Re: [SC-L] seeking hard numbers of bug fixes...

2010-02-23 Thread Jon McClintock
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:45:02AM -0500, Jeremy Epstein wrote: > Take a look at Mary Ann Davidson's keynote at ACSAC in Dec 2009. > http://www.acsac.org/2009/program/keynotes/davidson.pdf This provides a pretty good examination of the costs of patching commercial software. Has anyone done a simi

Re: [SC-L] seeking hard numbers of bug fixes...

2010-02-23 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
Ah, excellent - very helpful! It appears that Laurie Williams at NCSU has inherited John Musa's Software Reliability Engineering legacy, and is still active in the field, and has a number of relevant security articles/papers listed under Publications. http://collaboration.csc.ncsu.edu/laurie/ On

Re: [SC-L] seeking hard numbers of bug fixes...

2010-02-23 Thread Wall, Kevin
Benjamin Tomhave wrote: > ... we're looking for hard research or > numbers that covers the cost to catch bugs in code pre-launch and > post-launch. The notion being that the organization saves itself money > if it does a reasonable amount of QA (and security testing) > up front vs trying to chase t

Re: [SC-L] seeking hard numbers of bug fixes...

2010-02-23 Thread Jeremy Epstein
Take a look at Mary Ann Davidson's keynote at ACSAC in Dec 2009. http://www.acsac.org/2009/program/keynotes/davidson.pdf On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Benjamin Tomhave wrote: > Howdy, > > This request is a bit time critical as it's supporting a colleague's > upsell up the food chain tomorrow..

[SC-L] seeking hard numbers of bug fixes...

2010-02-22 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
Howdy, This request is a bit time critical as it's supporting a colleague's upsell up the food chain tomorrow... we're looking for hard research or numbers that covers the cost to catch bugs in code pre-launch and post-launch. The notion being that the organization saves itself money if it does a