[Savannah-register-public] Re: [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

2010-09-27 Thread Paul Jakma

Hi,

I'll try get to this - I'll probably be a little busy this week and 
next. If you want to proceed with it, that'd be great. I'm confident 
I and others will fix the issues soon. Setting up the Savannah 
project will allow me to get other maintainers involved on this.


The one issue we were thinking to not fix though is putting the 
full-sized GPL headers into /all/ the files. There are certain files 
where this is overkill and not warranted (e.g. because unlicensed 
copying of just that file will never ever be something that would 
bother us), e.g. the NEWS and TODO files. We're thinking instead to 
add a short, one-liner to remind the reader the file is available for 
distribution under the terms in the accompanying COPYING file.


Thanks,

Paul

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010, Alex Fernandez wrote:



Follow-up Comment #5, task #10496 (project administration):

Hi Paul,

Since this submission has been stalled for so long because of the admission
process I would like to move it forward. Would you like me to approve it so
you can work on the outstanding issues inside Savannah? I can always keep the
task open so you let us know when you are ready for a final review.

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[Savannah-register-public] Re: [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

2010-09-13 Thread Paul Jakma

On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Alex Fernandez wrote:


Hi Paul,

Sorry for the delay; there is a bit of a backlog after the summer 
Holidays. I am reviewing your submission on behalf of Savannah, and 
there are a few issues with it:


* You speak about Linux, but we prefer that you use GNU/Linux: 
it gives credit to the GNU project besides the Linux kernel. Read 
the Hosting requirements 
https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php for more 
details.


Oops, yes.

* Some documentation files (NEWS, README, Changelog...) lack the 
required GPL header.


The ChangeLog file is deprecated iirc. We'll remove it. For stuff 
like a README file, I'm not eniterly sure it makes sense to add a GPL 
header - it would detract from the immediacy of the content. Further, 
I do not anticipate ever caring about copyright infringement on such 
files, and anyway it should already be clear from the COPYING file 
that these are GPLed (the header is added to more important files, 
like C source, just to ensure readers can't miss the fact).


* There are a few PNG files in there, but it's not clear where they 
come from. The best solution is usually to state in the README or 
some similar file the license for each one.


You're probably looking at a 'make dist' tarball, and the PNGs come 
from the 'Dia' files in the same directory, I think.



Please upload a new tarball with these issues solved, and let us know when
it's ready for a new review, OK?


Ok, that will take a week or so - am on holidays. ;)

Finally, you say that Quagga is a fork of GNU Zebra; while forks 
are sometimes necessary (and GNU Zebra seems to have stopped 
development in 2005), it might be better to help the original 
package move along. Have you contacted the authors of GNU Zebra, 
and/or the GNU project, to see if they would like some 
contributors?


Yes we did. We were in contact with RMS and the FSF about this even 
before the fork - which was quite a while ago. The original GNU 
project is mostly dead in terms of community and development, 
relative to Quagga. Unfortunately, they were not willing to hand the 
project on.


As per Karl, things just are as they are in this regard.

I'll try address your issues soon. I will probably submit a tarfile 
without the auto-generated bits next time (maintainer clean kind of 
thing).


regards,
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[Savannah-register-public] Re: [task #10496] Submission of Quagga Routing Software

2010-09-13 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi Paul,

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org wrote:
 I'll try address your issues soon. I will probably submit a tarfile without
 the auto-generated bits next time (maintainer clean kind of thing).

We prefer that all messages be posted to the task interface at Savannah:
  http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?10496
so that they can be linked to the submission. If you do not want to
repeat yourself I may answer there and quote your message, but it
might look messy. I will address your concerns over there, OK?

Thanks,

Alex.