On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Gunnar Peterson wrote:
> Its been awhile since there was a bugs vs flaws debate, so here is a snippet
> from Jaron Lanier
> A: No, no, they're not. What's the difference between a bug and a variation
> or an imperfection? If you think about it, if you make a small
Chris Wysopal wrote:
> In certain cases like aircraft where the economic pain of failure
> is high you get DO-178B, Software Considerations in Airborne Systems and
> Equipment Certification. For that type of software you might see the
> purchase of highly reliable libraries that have also met th
ation.
-Chris
From: sc-l-boun...@securecoding.org [mailto:sc-l-boun...@securecoding.org] On
Behalf Of Andreas Saurwein Franci Gonçalves
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:49 AM
To: Secure Coding List
Subject: Re: [SC-L] Genotypes and Phenotypes (Gunnar Peterson)
2009/10/14 SC-L Reader Dave Ar
2009/10/14 SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
> Andreas Saurwein Franci Gonçalves wrote
> (rearranged into correct order):
>
> > 2009/10/13 Bobby Miller
> >>
> >> The obvious difference is "parts". In manufacturing, things are
> assembled
> >> from well-known, well-specified, tested parts. Hmmm
>
Andreas Saurwein Franci Gonçalves wrote
(rearranged into correct order):
> 2009/10/13 Bobby Miller
>>
>> The obvious difference is "parts". In manufacturing, things are assembled
>> from well-known, well-specified, tested parts. Hmmm
> Thats the idea of libraries. Well known, well specif
Thats the idea of libraries. Well known, well specified, well tested parts.
Well, whatever.
2009/10/13 Bobby Miller
> The obvious difference is "parts". In manufacturing, things are assembled
> from well-known, well-specified, tested parts. Hmmm
>
>
>> ... If you look at other things
>> th
The obvious difference is "parts". In manufacturing, things are assembled
from well-known, well-specified, tested parts. Hmmm
> ... If you look at other things
> that people build, like oil refineries, or commercial aircraft, we can
> deal with complexity much more effectively than we can w
Its been awhile since there was a bugs vs flaws debate, so here is a
snippet from Jaron Lanier
Q: What's wrong with the way we create software today?
A: I think the whole way we write and think about software is wrong.
If you look at how things work right now, it's strange -- nobody --
a
