Re: [SC-L] market for training CISSPs how to code (Matt Parsons)

2010-03-18 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
On Mar 18, 2010, at 02:17, ljknews wrote: Scripting languages should not be used for security-sensitive programs. And your evidence for this statement is? Stephan ___ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information,

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-25 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
On Aug 25, 2009, at 02:35, Benjamin Tomhave wrote: First, security in the software development concept is at least an intermediate concept, if not advanced. Not at all. That would be like saying that correctness is also an advanced concept, because it gets in the way of coding. Security is

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-25 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
On Aug 25, 2009, at 17:35, Benjamin Tomhave wrote: You don't teach proofs - not really. The elementary and junior high curriculum generally does not contain anything about proofs I was talking about college students because that's when I was properly taught programming. That may no longer

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-25 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
On Aug 25, 2009, at 18:07, Andy Steingruebl wrote: Sarcasmreally? First graders are learning to do math proofs instead of basic addition? I'm quite surprised by this./Sarcasm Yeah, sorry. When I wrote about students I meant college students. I don't know, is that a difference between

[SC-L] CfP: MetriSec 2009

2009-03-31 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
-- Call for Papers MetriSec 2009 5th International Workshop on SECURITY MEASUREMENTS AND METRICS (Formerly the Workshop on Quality of Protection - QoP)

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist (informIT)

2009-03-19 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
On Mar 18, 2009, at 23:14, Steven M. Christey wrote: I believe this is reflected in public CVE data. Take a look at the bugs that are being reported for, say, Microsoft or major Linux vendors or most any product with a long history, and their current number 1's are not the same as

Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist (informIT)

2009-03-19 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
Hi Gary, On Mar 19, 2009, at 16:27, Gary McGraw wrote: Hi Stephan, In my view, it would be even better to study the difference in external bug emphasis (as driven by full disclosure and the CVE) and internal bug emphasis (as driven by an organization's own top N list). That is a