Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Ivan Kanis
June, 09 at 19:50 Glenn wrote: (It would have been helpful to have the start of this discussion referenced: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-06/msg00236.html ) Sorry I didn't. I was following Eli's suggestion. Maybe Ivan was doing an anonymous checkout? I don't think so.

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Glenn Morris
Ivan Kanis wrote: Sorry I didn't. I was following Eli's suggestion. I did suggest only doing that next time. There's not much point moving a conversation that's already in progress. Anyway, let's carry on now. I think that is the problem. My desktop is somewhat slow compared to modern

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Glenn Morris
PS Karl, should I write down somewhere what I think I understand about how this is set up on Savannah? There's a wiki somewhere?

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Ivan Kanis
June, 10 at 3:11 Glenn wrote: Could you tell us what actually happens? I get the timeout error. How long does the bzr process run for? The process bzr does not end, ie. I do not get my prompt back. Is it doing anything when it dies, or has it been idle for 5 mins? After 40 minutes, the

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Karl Berry
We can in principle increase the 300s timeout by passing --client-timeout=ARG to bzr serve in /usr/local/bin/sv_membersh, I think we should (to, say, an hour), regardless of whether that helps Ivan or not, because all experience is that networks fail in unpredictable and unknowable ways.

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Karl Berry
PS Karl, should I write down somewhere what I think I understand about how this is set up on Savannah? Yes please. For now, can you just post it here as an email message and I will endeavor to save it for later updating? There's a wiki somewhere? The wiki is frozen right now.

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Karl Berry
5 hours isn't enough? Ok, I changed the timeout I know about to 10. I don't think you needed to change that. I think you're right :). I switched it back to 5 hours. Thanks, k

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Glenn Morris
Karl Berry wrote: We can in principle increase the 300s timeout by passing --client-timeout=ARG to bzr serve in /usr/local/bin/sv_membersh, I think we should (to, say, an hour), regardless of whether that helps Ivan or not, because all experience is that networks fail in

Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] what's the matter with the bzr server?

2013-06-10 Thread Glenn Morris
Karl Berry wrote: Agreed. Let's try removing it and see if there is some immediate failure report? Ah, the scientific method. :) Done.