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To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <367975e2121a40ee999c83774afac...@ifpindia.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My dear Kamaleshji, I do not think these tantra-s have been entered in e-text format. You seem to be so ambitious ! Anyway you may try this link: http://www.muktabodha.org/digital_library.htm With the best wishes, Ganesan Dr.T.Ganesan Charg? de Recherches French Institute 11, St. Louis Street PONDICHERRY-605001 INDIA Tel: +91 - 413 - 233 4168 ext. 123 E mail: gane...@ifpindia.org Web: www.ifpindia.org ----- Original Message ----- From: kamalesh pathak To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: [Sanskrit] tantra texts for download in sanskrit only? hello everybody, namaste and jay somanath. i want to download all tantra texts only in sanskrit ( no translation required ) viz. Uddisha Tantra .or Kaatyaayana Tantra . meru tantra . Kali tantra. or Rudrayamal or Brahma yamal or Ravan samhitA etc. can any one please give me relevant link or if anyone members have in their own collection - will please oblige me with copies sending me at --> kamleshsomn...@gmail.com. waiting response from the forum. jay somanath. kamalesh pathak ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091107/ac78f4d8/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:11:33 -0800 From: "Mohan K.V" <kvm.1...@gmail.com> Subject: [Sanskrit] 'The Wonder that is Sanskrit' To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <aebf00a30911070911k4fecbf4bm643410ddae826...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, My Sanskrit teacher found this book, 'The Wonder that is Sanskrit' and gave us some copies of a chapter today. I thought it would be of use to the group. Here's a section that is particularly interesting: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14339015/The-wonder-that-is-Sanskrit (The Amazon page of the full book: http://www.amazon.com/Wonder-that- Sanskrit-Sampad-Vijay/dp/1890206504) The whole section is worth a read, but if you're in a hurry, the last para in page 46 to page 47 is the most amazing part of it all. It is an example from the Padukasahasram that has been spoken about here before (the one with the ya.ya.ya.ya..(ya^32) verse), and solves the Knight's tour<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_tour>problem very nicely, and makes another verse out of it to boot! Mohan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091107/5ff54a4c/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: 7 Nov 2009 18:18:09 -0000 From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate To: <jamb...@uwosh.edu> Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <1257602150.s.10101.34138.f5mail-237-141.rediffmail.com.1257617889.53...@webmail.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Respected Shri Jambunath-ji Sir, Thank you very much for your reply. I am happy because you have actually reproduced the line printed in Devanaagari: ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? People with whom I had discssed this verb, did say that they believed 'jayate' is of the vedic origin but no one could show it to me in print. The editions we, all said 'jayati'. The two editions of the ????????????? which I have seen are some ten years apart(between 1950 and 1960)and were both published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur and they both say 'jayati'. Last year I had spoken to Geeta Press people on phone from Mumbai but they did not come back; I had then sent an email, followed by a reminder after some two months but as it has happened, I have not received their response. Would you, therefore, kindly favour me with the edition year and who the publisher is from where you have extracted the line ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Sorry for the trouble I am giving you. Regards...Shreyas On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:25:50 +0530 wrote >Dear sri Munshi,It occurs in mudakopanihad.munDakopaniShad.h 3.1.6 satyameva jayate nAnR^itam.h satyena panthA vivato devayAnaH ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Regards,?????????On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shreyas P. Munshi wrote:Shri Jambunath-ji and Shri Naresh Cuntoorji Could you help out with the Veda referenc where jayate is used and oblige...Shreyas On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:00:18 +0530 wrote >> Dear members, > > Sri Naresh cuntoor is correct. "Satyameva jayate" is allowed because > it > occurs in veda. I understand that sri panini when such a thing > occurs, says" > iti chandasi" and allows the usage. > > Regards, > Jambunathan _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091107/150c0201/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:27:07 -0800 (PST) From: Vidya R <imarch...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>, jamb...@uwosh.edu Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <205489.79174...@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" namaste! In Samata Books' 'Sri shaankaragrathaavaliH - upaniShadbhAShyANi' (Volume 8, Shankara's complete works - Commentaries on the Upanishads), the verse is provided as: ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ? ????????????????? ??????????? ???? ?????????? ????? ??????? ? ?.?.? ? ??????? -> ????????? ???? -> ???? ??????? -> ???????????????? satyameva jayate nAnRutam satyena panthA vitato devayAnaH | yenAkramantyRuShayo hyAptakAmA yatra tatsatyasya paramam nidhAnam || 3.1.6 || satyameva -> satyavAneva jayate -> jayati nAnRutam -> nAnRutavAdItyarthaH vidyA ________________________________ From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> To: jamb...@uwosh.edu Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 1:18:09 PM Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate Respected Shri Jambunath-ji Sir, Thank you very much for your reply. I am happy because you have actually reproduced the line printed in Devanaagari: ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? People with whom I had discssed this verb, did say that they believed 'jayate' is of the vedic origin but no one could show it to me in print. The editions we, all said 'jayati'. The two editions of the ????????????? which I have seen are some ten years apart(between 1950 and 1960)and were both published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur and they both say 'jayati'. Last year I had spoken to Geeta Press people on phone from Mumbai but they did not come back; I had then sent an email, followed by a reminder after some two months but as it has happened, I have not received their response. Would you, therefore, kindly favour me with the edition year and who the publisher is from where you have extracted the line ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Sorry for the trouble I am giving you. Regards...Shreyas On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:25:50 +0530 wrote >Dear sri Munshi,It occurs in mudakopanihad.munDakopaniShad.h 3.1.6 satyameva jayate nAnR^itam.h satyena panthA vivato devayAnaH ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Regards,?????????On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shreyas P. Munshi wrote:Shri Jambunath-ji and Shri Naresh Cuntoorji Could you help out with the Veda referenc where jayate is used and oblige...Shreyas On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:00:18 +0530 wrote >> Dear members, > > Sri Naresh cuntoor is correct. "Satyameva jayate" is allowed because > it > occurs in veda. I understand that sri panini when such a thing > occurs, says" > iti chandasi" and allows the usage. > > Regards, > Jambunathan _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In Samata Books' 'Sri shaankaragrathaavaliH - upaniShadbhAShyANi' (Volume 8, Shankara's complete works - Commentaries on the Upanishads), the verse is provided as: ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ? ????????????????? ??????????? ???? ?????????? ????? ??????? ? ?.?.? ? ??????? -> ????????? ???? -> ???? ??????? -> ???????????????? satyameva jayate nAnRutam satyena panthA vitato devayAnaH | yenAkramantyRuShayo hyAptakAmA yatra tatsatyasya paramam nidhAnam || 3.1.6 || satyameva -> satyavAneva jayate -> jayati nAnRutam -> nAnRutavAdItyarthaH vidyA ________________________________ From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> To: jamb...@uwosh.edu Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 1:18:09 PM Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate Respected Shri Jambunath-ji Sir, Thank you very much for your reply. I am happy because you have actually reproduced the line printed in Devanaagari: ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? People with whom I had discssed this verb, did say that they believed 'jayate' is of the vedic origin but no one could show it to me in print. The editions we, all said 'jayati'. The two editions of the ????????????? which I have seen are some ten years apart(between 1950 and 1960)and were both published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur and they both say 'jayati'. Last year I had spoken to Geeta Press people on phone from Mumbai but they did not come back; I had then sent an email, followed by a reminder after some two months but as it has happened, I have not received their response. Would you, therefore, kindly favour me with the edition year and who the publisher is from where you have extracted the line ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Sorry for the trouble I am giving you. Regards...Shreyas On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:25:50 +0530 wrote >Dear sri Munshi,It occurs in mudakopanihad.munDakopaniShad.h 3.1.6 satyameva jayate nAnR^itam.h satyena panthA vivato devayAnaH ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Regards,?????????On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shreyas P. Munshi wrote:Shri Jambunath-ji and Shri Naresh Cuntoorji Could you help out with the Veda referenc where jayate is used and oblige...Shreyas On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:00:18 +0530 wrote >> Dear members, > > Sri Naresh cuntoor is correct. "Satyameva jayate" is allowed because > it > occurs in veda. I understand that sri panini when such a thing > occurs, says" > iti chandasi" and allows the usage. > > Regards, > Jambunathan _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091107/8c39511f/attachment-0003.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:25:42 +0530 (IST) From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <peeka...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Sanskrit] mayaaptam raamatvam To: sanskrit digest <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <974337.60359...@web95312.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ???????? ??????? ???-????????????????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????????????????? / ?????? ????????????????????? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? // Sri HNBhat has almost cracked the riddle. Here is my version. I became like Rama like these. janasthaana means a town.Also the area of Dandaka where Rama wandered. I wandered in towns because of my blurred intellect to get the mirage of gold. Rama also had a blurred intellect to get the golden deer. I was saying in every step with tears ?give?. Rama also was similarly crying in every step ?vaidehii? with tears in his eyes. I met enough of unworthy persons. Rama sent arrows in the row of faces of the lord of Lanka i.e.Ravana. But I did not get kushala and vasutaa - happiness and wealth - unlike Rama who got Sita.(Kusha-lava-sutaa). The words having two meanings here are these. 1. janasthaana meaning town and the area of Dandakaranya. 2. kanaka mrigathrishnaa and kanakamriga thrishnaa 3. vai dehi and vaidehi. 4. kritaalam kaabhartuH and kritaa lamkaabhartuH 5. paripaaTiishu ghaTanaa and paripaaTi ishughatanaa 6. kushalavasutaa(meaning sita) and kusala vasutaa Finally ???? ??????? ???????? ??? ??????? ??????: ----------------------------------- P.K. Ramakrishnan http://peekayar.blogspot.com The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091108/cb331b06/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: 8 Nov 2009 07:32:58 -0000 From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate To: <imarch...@yahoo.com> Cc: jamb...@uwosh.edu, sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <1257621900.s.18813.12994.f5mail-237-217.rediffmail.com.1257665578.38...@webmail.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Respected Vidya-ji, Thank you very much for your today's mail which reads as follows: Quote (In Samata Books' 'Sri shaankaragrathaavaliH - upaniShadbhAShyANi'; Volume 8, Shankara's complete works - Commentaries on the Upanishads), the verse is provided as: ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ? ????????????????? ??????????? ???? ?????????? ????? ??????? ? ?.?.? ? Unquote As a favour, will you kindly advise the date of publication of the book you have quoted. Regards...Shreyas On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:55:00 +0530 wrote >namaste!In Samata Books' 'Sri shaankaragrathaavaliH - upaniShadbhAShyANi' >(Volume 8, Shankara's complete works - Commentaries on the Upanishads), the >verse is provided as:??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? >?????????????????? ??????????? ???? ?????????? ????? ??????? ? ?.?.? ???????? >-> ????????????? -> ??????????? -> ????????????????satyameva jayate nAnRutam satyena panthA vitato devayAnaH |yenAkramantyRuShayo hyAptakAmA yatra tatsatyasya paramam nidhAnam || 3.1.6 ||satyameva -> satyavAnevajayate -> jayatinAnRutam -> nAnRutavAdItyarthaHvidyAFrom: Shreyas P. Munshi To: jamb...@uwosh.educc: sansk...@cs.utah.edusent: Sat, November 7, 2009 1:18:09 PMSubject: Re: [Sanskrit] Jayati or Jayate Respected Shri Jambunath-ji Sir, Thank you very much for your reply. I am happy because you have actually reproduced the line printed in Devanaagari: ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? People with whom I had discssed this verb, did say that they believed 'jayate' is of the vedic origin but no one could show it to me in print. The editions we, all said 'jayati'. The two editions of the ????????????? which I have seen are some ten years apart(between 1950 and 1960)and were both published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur and they both say 'jayati'. Last year I had spoken to Geeta Press people on phone from Mumbai but they did not come back; I had then sent an email, followed by a reminder after some two months but as it has happened, I have not received their response. Would you, therefore, kindly favour me with the edition year and who the publisher is from where you have extracted the line ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Sorry for the trouble I am giving you. Regards...Shreyas On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:25:50 +0530 wrote >Dear sri Munshi,It occurs in mudakopanihad.munDakopaniShad.h 3.1.6 satyameva jayate nAnR^itam.h satyena panthA vivato devayAnaH ????????????? ?.?.? ??????? ???? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? Regards,?????????On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shreyas P. Munshi wrote:Shri Jambunath-ji and Shri Naresh Cuntoorji Could you help out with the Veda referenc where jayate is used and oblige...Shreyas On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:00:18 +0530 wrote >> Dear members, > > Sri Naresh cuntoor is correct. "Satyameva jayate" is allowed because > it > occurs in veda. I understand that sri panini when such a thing > occurs, says" > iti chandasi" and allows the usage. > > Regards, > Jambunathan _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 _______________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest, visit http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit and follow instructions. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091108/bde98297/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:45:45 +0530 From: Anand <synet...@mtnl.net.in> Subject: [Sanskrit] Satyameva Jayate To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <000601ca609f$7e159290$0201a...@anand> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Dear Friends , Does the word Satya mean truth here or something more like permanent ? What is the Nirukta of Satya ? If you take it to mean permanent , then a worldly advise is evident as that the one which is more permanent prevails . Thanks in advance. Regards , Anand A. K. Ghurye ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:54:05 +0900 From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 55, Issue 2 jayate or jayati? To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <20091109225405.f4qqwqes4c008...@webmail.utoronto.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Quoting Chandra Sekhar <shekhar4sansk...@gmail.com>: > i have seen some instances where P is used as A. There are a lot of verbs that can go either way in the Mahabharata, according to metrical need, but I'm sure the option is not there for just any verbs, even though I could not tell you which ones show this variation. Phillip back in Pune ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: 9 Nov 2009 18:09:10 -0000 From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] FW: satyameva ..... To: <divyastra2002...@hotmail.com> Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Message-ID: <1257775204.s.5525.9144.f5mail-147-112.rediffmail.com.1257790150.25...@webmail.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Phillip Sir, Thanks for your information via: Quote AnandatIrtha explains the word satyam in the muNDakopanishhad mantra in question as a name of Lord vishhNu. His reading also for the verb is jayati: > ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? > Comment: > ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???????????? ? > ?????? ???????????????????? ???????????? Unquote But Philip Sir,I am now confused once again. Which is correct: jayati or jayate? Is there a linguistic innovation involved? Regards...Shreyas PS: I am trying to collect instances of linguistic innovations in Sanskrit. jayati/jayate attracted my attention from that angle and hence I raised the query. Yesterday Vidya-ji found jayate published in a 1910 edition, although I request her (by this mail) and all you scholars to favour me with instance or instances of jayate used at places other than Mundakopnishad 3.1.6. I have not found any other instance. I have some questions fo certain usages in BhagwadGeeta as well but will deal with them separately. Regards to all..Shreyas On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:30:04 +0530 wrote > > > .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Sir, > AnandatIrtha explains the word satyam in the muNDakopanishhad mantra in > question as a name of Lord vishhNu. His reading also for the verb is jayati: > ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? > Comment: > ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???????????? ? > ?????? ???????????????????? ???????????? > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. > >Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. ____________________________ Shreyas Munshi shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com C202, Mandar Apartments, 120 Ft D P Road, Seven Bungalows, Versova, Mumbai 400 061 Tel Res: (22) 26364290 Mob: 981 981 8197 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/pipermail/sanskrit/attachments/20091109/a74072f4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:40:03 -0500 From: Phillip Hill <divyastra2002...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] FW: satyameva ..... To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <snt110-w36454078e2ab997c9161aed9...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Priya Shreyas, I would say first, that Shankara and Madhva have a different reading for the upanishhad mantra in question. This is certainly not the only example of differing texts between these two Acharyas. Second, I believe we have to allow anomalous word forms to occur at several strata of Sanskrit writings, from the Vedic to the Medieval Kavyas. Vasu's Siddhanta - Kaumudi, vol. 2, p.157 has this to say about ji - dhAtu: ?? ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ? ?? ???????????????? ? ??????????? ? ???? ?? ??? ' to surpass, excel. ' This root ends in a vowel, and appropriately ought to been classed with vowel - ending roots, and not here among consonant ending roots. jaya means to get excellence. This is Intransitive. The root ?? ' tp obtain victory ' is Transitive. Present form ???? ? That is all I can say on the issue. bhavadIya, Bryan Hill Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:09:10 +0000 To: divyastra2002...@hotmail.com From: shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com CC: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] FW: satyameva ..... Phillip Sir, Thanks for your information via: Quote AnandatIrtha explains the word satyam in the muNDakopanishhad mantra in question as a name of Lord vishhNu. His reading also for the verb is jayati: > ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? > Comment: > ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???????????? ? > ?????? ???????????????????? ???????????? Unquote But Philip Sir,I am now confused once again. Which is correct: jayati or jayate? Is there a linguistic innovation involved? Regards...Shreyas PS: I am trying to collect instances of linguistic innovations in Sanskrit. jayati/jayate attracted my attention from that angle and hence I raised the query. Yesterday Vidya-ji found jayate published in a 1910 edition, although I request her (by this mail) and all you scholars to favour me with instance or instances of jayate used at places other than Mundakopnishad 3.1.6. I have not found any other instance. I have some questions fo certain usages in BhagwadGeeta as well but will deal with them separately. Regards to all..Shreyas On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:30:04 +0530 wrote > > > .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Sir, > AnandatIrtha explains the word satyam in the muNDakopanishhad mantra in > question as a name of Lord vishhNu. His reading also for the verb is jayati: > ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? > Comment: > ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???????????? ? > ?????? ???????????????????? ???????????? > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. > >Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. 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