Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread Andy Steingruebl
On Nov 29, 2007 6:07 PM, Blue Boar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Steingruebl wrote: > > I like contractual approaches to this problem myself. People buying > > large quantities of software (large enterprises, governments) should > > get contracts with vendors that specify money-back for each p

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread Blue Boar
Andy Steingruebl wrote: > I like contractual approaches to this problem myself. People buying > large quantities of software (large enterprises, governments) should > get contracts with vendors that specify money-back for each patch they > have to apply where the root cause is of a given type. Fo

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread der Mouse
> Just as a traditional manufacturer would pay less tax by > becoming "greener," the software manufacturer would pay less > tax for producing "cleaner" code, [...] > One could, I suppose, give rebates based on actual field experience: > Look at the number of security problems rep

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread Andy Steingruebl
On Nov 29, 2007 2:47 PM, Kenneth Van Wyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The article quotes David Rice, who has a book out called > "Geekconomics: The Real Cost of Insecure Software". In it, he tried > to quantify how much insecure software costs the public and, more > controversially, proposes a "

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and

2007-11-29 Thread robert
I think many companies are working on making their code more secure however without some sort of penality to the business the others aren't going to invest in security. This in particular is why I like what PCI has done (as an example) enforcing 'some' bare requirements/penalties for not doing

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| FYI, there's a provocative article over on Dark Reading today. | http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=140184 | | The article quotes David Rice, who has a book out called | "Geekconomics: The Real Cost of Insecure Software". In it, he tried | to quantify how much insecure software costs

[SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-29 Thread Kenneth Van Wyk
FYI, there's a provocative article over on Dark Reading today. http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=140184 The article quotes David Rice, who has a book out called "Geekconomics: The Real Cost of Insecure Software". In it, he tried to quantify how much insecure software costs the