthcoming. I'm
glad to have it now though! The recitation is great too.
________________________________
From: Hari Sundar <hsun...@gmail.com>
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:23:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
I think the website is using some proprietary fonts ... It would be better if
Tamomi used unicode fonts.
~Hari
2009/9/17 venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>>When I tried to go to the site
>>http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/ suggested by yoy, I get a
>>series of smal squares. From your description the site should be remarkable.
>>Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you V.Narayanaswamy
>
>________________________________
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
>Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
>
>
>
>>
>Please
>check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
>Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta
>by K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or
>tree in watercolour, chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and
>Japanese. It uses multimedia and you would need to click on each plant
>on the margin at the left to get each verse.
>http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
>It
>is delightful - she is very talented.
>Vimala
>
>>
>From:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu >[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
>Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
>Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
>To: Sanskrit Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>
>[Moderator's note]
>
>>This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this thread.
>
>>I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
>
>>Thanks,
>
>>Naresh
>
>
>>
>On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>jai gurudev
>
>>shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
>
>>we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
>>
>
>>this is scientifically proven fact.
>i do not feel offended by u.
>
>>but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
>
>>u know the answer.
>
>>i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
>
>
>
>>om shakti
>>
>>
>
>
>>On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com>
>wrote:
>>> Dear Gopal - Ji
>>> Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in a
>>> good-natured spirit.
>>> I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
>group,
>>> instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
>>> "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit
>different
>>> religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below!
>Science is all
>>> things to all people!
>>> Regards
>>> I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
>>> Vimala
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu >[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
>On
>>> Behalf Of gopal narayan
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
>>> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>>>
>>> jai gurudev
>>>
>>> mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
>>> of shakti.
>>>
>>> shakti is real,trth and provable god.
>>>
>>> the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
>>>
>>> she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
>>>
>>> so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
>>> energy,
>>> rudra-destructive energy.
>>>
>>> sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
>>>
>>> this is scientifically proven fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> om shakti
>>>
>>> gopal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hari Om dear members.
>>> >
>>> > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
>knowledgeable
>>> > members can kindly enlighten me:
>>> >
>>> > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see
>in different places
>>> > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
>they
>>> > listed?
>>> >
>>> > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several
>confusing pieces of
>>> > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
>commentary
>>> > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent books
>>> > with the same name?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Gurudeva Dasi.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
>visit
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>>> >
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>>ALL THAT EXISTS
>>IS ONLY SUPREME NATURE SUPREME ENERGY DIVINE MOTHER ADI SHAKTI MAHAKAALI
>>MAHALAXMI MAHASARASWATI LALITA TRIPURA SUNDARI KULKUNDALINI PARMESHWARI
>>SHE IS THE ONLY BEING IN EXISTANCE AND WE ARE ALL PART OF HER
>>
>>
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:13:59 +1000
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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I don?t seem to have that problem. I wonder if it is your browser? The
slokas are written in devanagari script. Can you at least hear the meter,
see the watercolours, and see the English translation?
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of venkatesan narayanaswamy
Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 11:38 PM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
When I tried to go to the site
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/ suggested by yoy, I get a
series of smal squares. From your description the site should be remarkable.
Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you V.Narayanaswamy
_____
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
Please check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta by
K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or tree in watercolour,
chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and Japanese. It
uses multimedia and you would need to click on each plant on the margin at
the left to get each verse.
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
It is delightful - she is very talented.
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
[Moderator's note]
This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this thread.
I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
Thanks,
Naresh
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
jai gurudev
shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
this is scientifically proven fact.
i do not feel offended by u.
but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
u know the answer.
i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
om shakti
On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Dear Gopal - Ji
> Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in a
> good-natured spirit.
> I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
group,
> instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
> "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit different
> religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below! Science is
all
> things to all people!
> Regards
> I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
> Vimala
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On
> Behalf Of gopal narayan
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>
> jai gurudev
>
> mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
> of shakti.
>
> shakti is real,trth and provable god.
>
> the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
>
> she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
>
> so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
> energy,
> rudra-destructive energy.
>
> sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
>
> this is scientifically proven fact.
>
>
>
>
> om shakti
>
> gopal
>
>
>
> On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hari Om dear members.
> >
> > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
knowledgeable
> > members can kindly enlighten me:
> >
> > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see in different places
> > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
they
> > listed?
> >
> > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several confusing pieces of
> > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
commentary
> > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent
books
> > with the same name?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Gurudeva Dasi.
> > _______________________________________________
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
visit
> > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
> > and follow instructions.
> >
> >
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+++++++++++
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ALL THAT EXISTS
IS ONLY SUPREME NATURE SUPREME ENERGY DIVINE MOTHER ADI SHAKTI MAHAKAALI
MAHALAXMI MAHASARASWATI LALITA TRIPURA SUNDARI KULKUNDALINI PARMESHWARI
SHE IS THE ONLY BEING IN EXISTANCE AND WE ARE ALL PART OF HER
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:10:39 -0400
From: Upendra Watwe <upendra.wa...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
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Surprising- because I could read all the tree names in devnanagri also :) as
well as the japanese version(though I didnt understand a word of it :)).
Upendra
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Hari Sundar <hsun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the website is using some proprietary fonts ... It would be better
> if Tamomi used unicode fonts.
>
> ~Hari
>
> 2009/9/17 venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
>
> When I tried to go to the site
>> http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/ suggested by yoy, I
>> get a series of smal squares. From your description the site should be
>> remarkable. Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you V.Narayanaswamy
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: vsa...@bigpond.com
>> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
>> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
>>
>>
>> Please check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
>> Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta by
>> K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or tree in watercolour,
>> chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and Japanese. It
>> uses multimedia and you would need to click on each plant on the margin at
>> the left to get each verse.
>>
>> http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
>>
>> It is delightful - she is very talented.
>>
>> Vimala
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
>> *On Behalf Of *Naresh Cuntoor
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
>> *To:* Sanskrit Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>>
>>
>>
>> [Moderator's note]
>>
>> This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this
>> thread.
>>
>> I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Naresh
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <
>> gopalnarayan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> jai gurudev
>>
>> shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
>>
>> we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
>>
>>
>> this is scientifically proven fact.
>>
>> i do not feel offended by u.
>>
>> but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
>>
>> u know the answer.
>>
>> i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
>>
>>
>>
>> om shakti
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Gopal - Ji
>> > Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in
>> a
>> > good-natured spirit.
>> > I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
>> group,
>> > instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
>> > "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit different
>> > religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below! Science is
>> all
>> > things to all people!
>> > Regards
>> > I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
>> > Vimala
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of gopal narayan
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
>> > To: Sanskrit Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>> >
>> > jai gurudev
>> >
>> > mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
>> > of shakti.
>> >
>> > shakti is real,trth and provable god.
>> >
>> > the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
>> >
>> > she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
>> >
>> > so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
>> > energy,
>> > rudra-destructive energy.
>> >
>> > sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
>> >
>> > this is scientifically proven fact.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > om shakti
>> >
>> > gopal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hari Om dear members.
>> > >
>> > > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
>> knowledgeable
>> > > members can kindly enlighten me:
>> > >
>> > > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see in different
>> places
>> > > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
>> they
>> > > listed?
>> > >
>> > > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several confusing pieces of
>> > > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
>> commentary
>> > > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent
>> books
>> > > with the same name?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> > >
>> > > Gurudeva Dasi.
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:11:25 +0530
From: Sushil Jalan <sushilja...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of
stotras, astakams, etc.
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Namaskar
Your quest shows you are a very modest seeker who has learned more
than he accepts or knows that he has.
I may not be the right person to reply this but I shall still try it
as a child's adventure.
Shloka is couplet comprising of two lines. Sometimes for ease of
printing these 2 lines are split into four. Every shloka is written in
a Chhanda - that is the rythme in which it is to be recited. For
example Bhagwad Gita is written mostly in ANUSHTUP chhanda. A few
verses are also in TRISHTUP chhanda. Each half of a line in a shloka
is called CHARAN. Now each charan has fixed number of whole Akshara
(alphabet). For example anushtup chhanda is constructed of 8 whole
aksharas. By whole akshara we mean a conjunct of a consonant with a
vowel.
By Stotra we May mean a compilation. It could contain any number of
sholkas. Astaka is having 8 shlokas. Suktam would have 16 shlokas.
A stuti is different. It means anything sung to praise or gratify the
Lord.
With very kind regards.
Sushil K Jalan
Vodafone 9811599944
On Sep 17, 2009, at 20:12, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaskar,
> Ever thankful am I to all of those who helped me understand the
> grammar of the word shivaushadhi. I must once again admit that I am
> but a humble child in the presence of the great intelligence of this
> community.
> I am inquirying to better understand the classification of Stotras.
> It would be most auspicious if anyone could assist me clarifying the
> differences & definitions of the devotional hymns such as those of
> Adi Sankaracarya.
> Am I correct to believe that the Kaalabhaiaravashtakam is called an
> Ashtakam because Asta means 8 & it has 8 verses (plus the
> phalashruti)?
> Does the term stotra define a hymn with specific number of verses,
> making it different from an 8 versed Ashtakam Or does an Astakam
> fall under the category of a Stotram?
> I hope I am making sense, if not please pardon my ignorance.
> If a Stotra is used as a sort of ?Umbrella Term? what are the
> requirements of a hymn to become a stotra ? Are there ways to classi
> fy the different types of hymns considered to be stotras? For instan
> ce in the same way that there are so very many different types of Me
> ters classified by chandas vedanga.
> If I understand correctly the Vedas & even smriti texts follow the
> rules of chandas but a stotra doesn't? I was hoping to discover if
> there was a way to define the meters of a stotra & if there was an
> advanced classification system that perhaps Adi Shankaracharya used
> to write his amazing hymns.
>
> I trust that my inquiry is not to difficult to understand as I am
> having a hard time comprehending the standards used for
> classification of devotional hymns & the sacred texts.
>
> I hope to utilize this information by amending it to a portion of my
> website focused on helping individuals like myself, who have no guru
> or mandir outside of the internet, understand the branches of
> vedanga via resources, references & examples that I was not able to
> find elsewhere.
>
> I think I understand the difference between Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans,
> (kirtans & Zikrs which aren't hindu, or are they?) & Stotra's. I
> would love to make a comprehensive layout / list that showed the
> differences & parallels between the many beautiful ways to express
> divinity through sound & rhythm.
>
> Thank you so much for your patience & for your time. Blessings to
> the divine beings which make up this great community,
> -Shivaushadhi-
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:05:33 +0530
From: sriram <srira...@cbayindia.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Some Sanskrit Resources
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Hi,
It is really useful. Can any one knows about all list of rishis,
gothras, and its pravaranmitha.
Thanks
Sriram G
Pankaj Gupta wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> I just wanted to share this list of resources that I have found useful in
> starting to learn Sanskrit.
>
>
>
> First of all - dictionary. I use:
>
> (JPG scans)
> http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/index.php?sfx=jpg
>
> (PDF Scans)
> http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/index.php?sfx=pdf
>
> This is the Monier Williams dictionary - the best, for Sanskrit. It is more
> comprehensive and well organized than probably all other sanskrit
> dictionaries. There are other great ones like Apte's and MacDonells.
> MacDonnell's is a practical dictionary, smaller and probably easier to
> access. However, to really appreciate Monier Williams, you need to read
> Wikner's tutorial on Sanskrit. This tutorial talks about using the MW
> dictionary, and you only begin to appreciate the kind of work that has gone
> into creating MW:
> http://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tutorial_wikner/wikner.pdf
>
> (Also, the above mentioned text really tells you how to enter the world of
> Sanskrit. It mentions a book that provides word to word grammatical analysis
> of Bhagawad Gita - I can see many benefits of acquiring this book).
>
>
>
> Second - Word formats/Tables
>
> The easiest book I have found is this book called Shabda Manjari. You really
> should read this book - it could not be made simpler.
> http://www.archive.org/details/SabdaManjari
>
> I also just started learning from this book which has some easy to reference
> tables. It might be very helpful.
> http://www.amazon.com/Sanskrit-Manual-Quick-Reference-Phonology-Classical/dp
> /8120811887/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253200965&sr=8-1
>
>
>
> Easy Grammar:
>
> And also Sanskrit Grammar for beginners by MacDonell - this is an abridged
> version of Muller's grammar book which is considered a standard.
> http://www.archive.org/details/asanskritgramma01mlgoog
>
>
> Easiest First Introduction:
>
> I don't know what your level of Sanskrit is, but if you are relatively new,
> you will love this book. This book is probably the most friendliest
> introduction to Sanskrit that I have seen.
> http://www.amazon.com/Sanskrit-Appreciation-Apprehension-Bharat-Shah/dp/0962
> 36746X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253201018&sr=1-1
>
>
>
> Texts:
> This website has all our puranas, and Maha Bharat and so on, if you want to
> read a particular scripture.
> http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/
>
>
> Again, youtube has a lot of Sanskrit renderings, but mostly all are Stotras
> and Stutis.
>
>
> I have started to read a section of Maha Bharat, and slowly making my way
> through Sanskrit Grammar, and dictionary. It's my understanding that the
> main difficulty is after breaking a sentence into words, seeing the purpose
> and meaning of each word. For that, the first place is a dictionary to go to
> the meaning of a word, and then some tables to understand the functionality
> (in, from, for, to etc. in case of nouns/adjectives/pronouns and tense/mood
> in case of verbs etc.) of the words. It seems to be a fairly simle thing to
> do once you get the hang of it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> PS: I would love to have the compliment of Shabda Manjari, called Dhatu
> Manjari. If someone could point me to it, I would be greatful. And if
> someone could point me to an alternative text with tables, that would be
> awesome.
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