Could you tell me what job libcroco does?
(I don't have real net access here.)
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While Open Source as defined by it's founders means
Free Software, it's frequently misunderstood.
This is not entirely true; the official category of Open Source
software is close to the category of Free Software, but not identical.
The two definitions are written very differently.
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I think we don't want savannah to be used as a mere mirror for non-GNU
packages. But he wants to make it more than a mirror, so I think
it is good.
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A year ago we had the idea that each GNU package could have
its own host name, XXX.gnu.org.
1. Has any work been done to implement this?
2. Is there any difficulty in implementing this?
3. Does anyone see a reason why we should not do this?
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The script that sends mail to report installation of changes is broken
and has been broken ever since it was installed. It does not
understand multiple branches. When people looked at fixing this, to
make the script find the change for the appropriate branch, they gave
up because it was too hard.
I still don't know why PROJECT.gnu.org is a good idea, though.
I think the advantage is that it would provide a much shorter URL
for each GNU package. Also, I think sourceforge does this,
and some developers wished that savannah would do it too.
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I recently rewrote a lot of the text in the savannah.el functions.
Much of it was not correct English.
Since this is an important part of how we talk to the public, please
make sure that all changes to that file are checked by native speakers
of English who are good writers.
Thanks for writing this.
Savannah people, please test it, and if it seems to work,
please put it into use for Emacs so we can see if it really works.
If it does, please then add `-r ""' to the script that runs
it, and let's see if that feature works.
What we ultimately want to do is use it twice
The script on Savannah is now supposedly capable of reporting properly
the branch in which a change was committed, and finding the proper
two versions to compare. We need to test this.
Would you please commit some change in the Unicode branch as a test?
How about adding a comment saying "This is
Please see the last message in this digest. It may indicate
a bug in the modified log_accum.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:55:35 -0400
Send Emacs-diffs mai
Ignacio Garcia wrote:
At last we are now in the process of joining the gnu task-list project at
savannah.
What is the task list project on Savannah? How does that relate
to the file tasks.texi?
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Something like the following in /cvsroot/emacs/CVSROOT/loginfo I suppose:
^emacs /usr/local/bin/log_accum -r "" -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
PROTECTED] -s %{sVv}
^emacs /usr/local/bin/log_accum -r RC -T emacs -C -m [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s %{sVv}
Yes. More precisely, I sug
This message was sent by log_accum for a commit
in the emacs-unicode branch. That is visible in the subject.
However, the version numbers 1.186 and 1.187 are trunk versions. It
looks like the code to find the latest two versions is not making
proper use of the branch.
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21
At that point we will reach a conclusion on how
to move forward, and whether "Alexandria" will be a seperate package
(hence GNU Alexandria, as originally proposed) or simply a set of
services that will be distributed as part of GNU Bayonne directly.
If you decide to make it a sep
Your message was very hostile in tone. I don't know what happened
before, and I don't know who (if anyone) is at fault; but even if he
was at fault, it is not a good idea for us to be so harsh.
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About a year ago, Federico Heinz registered a non-GNU package on
Savannah called PAPO, and he checked off that he wanted to make it a
GNU package. But he never heard back from you about that.
Could you please follow up on that now?
Also, can you check and see which other non-GNU packages wanted
> Also, can you check and see which other non-GNU packages wanted to be
> GNU packages and got overlooked in this way?
To the best of my knowledge: that is not possible.
If it happened once, that seems to be proof it is possible.
We should not assume this was the only time.
Can som
In fact, we can browse each mail sent to the archives for a
registration. But it can take years.
Can't you use grep to find all the registrations that asked
to make something a GNU package? You can make a list
of the package names, and intersect that list with the list of
current non-GNU
I'll try to do that this week (downloading every mail archives in mbox
gzipped).
Thanks. Please report back to me on the results after it is done.
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Because your original project has been set to private I couldn't find
it through the search on the website. I didn't think about private
projects. Sorry about that.
This sounds like a bug. Your method of seaching for projects
should be one that considers private projects too.
_
Just a message to tell you that I did not already found time to do
it. As I'll be in Metz tomorrow, I'm not going to work on it tomorrow
but Sunday.
Ok. Please report when it's done.
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It will
likely help that FSF now appears to endorse free Java use (we were using
Blackdown anyway as an intermediate step so, assuming it is OK for the
final software package, this could speed things up quite a bit).
We do endorse using Java as long as the code will run on a free
> We have two of them: standards.texi and maintain.texi. They should
> have been sent to you--were they?
No, I didn't get either of those manuals, but you did send me a copy of
the manual on Texinfo itself.
This is strange. new-gnu should have sent them to you when I dubbed
GNU
Is there anyone in FSF/gnu who could give me some idea what "Sun only"
features are included in/tied into Blackdown. I presume you are thinking
of imported libraries or something which we don't actually need.
I'm talking about the standard Sun Java libraries. We have free equivalen
OK, thanks. We weren't intending to get involved in any Sun libraries.
I have a feeling we are failing to communicate. What do you mean by
"get involved in"? What I'm talking about is simply using the
libraries. Most Java programs use some of the "standard Java
libraries". Does GNU Speech
No. That's what I meant by my comment.
Interesting. I didn't realize it was possible to completely avoid
using the standard libraries, but if you have completely avoided them,
there is no problem.
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Just a message to tell you that I did not already found time to do
it. As I'll be in Metz tomorrow, I'm not going to work on it tomorrow
but Sunday.
It's been a week since then--any progress?
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No, I'm waiting for a reply for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to know with url is
always working for raw access to the mailing list archives.
Please send mail again. They should not take a week to do an easy
job like this for you.
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Someone told me:
AFAIK, there are already daily snapshots of GNU Mach, MiG, Hurd, and
other GNU tools at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/cvs/. Perhaps Emacs could go
there as well (well, it seems reasonable to me).
Can you arrange to make daily snapshots of Emacs like those other packages?
> > AFAIK, there are already daily snapshots of GNU Mach, MiG, Hurd, and
> > other GNU tools at ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/cvs/. Perhaps Emacs could go
> > there as well (well, it seems reasonable to me).
> >
> > Can you arrange to make daily snapshots of Emacs like
I still don't know how I can provide external access though
(alpha.gnu.org used to be suitable for this kind of thing, as it used a
directory on fencepost, but I have no idea where it is these days, or
how to get write access to it).
It is probably the directory ~ftp on fencepost.
It is a documentation project that wants to translate a manual to
spanish.
The original manual is under the Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike license.
We should have criteria for documentation licenses on Savannah
just as we have criteria for software licenses.
I think we sh
> We should have criteria for documentation licenses on Savannah
> just as we have criteria for software licenses.
> I think we should call for documentation licenses to be compatible
> with the GFDL or the GPL.
Am I correct if I say the GNU hasn't got a list like that yet?
I
We started using the new log_accum script a couple of months ago, and
it worked. I observed that commits to a branch started to show the
name of the branch and the correct version numbers, and the diffs were
correct too. I've seen this many times.
I have not been checking recently, though; did t
When I try logging in with lsh -G subversions.gnu.org
I find that it just closes the connection with no error message.
As a result I cannot check in changes in Emacs.
Would you please look at the problem and tell me when it is fixed?
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There is no fixed list.
There is a criteria: the compatibility with the GPL.
To help users, we propose a list of well known GPL-compatible licenses to them.
They know, by picking these licenses, that their software is GPL-compatible. But
they can come up with another license, w
If we are about to backports stuff from sid, let's run RedHat. They provide
recent package tested.
We use Debian because Debian cares more about freedom than other
distro makers. So we will not consider switching to any other port
unless it cares more about freedom than Debian does.
We m
Yesterday, lsh to subversions just returned with no error message.
Today it has changed: it says that the host key has changed.
Can someone send me what I should put in my .lsh directory
to make things start working?
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# -r BRANCH - operate only on changes in branch TAG
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Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can you determine which change made the dead keys stop working?
my CVS commands claim that the RSA key of subversions.gnu.org has
changed which may be due to a man in the middle att
I think it is still desirable for crypto software to be
developed and published outside the US.
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Sorry, I do not have the time to do it and follow it up. One of the
emacs admins has to make that mailinglist and update the loginfo file
in the CVSROOT file.
I am an emacs project admin, but I don't know where to find that file.
I don't see any such file in my checkout of Emacs. Whe
> I think it is still desirable for crypto software to be
> developed and published outside the US.
This is not so helpful for those of us in the US. To solve the
situation, when I put crypto into the project, I will stop
distributing tar balls through savannah.
The issue is
So we cannot host crypto software at Savannah?
There are other free software hosting sites, in Europe, right?
It would be better if crypto software were hosted there.
Do we have relationships with them?
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The US no longer says export of free crypto software requires a
specific license, but does claim to impose legal restrictions on further
redistribution of the software. So it is still preferable for crypto
software not to come from or through the US.
_
I believe Loic was trying to arrange for a server in Europe,
that would cooperate with Savannah. Loic, how do matters stand?
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#1 appears to be due to the removal of the immediate replication of
changes. Why did we remove that instead of fixing it?
#2 appears to be a separate problem--please investigate it.
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When I do
cvs update ChangeLog
in emacs/lisp, it hangs for minutes. (I eventually killed it.)
Does that mean something is wedged on Savannah?
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Since the file is so big (>800kB), it may take a lot of time if you
use a slow internet connection - CVS will probably request the latest
version of 'ChangeLog' so as to check whether local one is modified.
The problem went away, but I don't think it was due to the line speed.
I think
Something has gone wrong with the script that mails diffs
to this list. It was supposed to be set up to mail only
changes in the trunk, but these changes are in a branch.
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To: emacs-dif
Please add "A free client for Google Earth" to the list of suggested
projects. Then please ack this message.
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Is there a free software simulator for IBM 360 assembler
(including the I/O interfaces that 360 assembler programs use)?
If not, could you please add that to the task list?
Please ack when this is dealt with one way or the other.
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[I sent this message a few weeks ago but did not get a response.]
Please add "A free client for Google Earth" to the list of suggested
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Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> emacs-diffs received this message
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:33:20 +
> From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
There have been several empty messages on emacs-diffs lately.
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:47:35 +
> From: Jan Dj?rv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Emacs-diffs] (no subject)
> To: emacs-diffs@gnu.org
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> CVSROOT: /cvsroot/emacs
> Module name
Here's another example of the bug. It looks like message 9 is
spurious and was caused by the same update that also produced message
10.
Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:40:31 +
From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Emacs-diffs] (no subject)
To: emacs-diffs@gnu.org
Message-ID
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From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:30:21 -0400
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2006 15:36:50 -0400")
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On 7/21/06, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What did you check in at this time? There is no other check-in recorded
> in emacs-diffs, so I
I am not able to reproduce the problem. I copied the emacs repository
in a test project and issued commits - it works as expected.
It only happens some of the time, as the emacs-diffs output shows.
It seems to be unreproducible.
Can you gather more information next time it happens? Su
> I suspect that this is due to some sort of change that was made
> a few days ago. What change was made?
No change was made until yesterday.
Something must have changed a few days ago, because this problem never
happened before. If there was no change in log_accum, perhaps it was
i
Do you know what CVS action might have caused
this peculiar message?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:05:57 +
From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Emacs-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/ChangeLog,v
To: emacs-diffs@gnu.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CVSROOT:/sources/emacs
Modu
The problem has not occurred for the past week, so I tend to think
you have fixed it.
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I don't suppose we might have been so lucky that you had the
log_accum.pl debug log enabled during the period in question?
If it will be useful, please enable this debugging log info starting now,
for the future.
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Thanks for fixing it.
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This message represents a bug in the software generating the
emacs-diffs list. I checked in a one-line change in this file, and
this is all we got. The version numbers listed appear to be correct.
All that is wrong is the contents of the diff.
My change was just indentation; is diff being run wi
Yes, diff is run that way:
> diff -u -b -r1.554 -r1.555
-b is a synonym for --ignore-space-change.
I see. Thanks.
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The emacs-diffs mailing list needs a change.
It needs to show changes in the EMACS_22_BASE branch
(which may get renamed to EMACS_22_RC)
as well as changes in the trunk.
We should have given you warning about this,
but we did it abruptly. We would like a fix for this
as soon as possible.
Thanks for fixing it.
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That doesnt seems to be a good idea. We cannot incorporate anonymous
significant patches to our packages. I think would be a good idea to
set the default to registered users.
I agree.
There's a difference between anonymous and non-registered :)
What is that difference?
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Subject: Re: upgrading GNU packages to GPLv3
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:49 +0200
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Thanks for getting this done quickly!
(We should have thought of asking for this a month ago.)
When I look at the Emacs package page, under "Development tools",
it lists the Arch repository first.
That is misleading, because the principal repository is in CVS.
This message shows that developers are actually being misled.
Can you please arrange to put the CVS repository first?
What causes
I'm told that we once provided access to CVS thru port 443,
but no longer. Some people say this makes it hard for them
to access savannah. Can we reenable that?
When I connect to savannah.gnu.org with a browser and enter "emacs" in
the search box, the first package it finds is not Emacs. I think that
is a bug.
Matches of the specified string in package names should come first,
and the shortest matches should come first among the matches.
That way, if you
People who can't access the CVS ports because of firewall outgoing
traffic restrictions need to talk with their sysadmins about the
uselessness of such restriction, and the constraints it imposes on
us.
I am sure they have tried to do so. Maybe some succeed in convincing
their sys
http://savannah.gnu.org/register/ says
FSF/GNU projects
Internal projects of the FSF and projects that have been
approved by the coordinator of the GNU project, Richard
Stallman.
Please change that to
FSF/GNU projects
Internal projects of the FSF and projects
The have enabled 443 as an alternative to 22. Port 22 is used only by
project members with commit access. It does not really help people
like me (involved in the emacs project but not part of the core).
Maybe we need to make pserver available on port 443 on some IP.
Savannah people, is
[I sent this message a week ago but did not get a response.
Could we get the discussion moving again?]
People who can't access the CVS ports because of firewall outgoing
traffic restrictions need to talk with their sysadmins about the
uselessness of such restriction, and the constraint
Ok, I will in the future ask users who report access trouble to
contact you.
In my current work
place, we use CVS internally. Maybe, that is the reason for preventing
the that port for external access. From what little I know, a version
control system is another form of easy means to deposit data
(versioned). May be, there exists a paranoid feaar that so
> Please try asking your sysadmins and tell us what they say.
> We need to know!
Most likely the firewall doesn't block 2401 specifically, instead it only
lets through a few specific ports such as 80 and 443 and blocks
everything else.
You may be right, but we still need to kn
Sure, I will do that. I have started asking them and the response I
get is (in India) "Policies set by the parent company/HQ and has been
handed down to us". I have not yet got a straight to the point answer
yet! The other common answer is, "The firewall is not in our
administra
We think it's a good thing to improve, so it will be done, and you'll
be notified.
However now is not a good time to add features, because we're in a
bugfix phase after a recent code cleanup (to modern PHP & security
standards), and we current have both the old and new version
[I sent this message a few weeks ago but did not get a response.]
Are you working on this?
When I connect to savannah.gnu.org with a browser and enter "emacs" in
the search box, the first package it finds is not Emacs. I think that
is a bug.
Matches of the specified string in package names sh
[I sent this message a few weeks ago but did not get a response.
Could we get the discussion moving again?]
We think it's a good thing to improve, so it will be done, and you'll
be notified.
However now is not a good time to add features, because we're in a
bugfix phase after a re
[I sent this message twice but did not get a response.]
Are you working on this?
When I connect to savannah.gnu.org with a browser and enter "emacs" in
the search box, the first package it finds is not Emacs. I think that
is a bug.
Matches of the specified string in package names should come
Currently the search result order is directly provided by MySQL. After
giving it a look a few weeks ago I concluded this would require to
actually implement the search post-processing (and not just modifying
something that exists) (sorry for not answering at that time).
How about a
[I sent this message a week ago but did not get a response.
Please respond!]
[This is a resend to set up the reminder correctly.
Please respond to this message instead of the copy I sent yesterday.]
We think it's a good thing to improve, so it will be done, and you'll
be notified.
Ho
Indeed they are two separate issues. I could not tell from the
message which one it was about.
Matches of the specified string in package names should come first,
and the shortest matches should come first among the matches.
That way, if you enter the exact name of a package, that pac
[I sent this message three times but did not get a response.]
We think it's a good thing to improve, so it will be done, and you'll
be notified.
However now is not a good time to add features, because we're in a
bugfix phase after a recent code cleanup (to modern PHP & security
[I sent this message two weeks ago but did not get a response.]
Indeed they are two separate issues. I could not tell from the
message which one it was about.
Matches of the specified string in package names should come first,
and the shortest matches should come first among the matches.
I'll reply to this message when I do.
Unfortunately, you replied prematurely and canceled the reminder.
Please delete the other message, and reply to THIS message
when you have looked at the issue:
Matches of the specified string in package names should come first,
and the shortest
I rely on the mail reminder system to keep track of what things have been
done and what things have not been.
When I send a message asking you to reply when a certain job is done,
that means I have set a reminder. Please do NOT reply to the message
before the time I said. If you do, you will can
In this case, if I don't reply, maybe you'll believe I didn't read
your mail.
Not this time, because I asked you please to reply when you have the
answer. I explicitly said I did not expect a reply until then.
If you don't expect a reply immediately, I think the system should not
Nobody is handling cvs-hackers any more. Do we recommend the use of
that list anywhere (on gnu.org or savannah)? If not, should we delete
it? Make it automatically say to write to savannah-hackers?
Make it forward to savannah-hackers?
Please DTRT about this report.
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Can someone check for other possible bugs of a similar kind?
These Savannah-related XSS bugs were fixed yesterday. (Emanuele
alerted other persons about it - #gnu, savannah mailing list).
Thank you, and thanks Emanuele.
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