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1. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5 umasutam - Clarification
. reg (hn bhat)
2. Re: Raghava Yadaveeyam (anupam srivatsav)
3. katapayadi system (Anand)
4. any sanskrit courses in mumbai ??? (gopal narayan)
5. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam - Clarification
. reg (Vimala Sarma)
6. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam - Clarification
. reg (Vimala Sarma)
7. Re: For adminstrator's use ONLY--not for posting!!Re:
Advantages of learning Sanskrit (Vimala Sarma)
8. [Admin] Please read (Naresh Cuntoor)
9. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg (Naresh Cuntoor)
10. Re: any sanskrit courses in mumbai ??? (Krishnanand Mankikar)
11. yamakabhaaratam (Phillip Ernest)
12. Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel symbol (default siva)
13. Re: Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel symbol
(Jonathan Gold)
14. Is it tastulyaM or tattulyaM at the end of shrI-raama-raameti
shloka? (Ramakrishna Upadrasta)
15. Re: Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel symbol
(Vimala Sarma)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:23:16 -1200
From: hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
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>
> I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my
> explanation.
>
> Vimala
>
I could not understand how Vimalaji arrived at such a conclusion that
nammami should take dative case?
What my friend Ayurveda Narayanan has explained is too basic of grammar to
require any explanation. It is completely perfect.
--
Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
EFEO,
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:45:09 +0530
From: anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivat...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Raghava Yadaveeyam
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Dear Sri S Raman,
> GandharvarAjapuShpadantAcArya k^rita ?mahimnastOtram which is published by
> Chowkamba Sanskrit Series (Document 68). It has been elaborately commented
> by MadhusUdana saraswati..
Thanks a lot for this group for a nice discussion. I just now came to
know that the mahimnastoram is dvyarthakam. I shall try to see that.
With regards,
Anupam.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:16:12 +0530
From: Anand <synet...@mtnl.net.in>
Subject: [Sanskrit] katapayadi system
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Dear Friend ,
Here is the brief on Katapayadi system copied from somewhere on the net.
The ka-Ta-pa-ya scheme:
The 'ka-Ta-pa-ya' rule used by ancient Indian mathematicians and grammarians
is a tool to map names to numbers. Writing the consonants of the Sanskrit
alphabet as four groups with 'ka, Ta, pa, ya' as the beginning letters of
the groups we get
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
ka kha ga gha ~ma cha Cha ja jha ~na
Ta Tha Da Dha Na ta tha da dha na
pa pha ba bha ma
ya ra la va Sa sha sa ha
Now, each letter of the group is numbered from 1 through 9 and 0 for the
tenth
letter. Thus, ka is 1, sa is 7, ma is 5, na is 0 and so on. So to indicate
the number 356 for example one would try and come up with a word involving
the third, fifth and sixth letters of the groups like 'gaNitam' or 'lESaca'.
However, in the Indian tradition, the digits of a number are written left to
right in the increasing order of their place value - exactly opposite the
way
we are used to writing in the western way. Therefore 356 would be indicated
using letters in the 6th, 5th, and 3rd positions of the group e.g.
'triSUlaM'.
There apparently were upto 4 flavors of this scheme in use in ancient
India. These differ in how to interpret the conjoint consonant. The popular
scheme was to use only the last consonant. And any consonant not attached
to a vowel is to be disregarded. These rules should be used while decoding
a phrase in 'katapayadi' scheme.
The following phrase found in 'sadratnamAla' a treatise on astronomy,
bhadram budhi siddha janma gaNita srad...@h mayadbhup...@h
when decoded yields
4 2 3 9 7 8 5 3 5 6 2 9 5 1 4 1 3
which when reversed gives
3 1 4 1 5 9 2 6 5 3 5 8 7 9 3 2 4
which is readily recognised as the digits in 'pi' (except that the 17th
digit is wrong - it should be 3) :-)!
Regards ,
Anand
A. K. Ghurye
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:55:59 +0530
From: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] any sanskrit courses in mumbai ???
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jai gurudev
dear friends,
this question is out of the subject still i will ask.
any good sanskrit school/courses in mumbai ???
i live in santacruz mumbai.
om shakti
gopal
On 10/5/09, hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my
> explanation.
> >
> > Vimala
> >
>
> I could not understand how Vimalaji arrived at such a conclusion that
> nammami should take dative case?
>
> What my friend Ayurveda Narayanan has explained is too basic of grammar to
> require any explanation. It is completely perfect.--
> Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
> EFEO,
> PONDICHERRY
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:49:28 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
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Thanks ? I clarifies it for me!
Vimala
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Sent: Monday, 5 October 2009 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
No, it is not the case. Only the avyaya word namaH is governed by the pANini
rule "namaHsvastisvAhAsvadhAlaMvashaDyogAcca (2.3.016)". The root nam takes
dvitIyA vibhakti.
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my
explanation.
Vimala
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:59:50 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
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Thanks very much, Dr Narayana - Ji ? this clarifies it for me!
Vimala
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Sent: Monday, 5 October 2009 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
No, it is not the case. Only the avyaya word namaH is governed by the pANini
rule "namaHsvastisvAhAsvadhAlaMvashaDyogAcca (2.3.016)". The root nam takes
dvitIyA vibhakti.
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Clarification . reg
I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my
explanation.
Vimala
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:51:31 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] For adminstrator's use ONLY--not for
posting!!Re: Advantages of learning Sanskrit
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Dear Shasikant-Vijaya
Sorry that you find my comments offensive ? It is not meant as such. I am only
stating facts.
Vimala
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Behalf Of Shashikant-Vijaya Ambegaokars
Sent: Monday, 5 October 2009 3:59 PM
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Subject: [Sanskrit] For adminstrator's use ONLY--not for posting!!Re:
Advantages of learning Sanskrit
PLEASE---NOT MEANT FOR POSTING-- MEANT FOR ADMINISTRATOR'S USE ONLY.
1.Kashinath's post is very good ; was able to open the 2nd link and it has very
good discussion by Mahadeo;but am unable to open the first link
(amrita.edu).any suggestions?
2. THE POSTS BY VIMALA SARMA ARE RATHER OFFENSIVE; SHE MAY BE OVER-PROTECTIVE
OF HER SECULAR MINDSET!!
--- On Sun, 10/4/09, kashinath kambli <kashinathkam...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: kashinath kambli <kashinathkam...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 6:03 PM
Plz Read the following to find out some more relevance of Sanskrit!
www.amrita.edu/downloads/sanskrit%20relevance.pdf
www.iimb.ernet.in/~mahadev/samskrit_why.pdf
kashi
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Vis Tekumalla <vistekuma...@yahoo.com
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vistekuma...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
I recall some work was done investigating Sanskrit for natural language
processing in the Artificial Intelligence field (AI) and some papers were
published in that area. Here is one, an interesting paper by Rick Briggs of
NASA (unfortunately I didn't keep up with that work). One is an abstract and
the other is the full text (pdf) of that article.
http://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aimagazine/article/viewArticle/466
http://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aimagazine/article/view/466/402
...Vis Tekumalla
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vistekuma...@yahoo.com>
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--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vsa...@bigpond.com> > wrote:
From: Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vsa...@bigpond.com> >
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 12:30 AM
Shobha- Ji
All that is necessary is to say that Sa?skrit is the source of all
Indo-European roots and has a rich culture and long history, great literature,
and can be traced back to the vedic tradition. It is not necessary to
over-embellish.
Its grammar has some irregularities, it is not the source of all languages in
the world and it is moot point on whether it originated in India or in a region
in north west which subsequently spread to Iran and India. Even though it is
concise, the religious literature can be repetitious and sometimes prone to
over-exaggeration. We Indians like to think about the language as part of the
religion, but this aspect may not be of interest to others. I am not sure
about improvement in mathematical skills, logic, etc but I am willing to be
persuaded. Any kind of memorization helps keep the mind in good order.
Vimala
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On Behalf Of Shobha Saraiya
Sent: Saturday, 3 October 2009 1:53 AM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit
Ananaji,
I tell my students the following why they should learn samskritam.
1] All the Languages have come from Samskritam.
2] All our scriptures(i.e slokas,geetam, kritis..etc) are written in
Samskritam, so it is important to know the meaning when one is reciting or
chanting them.
3] When we listen the commentry translated from Samskritam to English or any
other langauge the bhava or the original meaning gets lost.
4] Samskritam is the language of Gods and originated in India.
5] It is a very sweet and humble loving language.
7] The Grammer is so perfect...I am only a novice at learning Sanskrit and
everyday
I get amazed how perfect it is mathematically. No wonder it is close to
computers.
6] And all the excellent reasonings below.
_Shobha_.
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Anand <synet...@mtnl.net.in
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=synet...@mtnl.net.in> > wrote:
From: Anand <synet...@mtnl.net.in
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=synet...@mtnl.net.in> >
Subject: [Sanskrit] Advantages of learning Sanskrit
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sansk...@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:39 PM
Dear Friends ,
I am putting together a little presentation on the advantages of learning
Sanskrit in day to day life . Can you please help me by adding to the
advantages and sharing examples . I am giving some application / advantages
below .
Memory improvement - remembering large numbers through katyapayadi
Improvement in pronunciation
Improvement in mathematical skills
Improvement in logical reasoning
Understanding the hidden meanings of day to day words and thus learning our
mother tongue better
Understanding the beauty underlying the religious poems and their
coorelation to learning e. g. Ramo Rajamani sada vijayate ..........
connected to Vibhaktis
Raising the just pride in our heritage
Ease of realising philological and philosophical thoughts
Quality of Conciseness
Thanks in advance.
Regards ,
Anand
A. K. Ghurye
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:15:55 -0400
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Subject: [Sanskrit] [Admin] Please read
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:31:28 -0400
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 umasutam -
Clarification . reg
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[Sending on behalf of Sri Srikrishnan whose message did not make it to
the list. - Naresh]
namastE !
This refers to the topic being discussed by Sri HN Bhat and Sri
Ayurveda Narayanan on "..vighnEshwarapaadapankajam"..
I had the _same_ doubt as expressed by Sri BHat when I first heard
this Sloka several years back. I approached an elderly relative (he
is no more) who was a Sanskrit scholar to get some help on this. He
agreed that the usage is questionable, but suggested a rather
roundabout way to solve this. The following is what he proposed:
The objective is: to interpret "vighnEshwarapaadapankaja" such that it
means "Ganapati" and not his lotus-feet.
For this, first, split the word vigneshwarapaadapnkaja as "the one
whose paadapnkaja is vighenswara" - where "vighneshwara" should be
interpreted as (not the famous "ruudHi" meaning Ganapathi),
"vighnaanaam iishwarah" where "iishwarah" means "kartum akartum
anyathhaa kartum cha shaktaH" - one who can make, demolish and alter -
this should refer to His paadapnkaja (that is: paadapankaja which is
capable of removing obstacles).
So the meaning of the complete formation would be "the one whose lotus
feet are capable of removing obstacles" - ie, GaNapati (finally !).
THus we have, vighnEshwarapaadapankajaH = GaNapati. --Then the other
adjectives fall in place.
---Please pardon my transliteration mistakes/inconsistencies--
Hope this makes sense...
however,
sarvaarthha_siddhidasyaasya
vighnahartu.H padastute.H
arthhasiddhir_vighnitEti
chitramEtad vibhaati mE !!
Thanks !
Srikrishnan
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:01:56 +0530
From: Krishnanand Mankikar <kdmanki...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] any sanskrit courses in mumbai ???
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Cc: Sujata Haldipur <hsuj...@hotmail.com>
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Dear Mr. Gopal,
You may please contact Ms.Sujata who conducts sanskrit sourses in Santacruz,
Khar,Bandra areas on behalf of Shri Chitrapur Math, Geervaana Prathisthaa.
Regards
Krishnanand Mankikar
2009/10/5 gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
> jai gurudev
>
>
> dear friends,
>
> this question is out of the subject still i will ask.
>
> any good sanskrit school/courses in mumbai ???
>
> i live in santacruz mumbai.
>
>
> om shakti
>
> gopal
>
>
>
> On 10/5/09, hn bhat <hnbha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I realise now nam?mi must take dative, so I ma not sure now about my
> > explanation.
> > >
> > > Vimala
> > >
> >
> > I could not understand how Vimalaji arrived at such a conclusion that
> > nammami should take dative case?
> >
> > What my friend Ayurveda Narayanan has explained is too basic of grammar
> to
> > require any explanation. It is completely perfect.--
> > Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
> > EFEO,
> > PONDICHERRY
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
> visit
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> >
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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:26:57 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Sanskrit] yamakabhaaratam
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paNDitaaH/
ayam lekhaH hindu itinaamani vartamaanapattre adya upalabhyaH asti/
bhaavadiiyaH
azvamitraH
asmin saptaahne bengaluurau vasan//
--
http://www.hindu.com/br/2009/10/06/stories/2009100650641200.htm
TAMIL
Eminently readable
C.L. RAMAKRISHNAN
YAMAKA BHARATAM: Madhvacharya; Translated by K. Sreepada Rao, Pub. by
Mulupagal Sri Padaraja Swamigal Mutt, Tansi Nagar, Velachery,
Chennai-600042. Rs. 50.
ACHARYA MADVA?S ?Yamaka Bharata? (Sanskrit), which is believed to be a
summary of his ?Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya?, briefly recounts the
epic in 81 slokas.
?Yamaka? is a figure of speech (sabda alamkara) where a letter or a
word is repeatedly used, but with different meanings, in a sloka. This
work is replete with applications of ?Yamaka? and hence the title.
For instance, the words ?manasa? and ?vilayam? occur thrice in the
first and third padas of the 54th sloka. The compositions of a number
of slokas (Slokas 71 and 72, for example) are what may be called a
feat of literary engineering. They reveal the Acharya?s mastery over
the vocabulary and grammar in Sanskrit. This genre of composition,
known as ?citra kavya,? is perhaps a forerunner to the literary style
called ?bahu sadhana kavyas?, where the story-lines of two different
epics could be read into the text by subtly varying its construction.
In this book, Sreepada Rao has given the Sanskrit text, its
transliteration in Tamil, word-split in prose order, and the meaning,
with an index to the slokas. The word-split and the meaning of the
text are simple and straight. Eminently readable and handy, the
publication
should serve to extend the reach of the original work.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:42:40 -0500
From: default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel symbol
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Namaskaram -- Greetings -- Salutations.
Please, a moment to assist this young one in regards to Sandhi. I am
assuming that my question of how to combine the word Manas & the word Shiva
would be a question about Sandhi.
"manas" as mind & "shiva" as the Lord Shiva or the Auspicious (To mean
Shiva Mind or Mind of Shiva) (e.g. like the title:Shiva Manas Puja - but as
a compound word)
Which, if any, of the following is the correct combination of the two
words MANAS & SHIVA (for The mind of Shiva or Shiva Mind)
manaru + shiva = manarushiva
manad + shiva = manadshiva
or
manas + shiva (-s) = manashiva
?
I apologize for the ignorance of my post. I am learning from the book
"Sanskrit: An Appreciation without Apprehension"
as well as the software 'Ganakastadhyayi'. which quotes actions in sandhi
like : " (The Letter 'S' at the end of the word_manas , is replaced with the
letter r[u])"
I assume I am not educated enough to properly phrase my question in the
context of the information that I am given via Ganakastadhyayi. I pray that
one will
yelp me out with this compound/sandhi example so I may reference to it as
an example for use of understanding.
----------------------------------------
I have been studying the 14 Vowels + the Anusvara & Visarga (The 16 Matrkas
/ The 16 Shaktis). Each day, on poster board with a marker, I write out a
list of the vowels with the equivelant english letter/transciption, Phonetic
Pronunciation & The Vowel Sign/Vowel Symbol. Because I am using several
different books to study & learn Sanskrit, I have seen differing examples of
the vowel signs. I would be honored if someone would please clarify
something for me. I do not understand if the Vowel Symbols for (short)A &
(long)AA are the same - a vertical line with a horizontal line on top (like
a capitol T ). Does the short a have the same vowel symbol as the long a
(aa), is there a different one or does the short a (a) not have a symbol &
the long a (aa) have the "T" vowel symbol?
--------------------
I thank you all so very much for your patience & your time with an ignorant
child like myself. I honor divine consciousness & wish to contribute to the
divine online culture as much as possible. I am currently working on typing
out a list of the variety of metres used in the hymns of the Rg Veda &
their defining characteristics of the metres. This was requested of me via a
member of the Panini2008Group & it is the least that I can contribute -
being so new to the heavens of the Sanskrit Language. If this list, which I
am assuming fits into my study/understanding of cchandas vedanga (Anyone
disagree? Why?), is of interest to anyone on this Sanskrit list, please let
me know as I find so much potential in the metres of the vedas / chandas
vedanga & its use in the synthesis of audible / musical expression. i.e. I
would like to know if one could interpret the prosody/metres/cchandas of the
rg veda as a drum beat/guitar tab or something similiar.
------------------Thank you to all who have posted links regarding sanskrit
& the potential for Computer Languages------------------------
I am so lucky to be an ignorant american living in the bible belt of the
midwest who can access this amazing mailing list & learn more about the
sacred tongue of the sanskrit language.
Transfinitely Yours & endless blessings to you all,
dhantra/dan/dna/Danatura/ Madanatura/Tantra Dan/DNA SuprStr/Daniel
--shivaushadhi--
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:23:26 -0700
From: Jonathan Gold <johnnycl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel
symbol
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Short a = ?
Long a = ?
As you can see there is a second vertical line in the long a, the same
line that indicates the long a with any consonant as well:
? as compared with ??
? as compared with ??
and so on, the first in each example being the (implicit) short a, the
second having the vowel marker for the long a.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:42 AM, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaskaram -- Greetings -- Salutations.
>
> Please, a moment to assist this young one in regards to Sandhi. I am
> assuming that my question of how to combine the word Manas & the word Shiva
> would be a question about Sandhi.
>
> "manas" as mind & "shiva"? as the Lord Shiva or the Auspicious?? (To mean
> Shiva Mind or Mind of Shiva) (e.g. like the title:Shiva Manas Puja - but as
> a compound word)
>
> Which, if any, of the following ?? is the correct combination of the two
> words? MANAS & SHIVA (for The mind of Shiva or Shiva Mind)
>
> ?manaru + shiva = manarushiva
> ?manad + shiva = manadshiva
> or
> ?manas + shiva (-s) = manashiva
> ?
>
> I apologize for the ignorance of my post. I am learning from the book
> "Sanskrit: An Appreciation without Apprehension"
> as well as the software 'Ganakastadhyayi'. which quotes actions in sandhi
> like : " (The Letter 'S' at the end of the word_manas , is replaced with the
> letter r[u])"
>
> I assume I am not educated enough to properly phrase my question in the
> context of the information that I am given via Ganakastadhyayi. I pray that
> one will
> yelp me out with this compound/sandhi example so? I may reference to it as
> an example for use of understanding.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> I have been studying the 14 Vowels + the Anusvara & Visarga (The 16 Matrkas
> / The 16 Shaktis). Each day, on poster board with a marker,? I write out a
> list of the vowels with the equivelant english letter/transciption, Phonetic
> Pronunciation & The Vowel Sign/Vowel Symbol. Because I am using several
> different books to study & learn Sanskrit, I have seen differing examples of
> the vowel signs. I would be honored if someone would please clarify
> something for me. I do not understand if the Vowel Symbols for (short)A &
> (long)AA are the same - a vertical line with a horizontal line on top (like
> a capitol T ). Does the short a have the same vowel symbol as the long a
> (aa), is there a different one or does the short a (a) not have a symbol &
> the long a (aa) have the "T" vowel symbol?
>
> --------------------
> I thank you all so very much for your patience & your time with an ignorant
> child like myself. I honor divine consciousness & wish to contribute to the
> divine online culture as much as possible. I am currently working on typing
> out a list of the variety of? metres used in the hymns of the Rg Veda &
> their defining characteristics of the metres. This was requested of me via a
> member of the Panini2008Group &? it is the least that I can contribute -
> being so new to the heavens of the Sanskrit Language. If this list, which I
> am assuming fits into my study/understanding of cchandas vedanga (Anyone
> disagree? Why?), is of interest to anyone on this Sanskrit list, please let
> me know as I find so much potential in the metres of the vedas / chandas
> vedanga & its use in the synthesis of audible / musical expression. i.e. I
> would like to know if one could interpret the prosody/metres/cchandas of the
> rg veda as a drum beat/guitar tab or something similiar.
> ------------------Thank you to all who have posted links regarding sanskrit
> & the potential for Computer Languages------------------------
>
> I am so lucky to be an ignorant american living in the bible belt of the
> midwest who can access this amazing mailing list & learn more about the
> sacred tongue of the sanskrit language.
>
>
> Transfinitely Yours & endless blessings to you all,
> dhantra/dan/dna/Danatura/ Madanatura/Tantra Dan/DNA SuprStr/Daniel
>
> --shivaushadhi--
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:54:44 +0200
From: Ramakrishna Upadrasta <uramakris...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Is it tastulyaM or tattulyaM at the end of
shrI-raama-raameti shloka?
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Cc: venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasa...@yahoo.co.in>
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Namaste Sanskrit List members,
I came across the following mail, about the famous shloka on Lord Shri
raama beginning with shrI-raama-raameeti.
<QUOTE>
I stumbled upon an old manuscript on vishnu sahasranama which states
a correction in the popular sloka
shrIrAma rAma rAmeti rame rAme manorame |
sahasranAma tattulyaM rAma nAma varAnane |
People usually recite the word "tattulyam" which is the union
of "tat + tulyam" which gives out the meaning "that equivalent to".
I don't know why "tat" has been used here.
However, the shuddha pATha of sahasranAma says that
"sahasranAmatah tulyam" ie., sahasranAma-tah-tulyam which gives out
the meaning
tulyam (equivalent) sahasranAmatah (with 1000 names of Lord Vishnu).
Also suggests a correct pATha of this sloka which runs as:
shrIrAma rAma rAmeti rame rAme manorame |
sahasranAmatastulyaM rAma nAma varAnane |
tah+tulyam becomes tastulyam
</QUOTE>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ambaa-l/message/11740
Any comments on the above?
Thanks
Ramakrishna
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:33:05 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel
symbol
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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I think the compound form is mano
Vimala
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Behalf Of Jonathan Gold
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 2:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Your kind assistance please: sandhi & vowel symbol
Short a = ?
Long a = ?
As you can see there is a second vertical line in the long a, the same
line that indicates the long a with any consonant as well:
? as compared with ??
? as compared with ??
and so on, the first in each example being the (implicit) short a, the
second having the vowel marker for the long a.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:42 AM, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaskaram -- Greetings -- Salutations.
>
> Please, a moment to assist this young one in regards to Sandhi. I am
> assuming that my question of how to combine the word Manas & the word Shiva
> would be a question about Sandhi.
>
> "manas" as mind & "shiva" as the Lord Shiva or the Auspicious (To mean
> Shiva Mind or Mind of Shiva) (e.g. like the title:Shiva Manas Puja - but as
> a compound word)
>
> Which, if any, of the following is the correct combination of the two
> words MANAS & SHIVA (for The mind of Shiva or Shiva Mind)
>
> manaru + shiva = manarushiva
> manad + shiva = manadshiva
> or
> manas + shiva (-s) = manashiva
> ?
>
> I apologize for the ignorance of my post. I am learning from the book
> "Sanskrit: An Appreciation without Apprehension"
> as well as the software 'Ganakastadhyayi'. which quotes actions in sandhi
> like : " (The Letter 'S' at the end of the word_manas , is replaced with the
> letter r[u])"
>
> I assume I am not educated enough to properly phrase my question in the
> context of the information that I am given via Ganakastadhyayi. I pray that
> one will
> yelp me out with this compound/sandhi example so I may reference to it as
> an example for use of understanding.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> I have been studying the 14 Vowels + the Anusvara & Visarga (The 16 Matrkas
> / The 16 Shaktis). Each day, on poster board with a marker, I write out a
> list of the vowels with the equivelant english letter/transciption, Phonetic
> Pronunciation & The Vowel Sign/Vowel Symbol. Because I am using several
> different books to study & learn Sanskrit, I have seen differing examples of
> the vowel signs. I would be honored if someone would please clarify
> something for me. I do not understand if the Vowel Symbols for (short)A &
> (long)AA are the same - a vertical line with a horizontal line on top (like
> a capitol T ). Does the short a have the same vowel symbol as the long a
> (aa), is there a different one or does the short a (a) not have a symbol &
> the long a (aa) have the "T" vowel symbol?
>
> --------------------
> I thank you all so very much for your patience & your time with an ignorant
> child like myself. I honor divine consciousness & wish to contribute to the
> divine online culture as much as possible. I am currently working on typing
> out a list of the variety of metres used in the hymns of the Rg Veda &
> their defining characteristics of the metres. This was requested of me via a
> member of the Panini2008Group & it is the least that I can contribute -
> being so new to the heavens of the Sanskrit Language. If this list, which I
> am assuming fits into my study/understanding of cchandas vedanga (Anyone
> disagree? Why?), is of interest to anyone on this Sanskrit list, please let
> me know as I find so much potential in the metres of the vedas / chandas
> vedanga & its use in the synthesis of audible / musical expression. i.e. I
> would like to know if one could interpret the prosody/metres/cchandas of the
> rg veda as a drum beat/guitar tab or something similiar.
> ------------------Thank you to all who have posted links regarding sanskrit
> & the potential for Computer Languages------------------------
>
> I am so lucky to be an ignorant american living in the bible belt of the
> midwest who can access this amazing mailing list & learn more about the
> sacred tongue of the sanskrit language.
>
>
> Transfinitely Yours & endless blessings to you all,
> dhantra/dan/dna/Danatura/ Madanatura/Tantra Dan/DNA SuprStr/Daniel
>
> --shivaushadhi--
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit
> http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
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>
>
--
Jonathan
Berkeley, CA
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