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Re: L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' (Vis Tekumalla) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:58:18 -0500 From: "Pankaj Gupta" <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc. To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <005401c9eb65$d6a101b0$fb140...@pankajpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm sorry, the text that I wanted was http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/sanskrit/nrisimhastuti.pdf Not the other link. Kind Regards, Pankaj _____ From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Pankaj Gupta Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:55 AM To: 'Sanskrit Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc. Dear Sir Thank you so much. I pay my respects to you for offering help. It will be beneficial to hundreds of members of this mailing list. There is this text on <http://www.prapatti.com> http://www.prapatti.com (one of my favorite places to read small Sanskrit texts/sections). This is Prahlada's Stuti to Lord Narayan (from Bhagwatam I believe): http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/sanskrit/narasimhastotram1.pdf <http://www.prapatti.com> If you could give it's meaning, I would be really obligated. (I am also changing the tag to [L2]). Thank so much, and Kind Regards, Pankaj _____ From: thirunarayanan thirunarayanan [mailto:rthirunaraya...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:17 AM To: Pankaj Gupta Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc. sire, u r welcom. I am a sanskrit professor. please specify any small text in sanskrit unlike mahabharata, i shall be happy to post the translation word by word into english so as to enable all to learn sanskrit easier by examples. R.Thirunarayanan, sirrangam India --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com> wrote: From: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com> Subject: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc. To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Date: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 7:28 PM Hi I want to request every one who has basic familiarity with Sanskrit, or familiarity with some sanskrit texts - to share and write translations of any kinds of Sanskrit texts. There are not too many translations available on the net, many of the available translations omit original Sanskrit, and many are written with the intent to simply convey the meaning of the text, instead of as an aid to learning Sanskrit. It would be great if people who know sanskrit, help other people like myself learn and spread Sanskrit. I have found it a daunting task to learn Sanskrit. Nevertheless, over the years I have gained some familiarity and am able to decipher and understand simpler texts - not all of it but some portions, like a few lines from Mahabharat would be clear, and then the next few lines would be totally above me and so on. I belong to the school of 'learn by example'. Grammer etc. is not really for me. However, I have found Sandhi rules etc. to be very helpful. But really, if we could have translations of diverse Sanskrit texts, maybe giving word meanings or just plain explaination of what's going on - it would be great. Mahabharat, for example, proves a huge amount of text, with context familiarity to a lot of people here. I reqest knowledgeable members to provide learning to others. It is a great way to spread the knowledge of Sanskrit. Thanks and my regards to all. 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I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is "it". But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it" in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable. So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case pratyayas. But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are required ? Please explain. Anupam. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:09:08 +0000 From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <bay137-w257d15ffb4c456c502f4b5c8...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi everyone, I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for me. Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/ Todd > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530 > From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com > To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu > Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus > > Dear Friends, > > Greetings, > > I am a new member to this group. > > I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know > that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra > "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which > has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will > happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is > "it". > > But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it" > in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable. > So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case > pratyayas. > > But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to > have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are > required ? > > Please explain. > Anupam. > _______________________________________________ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit > and follow instructions. _________________________________________________________________ Drag n? drop?Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live? Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090614/70d162cc/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:35:06 +0000 From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <bay137-w6a10206c68f39542aba8cc8...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I meant to say "anyone is welcome who wants to join". sorry. From: toddgod...@hotmail.com To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:09:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group Hi everyone, I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for me. Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/ Todd > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530 > From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com > To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu > Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus > > Dear Friends, > > Greetings, > > I am a new member to this group. > > I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know > that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra > "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which > has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will > happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is > "it". > > But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it" > in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable. > So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case > pratyayas. > > But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to > have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are > required ? > > Please explain. > Anupam. > _______________________________________________ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit > and follow instructions. What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out _________________________________________________________________ Drag n? drop?Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live? Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090614/62623afd/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:57 +1000 From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHu8naAcsvtKqHz0eaeir8nCgAAAEAAAAID/p4qkwvlempjmpnwzkpubaaaaa...@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Todd I do want to join this group. Does this mean I need to change my e-mail address to a yahoo.com address? Vimala From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Godwin Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 10:09 PM To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group Hi everyone, I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for me. Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/ Todd > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530 > From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com > To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu > Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus > > Dear Friends, > > Greetings, > > I am a new member to this group. > > I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know > that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra > "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which > has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will > happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is > "it". > > But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it" > in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable. > So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case > pratyayas. > > But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to > have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are > required ? > > Please explain. > Anupam. > _______________________________________________ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit > and follow instructions. _____ What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx> out -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090615/7ce025ba/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:33:05 +0530 From: Harihara Padmanabhan <haribri...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <4904a1130906150003w16dff52au205ef35bfcc9d...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Shri Thirunarayan, I received your mail in the Sanskrit Group. I have a Shloka composed by Shri Adi Sankaracharya on Adwaita. I am giving below that please translate it for me. I am able to translate it partly but I want full translation. ?E? V?????i??i??? ???x?????x????x? ??? ???j??? |?n??{???n?E???? ????n????? ?????n??{?n????x????v??? ?E? V?????i????J?????? ???* S?I???i???? ?x??????x???n???????? ?E? ?v??v????n????x?? ?E? i?j??????i??? ?????x{?????E?? V?????i??i?n????? |?????** I came across this shloka in one of the books I have; its overall meaning about Adwaita has fascinated me. That is why I want word by word meaning of the same. Regards, Sincerely Padmanabhan -- Dr. N.P.H. Padmanabhan & Smt. Brinda Padmanabhan 301, Gharonda-Lanka Street No. 5, Jawahar Nagar Hyderabad 500020 Ph. +91402763 6749 / +914027631256 Cell: 94406 91162 E-Mail: haribri...@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090615/5b63f30e/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:00:10 +0000 From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <bay137-w29eb3be37eff3e83412931c8...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Vimala, I am not totally sure. you might try and sign up without a yahoo account and see what happens. But I believe you need a yahoo account to join. As you likely know, making one only takes a couple of minutes. Todd From: vsa...@bigpond.com To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:57 +1000 Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group Dear Todd I do want to join this group. Does this mean I need to change my e-mail address to a yahoo.com address? Vimala From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Godwin Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 10:09 PM To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group Hi everyone, I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for me. Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/ Todd > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530 > From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com > To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu > Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus > > Dear Friends, > > Greetings, > > I am a new member to this group. > > I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know > that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra > "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which > has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will > happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is > "it". > > But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it" > in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable. > So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case > pratyayas. > > But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to > have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are > required ? > > Please explain. > Anupam. > _______________________________________________ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit > and follow instructions. What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090615/028707cd/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:02:55 +0530 From: Krishnanand Mankikar <kdmanki...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <2b2948ae0906150932s2310f14t9723e1f2175b8...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Harihara, The font (DN) used by you is not readable please. Could you pl write in unicode? (or Sanskrit 98) Regards mankikar 2009/6/15 Harihara Padmanabhan <haribri...@gmail.com> > Dear Shri Thirunarayan, > I received your mail in the Sanskrit Group. > I have a Shloka composed by Shri Adi Sankaracharya on Adwaita. I am giving > below that please translate it for me. I am able to translate it partly but > I want full translation. > > ?E? V?????i??i??? ???x?????x????x? ??? ???j??? |?n??{???n?E???? > > ????n????? ?????n??{?n????x????v??? ?E? V?????i????J?????? ???* > > S?I???i???? ?x??????x???n???????? ?E? ?v??v????n????x?? > > ?E? i?j??????i??? ?????x{?????E?? V?????i??i?n????? |?????** > > I came across this shloka in one of the books I have; its overall meaning > about Adwaita has fascinated me. That is why I want word by word meaning of > the same. > > Regards, > Sincerely > Padmanabhan > > > -- > Dr. N.P.H. Padmanabhan & > Smt. Brinda Padmanabhan > 301, Gharonda-Lanka > Street No. 5, Jawahar Nagar > Hyderabad 500020 > > Ph. +91402763 6749 / +914027631256 > Cell: 94406 91162 > > E-Mail: haribri...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit > and follow instructions. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20090615/63cd9586/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:39:44 -0400 From: "Cohen, Arthur R. \(MD\)" <arco...@novanthealth.org> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <5252db48c4fedc4b9551162872b62cb4c7e...@exchange30.nh.novant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there anyway to copy and paste the ITRANS into a program that will reconvert it back to Devanagiri? It's easier for me to read and understand the devanagiri text than the roman text. Thank you.... Art Cohen Arthur R. Cohen, MD Department of Pathology 200 Hawthorne Lane Charlotte, NC 28204 704-384-5764 (W) 704-953-2468 (C) arco...@novanthealth.org ________________________________ From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:36 AM To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Subject: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' Hello all, It's heartening to see a list where I can post my long standing question. Is there any grammatical/shiksha/varNakrama/other dictate for swapped pronounciation of 'h' and 'anunasika' in the words like brahmana, vahni, ahna, etc. We have many north Indian scholars who pronounce them as they are written. At least on eminent scholar in Bangalore, Sri. Bannanje Govindacharya, very authentically says that the swapped pronounciation is a fallacy. I cannot believe that the entire gamut of Vedic scholars (particularly in southern India ), who preserve & revere Vedas more than their own life, could be that horribly wrong. A few who tried to answer the question quote, 'hakArannaNamaparanAsikAyaM" fom taittirya prAtisakhya (21.14). The sUtra however, according to tribhAShyaratna, vaidikAbharaNa, and padakramasAdana (of mAhiSheya) commentaries, only introduces an anunAsika 'Ha'kAra after the Ha-kAra when the later is followed by na/ma/Na. Could some one kindly through more light on the reason for varied prnounciation ? Many regards Venkatesh ----------------------------------------- This message and any included attachments are from NOVANT HEALTH INC. and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. 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(MD) <arco...@novanthealth.org> > Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' > To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> > Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there > anyway to copy and paste the ITRANS into a program that > will reconvert it back > to Devanagiri? It?s easier for me to read and > understand the devanagiri > text than the roman text. > > Thank you?. > > Art Cohen > > ? > > > > Arthur > R. > Cohen, MD > > Department > of > Pathology > > 200 > Hawthorne Lane > > Charlotte, > NC 28204 > > 704-384-5764 > (W) > > 704-953-2468 > (C) > > arco...@novanthealth.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu > [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of > Venkatesh > > Sent: > Wednesday, June 10, 2009 > 4:36 AM > > To: > sanskrit@cs.utah.edu > > Subject: > [Sanskrit] L2: > Pronounciation of 'brahma' > > > > ? > > Hello all, > > > > It's heartening to see a list where I can post my long > standing question. Is > there any grammatical/shiksha/varNakrama/other dictate for > swapped > pronounciation of? 'h' and 'anunasika' > in the words like brahmana, vahni, > ahna, etc. > > We have many north Indian scholars who pronounce them as > they are written. At > least on eminent scholar in Bangalore , > Sri. Bannanje Govindacharya, very authentically says that > the swapped > pronounciation is a fallacy. I cannot believe that the > entire gamut of Vedic > scholars (particularly in southern? > India ), who preserve & revere > Vedas more than their own life, could be that horribly > wrong. > > A few who tried to answer the question quote, > 'hakArannaNamaparanAsikAyaM" > fom taittirya prAtisakhya (21.14). The sUtra however, > according to > tribhAShyaratna, vaidikAbharaNa, and padakramasAdana (of > mAhiSheya) > commentaries, only introduces an anunAsika 'Ha'kAra > after the Ha-kAra when the > later is followed by na/ma/Na. > > > > Could some one kindly through more light on the reason for > varied prnounciation > ? > > > > Many regards > > Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > This message and any included attachments are from NOVANT > HEALTH INC. and are intended only for the addressee(s). 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