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Today's Topics:
1. Re: specifying language details in the Indian Census form
(Shreyas P. Munshi)
2. sanskrit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4 (Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0))
3. FW: sanskrit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
(Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0))
4. (no subject) (Natarajan S.L.N.)
5. Re: (no subject) (umahise...@comcast.net)
6. Re: (no subject) (Vimala Sarma)
7. Re: prashaMsA (Vidya R)
8. a problem with Shankara.. (Piergiorgio Muzi)
9. Re: a problem with Shankara.. (Gargeshwari Ajit)
10. Re: (no subject) (Krishnamachary)
11. Re: (no subject) (Krishnamachary)
12. reg. Sanskrit in Google Translate tool (K.Srikumar)
13. Re: reg. Sanskrit in Google Translate tool (Krishnan Ramachandran)
14. A nice sanskrit website Navavani (Shobha Saraiya)
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Message: 1
Date: 22 Apr 2010 05:19:55 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] specifying language details in the Indian
Census form
To: <shuklabalra...@gmail.com>
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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When I read the passionate contributions made by the scholarly fraternity on
this site, I realize I am too dim, dull and dumb to say anything bust must
humbly state what our teacher taught us some 65 years ago in school and I think
the validity of his statement does not seem to have changed or diiminshed till
date. He had said that language is just a means for commnication and so a
language is as good or as bad, as rich or as poor, as divine or as satanic as
the person using it. And when we say 'the user', it is his mind, his intellect,
his upbringing, the social set-up he comes from. his philosophical 'world view'
or perhaps his 'need of the hour'.
As a western scholarly linguist and Indologist I have come in contact
with says, if one believes that the first sound was 'AUM' and it came from HIM,
or if one believes in the Biblical declaration that first there was Word, and
the Word was with God, and then the Word was God, the intelligent Indians and
Indologists must accept that all languages are equally 'gIrwANI'. He further
says that there is, necessarily, no direct link between the sound units of
speech and those of any writing system devised to represent them. Sounds are
continuous, ephemeral and broadcast multi-dimensionally in the air; letters of
the alphabet (or their equivalents) are discontinuous, potentially permanent
and represented in two dimensional texts.
This seems to make a perfect case for encouraging spoken Sanskrit as a means of
communication, without attaching any 'ornamental adjectives' like divine etc to
the language. Then maybe after decades (or some generations later) Sanskrit may
become a natural 'mother tongue'of at least some!
Having said all that, I love the language and have joined classes for spoken
Sanskrit. I am 73 young.
Submitted in all humility...Shreyas
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:56:03 +0530 wrote
>samyak charchaa ! VARDDHATAAM DEVA BHAASHAA!!!!
2010/4/20 krishna kaushik
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From: Vidya R
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Sent: Tue, 20 April, 2010 1:40:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] specifying language details in the Indian Census form
???? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ???????? ??????? ?????? ? ???? ?????????
????????? ??? ? ???? ????????? ????? ???? ?????-??????? ?????????? ??? ?????
????????? ??????? ??? ?????? ? ????????????? ???? ???? ?????? ? ????? ?
???????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?
??????? ??? ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ?????????? ????? ??? ????? ?-?????
??????????, ???? sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu ????? ??????????| ???? ?????? ? ?
atra avagamanaM kimarthaM kaThinam? ?mayA sambhAShaNaM kartum shakyate | ?ahaM
saMskRutena chintayAmi api | ?ahaM saMskRtena vadAmi chet katichana-janAnAm
avagamanArthaM mayA etasya sandeshasya anuvAdaH api karaNIyaH | ?parIkShArtham
aham atra anuvadaM na karomi | ?anuvAdaM vinA charchA bhavati chet avagamyate
kati janaiH sambhAShaNaM kartuM shakyate iti| ?atra ekaM laghu gaNanaM kurmaH |?
asmin gaNe ye janAH sambhAShaNaM kartum shaknuvanti kRupayA gaNaM prati
e-patraM preShayantu, athavA sanskrit-ow...@cs.utah.edu prati preShayantu.
?vayaM gaNayAmaH | ?
vidyA
From: Jay Vaidya
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 9:32:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] specifying language details in the Indian Census form
For the purpose of the census, I would probably give a factually accurate
statement regarding the languages I speak at home.
I speak my regional language with my mother and my father. Other Indian
languages that I speak with confidence are Hindi and English.
I am an elementary student of Sanskrit, moving it to a higher rank than the
three languages mentioned above would be merely lying on my part.
It would be different if the census form had a field for "what languages would
you like to speak in addition to your current skills?" In that case I might
consider answering "Sanskrit" within a list of languages.
Dhananjay
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:33:53 -0500
From: "Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)" <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
Subject: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
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ahaM samskrutaviShaye bAlakH asti. vAkyaH prArambe '?' chinhaH kimarthaM
prayojanaM iti. krupayA spastikaraNaH dadAtu. DhanyavAadH. nArAyaN dravid
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:08:40 -0500
From: "Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)" <narayan.v.dra...@nasa.gov>
Subject: [Sanskrit] FW: sanskrit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
To: "sanskrit@cs.utah.edu" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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krupayA change 'vAkyaH' to 'vAkyasya'. DhanyavadaH.
_____________________________________________
From: Dravid, Narayan V. (GRC-DPP0)
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:34 AM
To: 'sanskrit@cs.utah.edu'
Subject: sanskrit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
ahaM samskrutaviShaye bAlakH asti. vAkyaH prArambe '?' chinhaH kimarthaM
prayojanaM iti. krupayA spastikaraNaH dadAtu. DhanyavAadH. nArAyaN dravid
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Natarajan S.L.N." <linganatara...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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Dears,
???????????????? Would you please let me know the meaning of the
word?"????????"
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:45:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: umahise...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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praise,
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From: "Natarajan S.L.N." <linganatara...@yahoo.com>
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:56:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
Dears,
???????????????? Would you please let me know the meaning of the
word?"????????"
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:14:00 +1000
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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MW gives
???- ? ??? [p= 695
<http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/monier/serveimg.pl?file=/scans/MWScan/MWScanjpg/mw0695-prazaMsita.jpg>
,1] [L=137491]
P. -??????? , to become calm or tranquil , be pacified or soothed , settle down
(as dust) Mn.
<javascript:winls(%22mwauth_SktDevaUnicode.html%22,%22record_Mn_%22)> MBh.
<javascript:winls(%22mwauth_SktDevaUnicode.html%22,%22record_MBh_%22)> &c ;
to be allayed or extinguished , cease , disappear , fade away ib. : Caus.
-????? (rarely ?????) , to appease , calm quench allay , extinguish , terminate
ib. ;
to make subject , subdue , conquer MBh.
<javascript:winls(%22mwauth_SktDevaUnicode.html%22,%22record_MBh_%22)>
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of umahise...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, 25 April 2010 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
praise,
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To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:56:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
Dears,
Would you please let me know the meaning of the word
"????????"
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:00:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vidya R <imarch...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] prashaMsA
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Cologne
1 prazaMsA f. praise , commendation , fame , glory (with Buddhists one of the 8
worldly conditions Dharmas. 61) S3Br. &c. &c. (cf. %{aprastuta-p-} , %{strI-p-}
; w.r. %{-zaMzA}) ; %{-nAman} n. an expression of praise Nir. ; %{mukhara} mfn.
loud with praise , praising loudly (%{-rA7nana} , mfn. `" one whose mouth is
l?loud w?with pr?praise "' , speaking loudly in praise of anything) Ra1jat. ;
%{--lApa} (%{-sA7l-}) m. applause , acclamation Das3. ; %{-vacana} n. pl. a
laudatory speech MBh. ; %{--vali} (%{-sA7v-}) f. a poem of praise , panegyric
Ba1lar. ; %{-zaMso7pamA} f. (in rhet.) laudatory comparison , comparing to
anything superior Ka1vya7d. [695,1]
Gerard Huet
??????? prasam [practice - Sams ] v. [1] pr. ( pra?a?sati ) pp. ( pra?asta )
proclaim, celebrate, praise, exhales.
na prasam blame.
??????? pra?a?s? [prasam ] f. praise, eulogy | fame, glory.
In Sri Vimala's extract, the words listed are 'shAmyati' and 'shamayati', and
not 'prashaMsA'
Sri Nataraja's original question was regarding 'prashaMsAm' - that is the
dvitIyAvibhaktiH of the AkArAnta-strIli~Gga-prashaMsA shabdaH
________________________________
From: Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com>
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 10:14:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
MW gives
???- ? ???[p= 695,1] [L=137491] P. -??????? , to become calm or tranquil , be
pacified or soothed , settle down (as dust) Mn. MBh. &c ;
to be allayed or extinguished , cease , disappear , fade away ib. : Caus.
-????? (rarely ?????) , to appease , calm quench allay , extinguish , terminate
ib. ;
to make subject , subdue , conquer MBh.
Vimala
From:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of umahise...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, 25 April 2010 6:45 AM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
praise,
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To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:56:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
Dears,
Would you please let me know the meaning of the word "????????"
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:22:02 +0800
From: "Piergiorgio Muzi" <glob...@comm2000.it>
Subject: [Sanskrit] a problem with Shankara..
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Dear Scholars, please, help me to find the right translation and interpretation
of the following passage from Upadeshas?hasri of Shankara, Padyabandha 17,
?loka 19. I can't understand the reference of ayam (I suppose that it is not
?tma (like in some translations I have), since ?tma is not in the near context,
but the following k?mas or kratus. bhedam must refers to previous usage
referring to split knowledge in the common-sense cognitive processes
conditioned by up?dhi-s.
????? ???????????? ??????? ?????????????
?????????????????????????? ???? ????????????????
Thanks, namaste,
Piergiorgio Muzi
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:09:54 +0530 (IST)
From: Gargeshwari Ajit <ajitga_...@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] a problem with Shankara..
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This question i think was answered in the Advaita-L Mailing list. Not very sure.
Ajit A Gargeshwari ? "Truth is?ONE without a second"
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From: Piergiorgio Muzi <glob...@comm2000.it>
Subject: [Sanskrit] a problem with Shankara..
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 8:52 AM
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Dear Scholars, please, help me to find the right
translation and interpretation of the following passage from Upadeshas?hasri of
Shankara, Padyabandha 17, ?loka 19. I can't understand the reference of ayam (I
suppose that it is not ?tma (like in some translations I have), since ?tma is
not in the near context, but the following k?mas or kratus. bhedam must refers
to previous usage referring to split knowledge in the common-sense cognitive
processes conditioned by up?dhi-s.
????? ???????????? ??????? ?????????????
?????????????????????????? ???? ????????????????
Thanks, namaste,
Piergiorgio Muzi
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Krishnamachary <vedantham_kris...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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prasanga vashath sthuthi ithi prashamsa.?
Mr.V.Krishnamachary
Retired Civil Engineer
U 51 6th Main Road
Annanagar
CHENNAI-600 040
Phone: 44-26215105
Camp: 338 Sterling Circle
??? ??? ??? CARY, IL 60013 USA
Email: vedantham_kris...@yahoo.com
Phone: 847-639-2016
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 3:45 PM
#yiv515643836 p {margin:0;}
praise,
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From: "Natarajan S.L.N." <linganatara...@yahoo.com>
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:56:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
Dears,
???????????????? Would you please let me know the meaning of the
word?"????????"
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Krishnamachary <vedantham_kris...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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Prkarshena shamsathi prashamsa.ie exceedigly praise
Mr.V.Krishnamachary
Retired Civil Engineer
U 51 6th Main Road
Annanagar
CHENNAI-600 040
Phone: 44-26215105
Camp: 338 Sterling Circle
??? ??? ??? CARY, IL 60013 USA
Email: vedantham_kris...@yahoo.com
Phone: 847-639-2016
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
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Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 11:39 AM
prasanga vashath sthuthi ithi prashamsa.?
Mr.V.Krishnamachary
Retired Civil Engineer
U 51 6th Main Road
Annanagar
CHENNAI-600 040
Phone: 44-26215105
Camp: 338 Sterling Circle
??? ??? ??? CARY, IL 60013 USA
Email: vedantham_kris...@yahoo.com
Phone: 847-639-2016
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From: umahise...@comcast.net <umahise...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 3:45 PM
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praise,
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To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:56:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Sanskrit] (no subject)
Dears,
???????????????? Would you please let me know the meaning of the
word?"????????"
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:53:36 +0530
From: "K.Srikumar" <phy...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] reg. Sanskrit in Google Translate tool
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Hi All,
Seeing great activity in our forum, keep up the good work, friends!!!
Just this idea struck me..... why cant we volunteer to make the Sanskrit
language available in Google Translate tool (or in any Google service for
that matter)
This translate tool is a great place to learn languages...
what do you think?
Please let me know your views.
by(e)
K . S r i k u m a r
"......even this shall pass!"
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:48:16 +0530
From: Krishnan Ramachandran <krissree2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] reg. Sanskrit in Google Translate tool
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Dear Sri Sukumar,
Its a great idea to incorporate Sanskrit language in Google translation
features. It will be of great and it will be of immense help to promote the
language world wide. It should percolate first among our people who care for
it and once it is done. It will take wings.
with regards
krishnan
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shobha Saraiya <shobhy...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] A nice sanskrit website Navavani
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Namste all,
While surfing the web came upon the website below.
It has so many wonderful sanskrit information. and
live news of india in Sanskrit? among other wonderul things.
it is just wonderful.
http://www.navavani.org/index.php
Hari Om
shobha
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