Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-12 Thread Ian Kelling


Yavor Doganov  writes:

> Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
>> Yavor Doganov  написал(а):
>> > How do you know it is the latest version?
>> 
>> The version is written in the first line in the page HTML source.
>
> Ah, right.  It says v2.6.19+ while the one on the Debian list is
> v2.6.19 (without the plus).  So perhaps there are some local
> modifications on top of the gnu.org version.  The HTML markup also
> looks different.

We are aware of it and planning to fix it. It is just missing the tag as
you mention. Hopefully I will get to it this week.

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Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-12 Thread Yavor Doganov
Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> Yavor Doganov  написал(а):
> > How do you know it is the latest version?
> 
> The version is written in the first line in the page HTML source.

Ah, right.  It says v2.6.19+ while the one on the Debian list is
v2.6.19 (without the plus).  So perhaps there are some local
modifications on top of the gnu.org version.  The HTML markup also
looks different.



Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-12 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
Yavor Doganov  написал(а):
> Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> > The page you linked was generated using the latest version of 
> > https://www.mhonarc.org/ .
> 
> How do you know it is the latest version?

The version is written in the first line in the page HTML source.



Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-12 Thread Yavor Doganov
Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> The page you linked was generated using the latest version of 
> https://www.mhonarc.org/ .

How do you know it is the latest version?  IME, GNU servers seldom run
latest versions of anything.

> Yet, another page using the same software
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-russian/2019/11/threads.html
> also has non-ascii symbols, and they show correctly.

This could be due to a newer MHonArc version or a proper setup as you
say.  Or the Subject: header may be encoded in KOI8-R.



Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-11 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
Hi Yavor

Yavor Doganov  написал(а):
> Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> > There is no encoding specified at this page. I think adding  > charset="utf-8" /> would resolve this.
> 
> Yes, I guess it's something trivial as that.  But the Subject: header
> may be in a different encoding; that's perfectly valid.  The software
> that is generating the web page should take care of this.

The page you linked was generated using the latest version of 
https://www.mhonarc.org/ . Yet, another page using the same software
https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-russian/2019/11/threads.html
also has non-ascii symbols, and they show correctly.
Perhaps it is worthwhile asking if they can offer any suggestions 
of how to edit the configuration to make it work correctly.

> > As a separate issue, do you see these subject lines as question
> > marks in the moderation queue notifications in your inbox?
> 
> Sometimes.  I don't recall if it happened with gnu.org lists or some
> other lists that I moderate.

This part belongs to mailman, I think. I will do more testing to see how
to reproduce it and get back to you to see if you experience the same
issue in moderated lists.

Best regards,
Svetlana

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Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-10 Thread Yavor Doganov
Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
> There is no encoding specified at this page. I think adding  charset="utf-8" /> would resolve this.

Yes, I guess it's something trivial as that.  But the Subject: header
may be in a different encoding; that's perfectly valid.  The software
that is generating the web page should take care of this.

> As a separate issue, do you see these subject lines as question
> marks in the moderation queue notifications in your inbox?

Sometimes.  I don't recall if it happened with gnu.org lists or some
other lists that I moderate.



Re: Non-ASCII subjects garbled in thread view of the mail archives

2019-11-09 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
There is no encoding specified at this page. I think adding   would resolve this. (In Firefox, View > Page encoding > 
UTF-8 makes it show up correctly.)

As a separate issue, do you see these subject lines as question marks in the 
moderation queue notifications in your inbox?