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1. Re: [Novice] Request for translations etc. (Pankaj Gupta)
2. gomaatRzatakam (Phillip Ernest)
3. Pratyaya in Dhaatus (anupam srivatsav)
4. Re: Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group (Todd Godwin)
5. Re: Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group (Todd Godwin)
6. Re: Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group (Vimala Sarma)
7. Re: Pratyaya in Dhaatus (Harihara Padmanabhan)
8. Re: Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group (Todd Godwin)
9. Re: Pratyaya in Dhaatus (Krishnanand Mankikar)
10. Re: L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' (Cohen, Arthur R. (MD))
11. Re: L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma' (Vis Tekumalla)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:58:18 -0500
From: "Pankaj Gupta" <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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I'm sorry, the text that I wanted was
http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/sanskrit/nrisimhastuti.pdf
Not the other link.
Kind Regards,
Pankaj
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From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Pankaj Gupta
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:55 AM
To: 'Sanskrit Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
Dear Sir
Thank you so much. I pay my respects to you for offering help. It will be
beneficial to hundreds of members of this mailing list.
There is this text on <http://www.prapatti.com> http://www.prapatti.com
(one of my favorite places to read small Sanskrit texts/sections). This is
Prahlada's Stuti to Lord Narayan (from Bhagwatam I believe):
http://www.prapatti.com/slokas/sanskrit/narasimhastotram1.pdf
<http://www.prapatti.com>
If you could give it's meaning, I would be really obligated.
(I am also changing the tag to [L2]).
Thank so much, and Kind Regards,
Pankaj
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From: thirunarayanan thirunarayanan [mailto:rthirunaraya...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:17 AM
To: Pankaj Gupta
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
sire, u r welcom. I am a sanskrit professor. please specify any small text
in sanskrit unlike mahabharata, i shall be happy to post the translation
word by word into english so as to enable all to learn sanskrit easier by
examples.
R.Thirunarayanan, sirrangam India
--- On Mon, 8/6/09, Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com> wrote:
From: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gu...@tower-research.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] [Novice] Request for translations etc.
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 7:28 PM
Hi
I want to request every one who has basic familiarity with Sanskrit, or
familiarity with some sanskrit texts - to share and write translations of
any kinds of Sanskrit texts. There are not too many translations available
on the net, many of the available translations omit original Sanskrit, and
many are written with the intent to simply convey the meaning of the text,
instead of as an aid to learning Sanskrit.
It would be great if people who know sanskrit, help other people like myself
learn and spread Sanskrit. I have found it a daunting task to learn
Sanskrit. Nevertheless, over the years I have gained some familiarity and am
able to decipher and understand simpler texts - not all of it but some
portions, like a few lines from Mahabharat would be clear, and then the next
few lines would be totally above me and so on.
I belong to the school of 'learn by example'. Grammer etc. is not really for
me. However, I have found Sandhi rules etc. to be very helpful.
But really, if we could have translations of diverse Sanskrit texts, maybe
giving word meanings or just plain explaination of what's going on - it
would be great. Mahabharat, for example, proves a huge amount of text, with
context familiarity to a lot of people here. I reqest knowledgeable members
to provide learning to others. It is a great way to spread the knowledge of
Sanskrit.
Thanks and my regards to all.
Pankaj
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:58:32 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Sanskrit] gomaatRzatakam
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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kiMcinnavamazvamitraracitaM kaavyaM gomaatRzatakamiti khyaatamatra
sthaane paThitavyamasti//
http://groups.google.co.in/group/humanities.language.sanskrit/browse_thread/thread/94fbe7ff8be01180?hl=en
kaviM praarthyedaM kaavyam devanaagariilipilikhitameva praapyamasti//
om namo gomaatre/
azvamitra
puNyapattane
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530
From: anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivat...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Dear Friends,
Greetings,
I am a new member to this group.
I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know
that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra
"hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which
has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will
happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is
"it".
But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it"
in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable.
So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case
pratyayas.
But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to
have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are
required ?
Please explain.
Anupam.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:09:08 +0000
From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <bay137-w257d15ffb4c456c502f4b5c8...@phx.gbl>
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Hi everyone,
I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal
Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the
book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as
far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this
is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off
can be a real help. It has been for me.
Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/
Todd
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530
> From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am a new member to this group.
>
> I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know
> that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra
> "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which
> has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will
> happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is
> "it".
>
> But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it"
> in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable.
> So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case
> pratyayas.
>
> But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to
> have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are
> required ?
>
> Please explain.
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:35:06 +0000
From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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I meant to say "anyone is welcome who wants to join". sorry.
From: toddgod...@hotmail.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:09:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
Hi everyone,
I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal
Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through the
book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily have to be as
far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult language and this
is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to bounce questions off
can be a real help. It has been for me.
Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/
Todd
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530
> From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am a new member to this group.
>
> I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know
> that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra
> "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which
> has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will
> happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is
> "it".
>
> But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it"
> in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable.
> So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case
> pratyayas.
>
> But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to
> have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are
> required ?
>
> Please explain.
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:57 +1000
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Dear Todd
I do want to join this group. Does this mean I need to change my e-mail
address to a yahoo.com address?
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Todd Godwin
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 10:09 PM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
Hi everyone,
I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through
Micheal Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way
through the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily
have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very difficult
language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a group to
bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for me.
Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/
Todd
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530
> From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am a new member to this group.
>
> I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know
> that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a sutra
> "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya which
> has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama will
> happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is
> "it".
>
> But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is "it"
> in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable.
> So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas, in this case
> pratyayas.
>
> But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are to
> have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d, u, nj are
> required ?
>
> Please explain.
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:33:05 +0530
From: Harihara Padmanabhan <haribri...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Dear Shri Thirunarayan,
I received your mail in the Sanskrit Group.
I have a Shloka composed by Shri Adi Sankaracharya on Adwaita. I am giving
below that please translate it for me. I am able to translate it partly but
I want full translation.
?E? V?????i??i??? ???x?????x????x? ??? ???j??? |?n??{???n?E????
????n????? ?????n??{?n????x????v??? ?E? V?????i????J?????? ???*
S?I???i???? ?x??????x???n???????? ?E? ?v??v????n????x??
?E? i?j??????i??? ?????x{?????E?? V?????i??i?n????? |?????**
I came across this shloka in one of the books I have; its overall meaning
about Adwaita has fascinated me. That is why I want word by word meaning of
the same.
Regards,
Sincerely
Padmanabhan
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:00:10 +0000
From: Todd Godwin <toddgod...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Vimala,
I am not totally sure. you might try and sign up without a yahoo account and
see what happens. But I believe you need a yahoo account to join. As you
likely know, making one only takes a couple of minutes.
Todd
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:57 +1000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
Dear Todd
I do want to join this group. Does this mean I need to change
my e-mail address to a yahoo.com address?
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Godwin
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 10:09 PM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Coulson's Teach yourself Sankrit yahoo group
Hi everyone,
I have started a group at yahoo groups in which we are working through Micheal
Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit. We are now about 1/3rd the way through
the book. Anyone who is welcome please join. You don't necessarily
have to be as far along in the book as we are. Sankrit is a very
difficult language and this is a difficult (but very good) book. Having a
group to bounce questions off can be a real help. It has been for
me.
Here is the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudyingSanskrit/
Todd
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:34:19 +0530
> From: anupam.srivat...@gmail.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am a new member to this group.
>
> I have some doubts regarding the Sanskrit Dhatu formations. We know
> that the "it"s are added to upadesha. For example, there is a
sutra
> "hrasvasya piti kriti tuk". It means taht when a krit pratyaya
which
> has p as the "it", is added to any hrasva dhaatu, tuk-aagama
will
> happen. In tuk, k is "it". tuk is a upadesha and therefore, k is
> "it".
>
> But, my question is about pit. lyap pratyaya is pit, as it p is
"it"
> in lyap. To other pit pratyayas also, the same rule is applicable.
> So, "it" is required to group all *qualifying" upadeshas,
in this case
> pratyayas.
>
> But, what is the requirement of "it" in Dhatus? Why Dhatus are
to
> have any "it"? For example, "dukrinj" karane. Why d,
u, nj are
> required ?
>
> Please explain.
> Anupam.
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:02:55 +0530
From: Krishnanand Mankikar <kdmanki...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Pratyaya in Dhaatus
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Dear Harihara,
The font (DN) used by you is not readable please.
Could you pl write in unicode? (or Sanskrit 98)
Regards
mankikar
2009/6/15 Harihara Padmanabhan <haribri...@gmail.com>
> Dear Shri Thirunarayan,
> I received your mail in the Sanskrit Group.
> I have a Shloka composed by Shri Adi Sankaracharya on Adwaita. I am giving
> below that please translate it for me. I am able to translate it partly but
> I want full translation.
>
> ?E? V?????i??i??? ???x?????x????x? ??? ???j??? |?n??{???n?E????
>
> ????n????? ?????n??{?n????x????v??? ?E? V?????i????J?????? ???*
>
> S?I???i???? ?x??????x???n???????? ?E? ?v??v????n????x??
>
> ?E? i?j??????i??? ?????x{?????E?? V?????i??i?n????? |?????**
>
> I came across this shloka in one of the books I have; its overall meaning
> about Adwaita has fascinated me. That is why I want word by word meaning of
> the same.
>
> Regards,
> Sincerely
> Padmanabhan
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:39:44 -0400
From: "Cohen, Arthur R. \(MD\)" <arco...@novanthealth.org>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma'
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Is there anyway to copy and paste the ITRANS into a program that will
reconvert it back to Devanagiri? It's easier for me to read and
understand the devanagiri text than the roman text.
Thank you....
Art Cohen
Arthur R. Cohen, MD
Department of Pathology
200 Hawthorne Lane
Charlotte, NC 28204
704-384-5764 (W)
704-953-2468 (C)
arco...@novanthealth.org
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From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On Behalf Of Venkatesh
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:36 AM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma'
Hello all,
It's heartening to see a list where I can post my long standing
question. Is there any grammatical/shiksha/varNakrama/other dictate for
swapped pronounciation of 'h' and 'anunasika' in the words like
brahmana, vahni, ahna, etc.
We have many north Indian scholars who pronounce them as they are
written. At least on eminent scholar in Bangalore, Sri. Bannanje
Govindacharya, very authentically says that the swapped pronounciation
is a fallacy. I cannot believe that the entire gamut of Vedic scholars
(particularly in southern India ), who preserve & revere Vedas more
than their own life, could be that horribly wrong.
A few who tried to answer the question quote,
'hakArannaNamaparanAsikAyaM" fom taittirya prAtisakhya (21.14). The
sUtra however, according to tribhAShyaratna, vaidikAbharaNa, and
padakramasAdana (of mAhiSheya) commentaries, only introduces an
anunAsika 'Ha'kAra after the Ha-kAra when the later is followed by
na/ma/Na.
Could some one kindly through more light on the reason for varied
prnounciation ?
Many regards
Venkatesh
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <vistekuma...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma'
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Yes. You may try itranslator 99 available from the Omkarananda sanskrit site.
http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html
...Vis tekumallavistekuma...@yahoo.com
--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Cohen, Arthur R. (MD) <arco...@novanthealth.org> wrote:
> From: Cohen, Arthur R. (MD) <arco...@novanthealth.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] L2: Pronounciation of 'brahma'
> To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:39 AM
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> Is there
> anyway to copy and paste the ITRANS into a program that
> will reconvert it back
> to Devanagiri? It?s easier for me to read and
> understand the devanagiri
> text than the roman text.
>
> Thank you?.
>
> Art Cohen
>
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> Arthur
> R.
> Cohen, MD
>
> Department
> of
> Pathology
>
> 200
> Hawthorne Lane
>
> Charlotte,
> NC 28204
>
> 704-384-5764
> (W)
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> 704-953-2468
> (C)
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> arco...@novanthealth.org
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> From:
> sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
> [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of
> Venkatesh
>
> Sent:
> Wednesday, June 10, 2009
> 4:36 AM
>
> To:
> sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>
> Subject:
> [Sanskrit] L2:
> Pronounciation of 'brahma'
>
>
>
> ?
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> It's heartening to see a list where I can post my long
> standing question. Is
> there any grammatical/shiksha/varNakrama/other dictate for
> swapped
> pronounciation of? 'h' and 'anunasika'
> in the words like brahmana, vahni,
> ahna, etc.
>
> We have many north Indian scholars who pronounce them as
> they are written. At
> least on eminent scholar in Bangalore ,
> Sri. Bannanje Govindacharya, very authentically says that
> the swapped
> pronounciation is a fallacy. I cannot believe that the
> entire gamut of Vedic
> scholars (particularly in southern?
> India ), who preserve & revere
> Vedas more than their own life, could be that horribly
> wrong.
>
> A few who tried to answer the question quote,
> 'hakArannaNamaparanAsikAyaM"
> fom taittirya prAtisakhya (21.14). The sUtra however,
> according to
> tribhAShyaratna, vaidikAbharaNa, and padakramasAdana (of
> mAhiSheya)
> commentaries, only introduces an anunAsika 'Ha'kAra
> after the Ha-kAra when the
> later is followed by na/ma/Na.
>
>
>
> Could some one kindly through more light on the reason for
> varied prnounciation
> ?
>
>
>
> Many regards
>
> Venkatesh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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