Re: [SC-L] SC-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 183

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Graff
Gary McGraw said: Ed Felten and I found out early on (back in 1996) that you can use the press as a lever to get companies to do the right thing. We learned this when releasing the very first Java Security hole. We found out that Sun paid much more attention once USA Today picked up the

Re: [SC-L] re-writing college books [was: Re: A banner year for software bugs | Tech News on ZDNet]

2006-11-05 Thread mikeiscool
On 10/28/06, David Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crispin Cowan wrote: For me, the enemy in the room is C++. It gives you the safety of C with the performance of SmallTalk. There is no excuse at all to be writing anything in C++ yet vastly too many applications are written in C++ anyway.

Re: [SC-L] re-writing college books - erm.. ahm...

2006-11-05 Thread Leichter, Jerry
Much as I agree with many of the sentiments expressed in this discussion, there's a certain air of unreality to it. While software has it's own set of problems, it's not the first engineered artifact with security implications in the history of the world. Bridges and buildings regularly