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Today's Topics:
1. Re: svara - another one of my corrections (Jay Vaidya)
2. Re: Meaning of 'Arjuna' (Phillip Hill)
3. FW: mahAbhArata arjuna - dasha - nAma nirvachanas for arjuna
& kR^ishhNa nAmas (Phillip Hill)
4. Re: Meaning of 'Arjuna' (Suryansu Ray)
5. Re: Meaning of 'Arjuna' (RAMESH RAMANAN)
6. Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Shreyas P. Munshi)
7. Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Shreyas P. Munshi)
8. Re: Meaning of 'Arjuna' (Vis Tekumalla)
9. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5 (vararo devaraj)
10. Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Vidya R)
11. Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Suryansu Ray)
12. Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Vimala Sarma)
13. Re :Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase (Shreyas P. Munshi)
14. Re: Textbook available on Google Books (krishna hm)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Vaidya <deejayvai...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] svara - another one of my corrections
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Shri Shashikant writes:
> Please verify?your following correction (in italics)----
> My Q. should there be a "vertical mark" on top of the?'akshara' "t" in the
> devanagari script of the word "ratnadhAtamam"? Yout text says that it is so!
This is correct. The svarita is the "ta". The vertical line is on top of the
"ta".
(I should take much greater care proofreading. I apologize.)
"consider the word "ratnadhAtamam" from RV1.1.1
It is written as follows:
hotAram ????????????
ra (no mark)
tna (underline)
dhA (no mark)
ta (vertical line above)
mam (no mark)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:55:04 -0400
From: Phillip Hill <divyastra2002...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
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The dictionary meanings of arjuna as white & pure suggest shuddhatva - anagha.
The arch - dhAtu - to worship may also be considered.
Bryan
Hill
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:35:16 -0400
> From: msangh...@gmail.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
>
> arjuna means white or clear. it seems to me to be derived from arj
> dhaatu meaning to take or procure with the kRdanta suffix una. But how
> this translates into white/clear is something that the pandits can
> explain.
>
> -mihir sanghavi
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Dravid, Narayan V.
> (GRC-DPP0)<narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > Now that this web site has been revived again, I am venturing with
> > my first query. Someone asked me what does the word ?Arjuna? means as far as
> > it relates to the hero in Mahabharata epic. I have heard of a tree called
> > ?Yamalarjuna? but I don?t know if the two have any connection. Could
> > someone help?
> > Thanks. Narayan Dravid
> >
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:20:55 -0400
From: Phillip Hill <divyastra2002...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] FW: mahAbhArata arjuna - dasha - nAma nirvachanas
for arjuna & kR^ishhNa nAmas
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pR^ithivyAM chaturantAyAM varNo me durlabhaH samaH
karomi karma shuklaM cha tasmAnmAmarjunaM viduH 4.44.20
They call me Arjuna because my complexion is very rare within the four
boundaries of the earth and because also my acts are always stainless.
kR^ishhNa ityeva dashamaM nAma chakre pitA mama
kR^ishhNAvadAtasya tataH priyatvAdbAlakasya vai (4.44.22)
And Krishna, my tenth appellation, was given to me by my father out of
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
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To
David Narayan V.
?
Sir,
The word arjuna is derived from the dhAtu "arj" with the suffix "unan" in
active voice. Its various meanings are: as a noun masculine 1. shuddhasvabhAva
(one with a pure immutable character) -- as used in the gItA. 2. The only son
of a mother. 3. peacock. 4. kakubha tree. 5. the color white. As an adjective
6. white colored. As a noun neuter? 7. grass (particularly the white variety).
8. A~njani, As a noun feminine with form "arjunI" 9. dawn. 10. cow. 11.
kuTTinI. 12. The river called karatoyA.
?
With best wishes,
Dr. Suryansu Ray, New Delhi.
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0) <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
wrote:
From: Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0) <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
To: "sanskrit@cs.utah.edu" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:12 PM
Hello All,
??????? Now that this web site has been revived again, I am venturing with my
first query. Someone asked me what does the word ?Arjuna? means as far as it
relates to the hero in Mahabharata epic. I have heard of a tree called
?Yamalarjuna?? but I don?t know if the two have any connection. Could someone
help?
Thanks.? Narayan Dravid
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:28:32 +0000 (GMT)
From: RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshrama...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
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Pranams,
I had read in the Tattvaaloka once that Sri Chandrashekara Bharathi Theertha
Mahaswami, the 34th peetadhipathi has said that Arjuna means sinless one.
Pranams again. Ramesh
--- On Tue, 14/7/09, Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
> To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 8:58 AM
> To
> David Narayan V.
> ?
> Sir,
> The word arjuna is derived from the dhAtu
> "arj" with the suffix "unan" in active
> voice. Its various meanings are: as a noun masculine 1.
> shuddhasvabhAva (one with a pure immutable character) -- as
> used in the gItA. 2. The only son of a mother. 3. peacock.
> 4. kakubha tree. 5. the color white. As an adjective 6.
> white colored. As a noun neuter? 7. grass (particularly
> the white variety). 8. A~njani, As a noun feminine with form
> "arjunI" 9. dawn. 10. cow. 11. kuTTinI. 12. The
> river called karatoyA.
> ?
> With best wishes,
> Dr. Suryansu Ray, New Delhi.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)
> <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)
> <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
> Subject: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
> To: "sanskrit@cs.utah.edu"
> <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:12 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello All,
> ??????? Now that
> this web site has been revived again, I am venturing with my
> first query. Someone asked me what does the word
> ?Arjuna? means as far as it relates to the hero in
> Mahabharata epic. I have heard of a tree called
> ?Yamalarjuna?? but I don?t know if the two have
> any connection. Could someone help?
> Thanks.? Narayan
> Dravid
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Message: 6
Date: 14 Jul 2009 10:20:10 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
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Yes Vimala,
Very well stated.
In a lighter vein, I have always said that when incorrectly pronounced as
'Haare Ram, Haare Krishna, RamaKrishna Haare Haare', it means "Ram (got)
defeated, Krshna (got) defeated", (yes, they got) defeated, (yes,they
got)defeated!! (In fact that seems to describe the situation today in India of
Rama and Krishna, no?)...Shreyas
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:14:01 +0530 wrote
>Or to put it into Western grammatical terms
>
>Hare is the vocative sing masc in the short i (i.e. Hari - epithet of
>Vishnu) paradigm, as in muni declension.
>
>HariH here is nominative, sing, masc - same declension paradigm, as above,
>and hariH is in apposition to Om - both are in the same case and number, the
>verb "asti" is understood.
>
>
>
>Vimala
>
>
>
>From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
>Behalf Of Vidya R
>Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 7:03 AM
>To: Sanskrit Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>
>
>1. ??hare rAma is -> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma' ('akArAntaH')
>and 'hari' ('ikArAntaH') . ??So, you are just calling out to them. ??'he
>rAma', 'he hare' |
>
>2. ??hariH Om -> is a statement that equates 'hari' ('hariH = prathamA, eka
>vachanam') to the praNava mantra 'Om'.
>
>vidyA
>
> ??_____ ??
>
>From: Kattamuri Ekanadham
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45:35 AM
>Subject: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following two phrases
>that are commonly used?
>
>
>
>1. harE rAma ??(is this to be understood as ??harihi + rAma and does this mean
>
>that "only hari is rAma"?)
>
>
>
>2. harihi Om ??(same question as above)
>
>
>
>I am interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what is
>the root
>
>and in what case each word is composed and to mean what.
>
>
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Date: 14 Jul 2009 10:33:34 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
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Should not "hariH Om" be simply 'hari Om'? I thought the visarga before the
'om' symbol is dropped. If 'i' of Hari is followed by another vowel, the sandhi
rules apply, no? Like 'Hari' plus 'IchhA' becomes HarIchha', no?. My query is
here because I have not studied Sanskrit after my school days, 56 years ago. So
pl enlighten me, dont get angry...Shreyas
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:32:25 +0530 wrote
>1. ??hare rAma is -> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma' ('akArAntaH')
>and 'hari' ('ikArAntaH') . ??So, you are just calling out to them. ??'he
>rAma', 'he hare' |
>
>
>2. ??hariH Om -> is a statement that equates 'hari' ('hariH = prathamA, eka
>vachanam') to the praNava mantra 'Om'.
>
>vidyA
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Kattamuri Ekanadham
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45:35 AM
>Subject: [Sanskrit] ??meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following two phrases that
>are commonly used?
>
>1. harE rAma ??(is this to be understood as ??harihi + rAma and does this mean
>that "only hari is rAma"?)
>
>2. harihi Om ??(same question as above)
>
>I am interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what is the
>root
>and in what case each word is composed and to mean what.
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <vistekuma...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
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A few years ago Mr. P.K. Ramakrishnan posted a knotty verse from Vyasa
Mahabharata (Virata Parva) which goes:
nadiijalaM keshavanaariketu nagaahvayo naama nagaarisuunuH. eSaa~Nganaa
veSadharaH kiriiTii jitvaa vayaM neSyati chaadya gaavaH..
In this, the "nagaahvayonaama" is "one named after a tree," i.e., Arjuna.
"nagaarisuunuH," "a`Nganaa veShadharaH," and "kiriiTii" are all Arjuna too.
...Vis Tekumalla
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--- On Tue, 7/14/09, RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshrama...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> From: RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshrama...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
> To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 2:28 AM
>
>
> Pranams,
> I had read in the Tattvaaloka once that Sri Chandrashekara
> Bharathi Theertha Mahaswami, the 34th peetadhipathi has said
> that Arjuna means sinless one. Pranams again. Ramesh
>
> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
> > To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 8:58 AM
> > To
> > David Narayan V.
> > ?
> > Sir,
> > The word arjuna is derived from the dhAtu
> > "arj" with the suffix "unan" in active
> > voice. Its various meanings are: as a noun masculine
> 1.
> > shuddhasvabhAva (one with a pure immutable character)
> -- as
> > used in the gItA. 2. The only son of a mother. 3.
> peacock.
> > 4. kakubha tree. 5. the color white. As an adjective
> 6.
> > white colored. As a noun neuter? 7. grass
> (particularly
> > the white variety). 8. A~njani, As a noun feminine
> with form
> > "arjunI" 9. dawn. 10. cow. 11. kuTTinI. 12. The
> > river called karatoyA.
> > ?
> > With best wishes,
> > Dr. Suryansu Ray, New Delhi.
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)
> > <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)
> > <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
> > Subject: [Sanskrit] Meaning of 'Arjuna'
> > To: "sanskrit@cs.utah.edu"
> > <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> > Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 6:12 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> > ??????? Now that
> > this web site has been revived again, I am venturing
> with my
> > first query. Someone asked me what does the word
> > ?Arjuna? means as far as it relates to the hero
> in
> > Mahabharata epic. I have heard of a tree called
> > ?Yamalarjuna?? but I don?t know if the two
> have
> > any connection. Could someone help?
> > Thanks.? Narayan
> > Dravid
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:30:05 +0530
From: vararo devaraj <ravivar...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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<< Now that this web site has been revived again, I am venturing with
my first query. Someone asked me what does the word 'Arjuna' means as
far as it relates to the hero in Mahabharata epic. I have heard of a
tree called 'Yamalarjuna' but I don't know if the two have any
connection. Could someone help?>>
Though there is such an Arjuna character in Mahabharatha, in reality
it is a tree, Jerminalia and that was uprooted by Krishna during his
childhood.
??? yamala
??? a. Twin, one of a couple. -?? The number 'two'. -?? (dual) A pair.
-???, -?? A pair, couple. -?? A kind of hiccough. -?? A dress
consisting of two pieces. -Comp. -??????? two Arjuna trees (uprooted
by K?i??a in childhood); Bh?g.1.1.23-24. -??? Bauhinia Variegata (Mar.
?????-????). -????? N. of two trees (??????? and ????????). -??????
The treaty of alliance.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vidya R <imarch...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
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namaste / Hari Om!
HariH Om is HariH Om (as laid out earlier.)
Hari Om - It is a good question, and has given me cause to pause. I will leave
it to more knowledgable people to resolve it.
vidyA
(Hari Om, I have come to infer, can be one of 2 things:
1. a modern-day version of HariH Om.
2. When used as a samasta-padam (like hyphenated words in English), only the
'stem' or 'prAtipadikam' is considered.
For the samamsta-padam, there are 2 aspects to highlight:
a. dadhi + odanam becomes dadhyodanam -> i + o = yo
b. I suspect 'Om' remains intact and does not get involved in Sandhi.
3. hariH oNati may be hariroNati -> I confess I am not sure.
)
________________________________
From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
To: imarch...@yahoo.com
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:33:34 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
Should not "hariH Om" be simply 'hari Om'? I thought the visarga before the
'om' symbol is dropped. If 'i' of Hari is followed by another vowel, the sandhi
rules apply, no? Like 'Hari' plus 'IchhA' becomes HarIchha', no?. My query is
here because I have not studied Sanskrit after my school days, 56 years ago. So
pl enlighten me, dont get angry...Shreyas
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:32:25 +0530 wrote
>1. ? hare rAma is -> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma' ('akArAntaH')
>and 'hari' ('ikArAntaH') . ? So, you are just calling out to them. ? 'he
>rAma', 'he hare' |
>
>
>2. ? hariH Om -> is a statement that equates 'hari' ('hariH = prathamA, eka
>vachanam') to the praNava mantra 'Om'.
>
>vidyA
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Kattamuri Ekanadham
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45:35 AM
>Subject: [Sanskrit] ? meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following two phrases that
>are commonly used?
>
>1. harE rAma ? (is this to be understood as ? harihi + rAma and does this mean
>that "only hari is rAma"?)
>
>2. harihi Om ? (same question as above)
>
>I am interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what is the
>root
>and in what case each word is composed and to mean what.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Suryansu Ray <suryansu...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
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Namaste!
?
hari om is a bIja-mantra.Hence hari is not inflected as hariH om and the sandhi
form harirom. Similarly, it is not inflected as in the vocative case hare, like
hare rAma. The standard form of this mantra is hari om tat sat.
?
With best wishes,
Dr. Suryansu Ray, New Delhi
--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Vidya R <imarch...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Vidya R <imarch...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 6:16 PM
namaste / Hari Om!
HariH Om is HariH Om (as laid out earlier.)
Hari Om - It is a good question, and has given me cause to pause.? I will leave
it to more knowledgable people to resolve it.
vidyA
(Hari Om, I have come to infer, can be one of 2 things:
1.? a modern-day version of HariH Om.
2.? When used as a samasta-padam (like hyphenated words in English), only the
'stem' or 'prAtipadikam' is considered.
???? For the samamsta-padam, there are 2 aspects to highlight:
???? a.? dadhi + odanam becomes dadhyodanam -> i + o = yo
???? b.? I suspect 'Om' remains intact and does not get involved in Sandhi.
3.? hariH oNati may be hariroNati -> I confess I am not sure.
)
From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
To: imarch...@yahoo.com
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:33:34 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
Should not "hariH Om" be simply 'hari Om'? I thought the visarga before the
'om' symbol is dropped. If 'i' of Hari is followed by another vowel, the sandhi
rules apply, no? Like 'Hari' plus 'IchhA' becomes HarIchha', no?. My query is
here because I have not studied Sanskrit after my school days, 56 years ago. So
pl enlighten me, dont get angry...Shreyas
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:32:25 +0530 wrote
>1. ??hare rAma is -> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma' ('akArAntaH')
>and 'hari' ('ikArAntaH') . ??So, you are just calling out to them. ??'he
>rAma', 'he hare' |
>
>
>2. ??hariH Om -> is a statement that equates 'hari' ('hariH = prathamA, eka
>vachanam') to the praNava mantra 'Om'.
>
>vidyA
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Kattamuri Ekanadham
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45:35 AM
>Subject: [Sanskrit] ??meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following two phrases that
>are commonly used?
>
>1. harE rAma ??(is this to be understood as ??harihi + rAma and does this mean
>that "only hari is rAma"?)
>
>2. harihi Om ??(same question as above)
>
>I am interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what is the
>root
>and in what case each word is composed and to mean what.
>
>
> ?? ?? ??_______________________________________________
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From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
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Sandhi does not apply to Om and vocatives, - OM stands on its own.
Visarga endings are not dropped ? it is a grammatical ending ? it may be
changed ? ie for the iH ending, the visarga would become r before vowels.
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of Shreyas P. Munshi
Sent: Tuesday, 14 July 2009 8:34 PM
To: imarch...@yahoo.com
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a phrase
Should not "hariH Om" be simply 'hari Om'? I thought the visarga before the
'om' symbol is dropped. If 'i' of Hari is followed by another vowel, the
sandhi rules apply, no? Like 'Hari' plus 'IchhA' becomes HarIchha', no?. My
query is here because I have not studied Sanskrit after my school days, 56
years ago. So pl enlighten me, dont get angry...Shreyas
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:32:25 +0530 wrote
>1. ? hare rAma is -> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma'
('akArAntaH') and 'hari' ('ikArAntaH') . ? So, you are just calling out to
them. ? 'he rAma', 'he hare' |
>
>
>2. ? hariH Om -> is a statement that equates 'hari' ('hariH = prathamA, eka
vachanam') to the praNava mantra 'Om'.
>
>vidyA
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Kattamuri Ekanadham
>To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:45:35 AM
>Subject: [Sanskrit] ? meaning/etymology of a phrase
>
>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following two phrases
that are commonly used?
>
>1. harE rAma ? (is this to be understood as ? harihi + rAma and does this
mean
>that "only hari is rAma"?)
>
>2. harihi Om ? (same question as above)
>
>I am interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what is
the root
>and in what case each word is composed and to mean what.
>
>
> ? ? ? _______________________________________________
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Date: 16 Jul 2009 08:54:03 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re :Re: meaning/etymology of a phrase
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Vimala,While our answer is well uderstood, the foolowing is a copy-paste reply
from a scholar:Quotehari om is a bIja-mantra.Hence hari is not inflected as
hariH om and the sandhi form harirom. Similarly, it is not inflected as in the
vocative case hare, like hare rAma. The standard form of this mantra is hari om
tat sat.
With best wishes,
Dr. Suryansu Ray, New DelhiUnquoteYours and Dr Ray's assertion seems to differ.
Pl elaborate...ShreyasOn Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:29:46 +1000 Sanskrit Mailing List
wroteSandhi does not apply to Om and vocatives, - OM stands on itsown. Visarga
endings are not dropped ??? it is a grammaticalending ??? it may be changed ???
ie for the ???iH ending, the visargawould become r before
vowels.Vimala From:
sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of
Shreyas P. MunshiSent: Tuesday, 14 July 2009 8:34 PMTo: imarch...@yahoo.comcc:
sansk...@cs.utah.edusubject: Re: [Sanskrit] meaning/etymology of a
phrase Should not "hariH Om" be simply 'hari Om'? I thought the
visargabefore the 'om' symbol is dropped. If 'i' of Hari is followed by another
vowel,the sandhi rules apply, no? Like 'Hari' plus 'IchhA' becomes HarIchha',
no?. Myquery is here because I have not studied Sanskrit after my school days,
56years ago. So pl enlighten me, dont get angry...Sh
reyas On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:32:25 +0530 wrote>1. ??? hare rAma is
-> sambodhana prathamA of the 2 words 'rAma'('akArAntaH') and 'hari'
('ikArAntaH') . ??? So, you are just calling out tothem. ??? 'he
rAma', 'he hare' |>>>2. ??? hariH Om -> is a statement that
equates 'hari' ('hariH =prathamA, eka vachanam') to the praNava mantra
'Om'.>>vidyA>>>>________________________________>From:
Kattamuri Ekanadham >To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009
8:45:35 AM>Subject: [Sanskrit] ??? meaning/etymology of a
phrase>>What is the origin/ meaning/"pada vibhajana" of the following
twophrases that are commonly used?>>1. harE rAma ??? (is this to be
understood as ??? harihi + rAma anddoes this mean>that "only hari is
rAma"?)>>2. harihi Om ??? (same question as above)>>I am
interested in the linguistic formation of these two phrases - what isthe
root>and in wha
t case each word is composed and to mean what.>>> ??? ???
??? _______________________________________________>To UNSUBSCRIBE or
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Road,Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981
981 8197
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:36:28 +0530 (IST)
From: krishna hm <hmkrishna20032...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Textbook available on Google Books
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Thank you Pankaj Gupta.
regards
Krishna HM
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Sent: Monday, 13 July, 2009 10:16:35 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] Textbook available on Google Books
Hi
I would like to share this book with everyone. It is freely
available on google books. It contains Sanskrit text of parts of Hitopadesha
along with word to word translations.
http://books.google.com/books?id=-DApAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Sanskrit+Translation&lr=&as_brr=1#PPA1,M1
I
would greatly appreciate if you can share any similar full books available on
the net.
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