Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Eng
-Original Message- From: Jim Manico [mailto:jim.man...@owasp.org] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:34 PM To: Chris Eng Cc: Chris Wysopal; Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools Hello Chris, Thanks for replying! I think the reaction

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Prasad N Shenoy
Very well said Chris. Can you explain what you mean by . bias-alertI think SaaS based software is more easily consumed and this isn't any different for software security/bias-alert Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Chris Wysopal cwyso...@veracode.com wrote: . bias-alertI think

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Steven M. Christey
Jim, Maybe you would have had more success if you explicitly said in the cloud ;-) - Steve On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Jim Manico wrote: Chris, I've tried to leverage Veracode in recent engagements. Here is how the conversation went: Jim: Boss, can I upload all of your code to this cool SaaS

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Ben Laurie
On 3 February 2011 16:02, Jim Manico jim.man...@owasp.org wrote: Chris, I've tried to leverage Veracode in recent engagements. Here is how the conversation went: Jim: Boss, can I upload all of your code to this cool SaaS service for analysis? Client: Uh no, and next time you ask, I'm

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Chris Wysopal
: Jim Manico [mailto:jim.man...@owasp.org] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:02 PM To: Chris Wysopal Cc: Gary McGraw; Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools Chris, I've tried to leverage Veracode in recent engagements. Here is how

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Chris Wysopal
” benefits kick in. -Chris From: Prasad N Shenoy [mailto:prasad.she...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:02 PM To: Chris Wysopal Cc: Gary McGraw; Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools Very well said Chris. Can you explain what you mean

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Jeremiah Grossman
Hi Gary, No offense taken. :) Securing Web software is a plenty big enough challenge for me. 270+ million websites accessible to 2 billion people. And let's not even go into the hundreds of thousands of mobile apps, which are basically all mini webapps. After I'm done solving that problem I'll

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Prasad N Shenoy
the problem). Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. J -Chris From: Ben Laurie [mailto:b...@google.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:34 AM To: Jim Manico Cc: Chris Wysopal; Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools On 3

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Arian J. Evans
, February 04, 2011 11:34 AM To: Jim Manico Cc: Chris Wysopal; Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools On 3 February 2011 16:02, Jim Manico jim.man...@owasp.org wrote: Chris, I've tried to leverage Veracode in recent engagements. Here is how

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-04 Thread Jim Manico
Hello Chris, Thanks for replying! I think the reaction from my boss was not so much knee-jerk, but a reasonable concern. The risk of persisting intellectual property on a cloud service is real. And that risk differs depending on your business (as well as many other factors). I'm eager to see

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-03 Thread Jim Manico
Hey Gary, Nice article. A brief note, Ounce is dead. The product was renamed IBM Rational AppScan Source Edition after IBM's acquisition of Ounce. Small matter but for what it's worth, Jim hi sc-l, John Steven and I recently collaborated on an article for informIT. The article is called

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-03 Thread John Steven
All, I followed this article up with a blog entry, more targeted at adopting organizations. I hope you find it useful: http://www.cigital.com/justiceleague/2011/02/02/if-its-so-hard-why-bother/ John Steven Senior Director; Advanced Technology Consulting Desk: 703.404.9293 x1204 Cell:

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-03 Thread Jim Manico
Chris, I've tried to leverage Veracode in recent engagements. Here is how the conversation went: Jim: Boss, can I upload all of your code to this cool SaaS service for analysis? Client: Uh no, and next time you ask, I'm having you committed. I'm sure you have faced these objections before.

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: comparing static analysis tools

2011-02-03 Thread Arian J. Evans
Great article, Gary. Many of your comments about static technology challenges I have seen and verified first-hand, including multi-million dollar cost overruns. After some great dialogue with John Stevens, I suspect we have had similar experiences. I was just about to write a similar article at a